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    Quote Originally Posted by BBeerme View Post
    Like Dad said, the new IT guys don't care. For them to fix the problem, they would have to actually do something. Wonder how they would feel if their HVAC system went down, and we treated them the way they are treating us?
    Hos 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you may be no priest to me. Because you have forgotten your God’s law, I will also forget your children.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dad View Post
    This past week we were notified by corp IT they had to send the issue to another department higher up in the digital chain.

    So, we are still waiting.

    That sounds like "Business as Usual" with the Government.


    Howz about starting a Petition, herein the Group, for the "New IT" to "Please get their Kaka together over this matter", in so many "Politically Correct words", & then either sending that petition directly to Penton Corporate, or pointing out to Penton Corporate that it exists herein the Forum?
    Hos 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you may be no priest to me. Because you have forgotten your God’s law, I will also forget your children.


    "You've got to Stand for Something or You'll fall for anything" (A. Tippin)


    We are on a "Man-made Highway to Hell", Our so called "Leaders", Political & Religious, are encouraging The Mushroom like Sheeple to go faster.

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    You get what you pay for.

    Are you advocating we begin paying a monthly fee?

    I'd prefer to deal with the hassle of ignoring the trolls like MM than paying a fee.


    Quote Originally Posted by DavidDeBord View Post

    That sounds like "Business as Usual" with the Government.


    Howz about starting a Petition, herein the Group, for the "New IT" to "Please get their Kaka together over this matter", in so many "Politically Correct words", & then either sending that petition directly to Penton Corporate, or pointing out to Penton Corporate that it exists herein the Forum?
    If you were a real tech, you'd solder a relay on that board and call it good to go.

    I do a triple evac with nitro to remove non condensables.

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    Some people tend to be lazy even if it is there job, I am sure that they can do something about it but they don't give damn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBeerme View Post
    You get what you pay for.

    Are you advocating we begin paying a monthly fee?

    I'd prefer to deal with the hassle of ignoring the trolls like MM than paying a fee.
    No Sir, .... I'm "Advocating" that if the new "IT" people are "dragging their feet" on properly Maintaining HVACtalk, ... Then the Corporate Heads at Penton, just "might" get involved if a Petition was sent to them that had many Contractors that wanted HVACtalk maintained in the fashion that it was before all of this trouble.
    Hos 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you may be no priest to me. Because you have forgotten your God’s law, I will also forget your children.


    "You've got to Stand for Something or You'll fall for anything" (A. Tippin)


    We are on a "Man-made Highway to Hell", Our so called "Leaders", Political & Religious, are encouraging The Mushroom like Sheeple to go faster.

    (AC-DC Lyrics)

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    Quote Originally Posted by joyknights View Post
    Some people tend to be lazy even if it is there job, I am sure that they can do something about it but they don't give damn.


    kinda like Politicians Eh Joy?
    Hos 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you may be no priest to me. Because you have forgotten your God’s law, I will also forget your children.


    "You've got to Stand for Something or You'll fall for anything" (A. Tippin)


    We are on a "Man-made Highway to Hell", Our so called "Leaders", Political & Religious, are encouraging The Mushroom like Sheeple to go faster.

    (AC-DC Lyrics)

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    I was thinking there was a problem with the "like" button the other day. Thankfully before it could consume me ATT froze my email for some unknown reason. Of course the email they sent that said they did so never made it to the only email I really use!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidDeBord View Post

    That sounds like "Business as Usual" with the Government.


    Howz about starting a Petition, herein the Group, for the "New IT" to "Please get their Kaka together over this matter", in so many "Politically Correct words", & then either sending that petition directly to Penton Corporate, or pointing out to Penton Corporate that it exists herein the Forum?
    Gotta understand here, Penton doesnt CARE about the forum, no more than they care about any other forum they have, like the farming one, for example. They care about how many ads they can push out through the forums and their other advertising means, such as the Contractor Magazine, Farm Progress, etc. Penton is a data mining, marketing, and advertising agency, not a forum/collaboration agency. "Likes" do not make them money.

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    Upper management tells me that it takes way too long to get things done via their new IT and it's the same way for everyone. I can only assume it is because they are so large with a limited IT staff.

    However, we are lucky enough to have solid support within Penton/Informa owners and management and they do care.

    If there were any discontent in management towards us I would know about it so lets not spread unwanted rumors.

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    It's not a rumor. It's fact. From Wiki:

    Penton was an information services and marketing company.[2] The company's three largest revenue streams came from events, digital and marketing services.[3] Although Penton had a long history (see below) as a trade publisher, in 2015 it reported that 35 percent of its EBITDA derived from digital products, 54 percent from events, and 11 percent from print.[4] The main industry segments served by Penton include agriculture, transportation, natural products/food, infrastructure, and design and manufacturing.
    The company was descended from Penton Publishing, founded by John Penton in Cleveland in 1904 to bring together production of several trade magazine titles, including Foundry, which he had created in Detroit in 1892.[5] However, after the Penton/Prism merger, the company is now headquartered in New York City,[6] although it continues to maintain offices in Cleveland and other U.S. cities, with an employee base of approximately 1,350 people.[7]
    Due to reduced advertising sales as customers shifted to digital media from print, Penton went through "pre-packaged" bankruptcy reorganization in 2010.[8][9]
    On September 15, 2016 it was announced that Penton was to be bought by UK based company Informa for $1.56 billion.[10] The sale closed on November 2, 2016. Penton was integrated into Informa Business Intelligence in 2017.
    Also from Wiki:

    Informa plc is a multinational events and publishing company with its head office and registered office in London.[4][5] It has offices in 43 countries and around 6,500 employees. It owns numerous brands including CRC Press, Datamonitor, Fan Expo, Institute for International Research, Lloyd's List (London Press Lloyd), Penton, Routledge, Taylor & Francis, and UBM.
    Both companies do the same thing - just as I stated. While it's unfortunate that you're saddled with poor IT people, I can assure you it's not "the same for everyone". Maybe it's "the same" for all of the Informa-based companies.

    Discontent is not what I said. The forum itself is not the primary function of the goals of P/I. Apathy towards the secondary or tertiary functions on the site does hamper the primary income sources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HVAC_Marc View Post
    Gotta understand here, Penton doesnt CARE about the forum, no more than they care about any other forum they have, like the farming one, for example. They care about how many ads they can push out through the forums and their other advertising means, such as the Contractor Magazine, Farm Progress, etc. Penton is a data mining, marketing, and advertising agency, not a forum/collaboration agency. "Likes" do not make them money.


    Good Point Marc.

    Hey! Do Ya know anyone that has a Shiny Unused Ladder fer Sale?
    Hos 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you may be no priest to me. Because you have forgotten your God’s law, I will also forget your children.


    "You've got to Stand for Something or You'll fall for anything" (A. Tippin)


    We are on a "Man-made Highway to Hell", Our so called "Leaders", Political & Religious, are encouraging The Mushroom like Sheeple to go faster.

    (AC-DC Lyrics)

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