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    not sure of the cost for EIGR-V, but I think I read it can do 15 site to site, not too bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BetterDuck View Post
    And if they essentially go out of business or something similar then what?
    All these cloud VPN solutions are a $hit show.

    Tosi and their marketing BS gets me fired up a bit. No cloud services...except the connection facilitating part they don't want to talk about. They go under, decide to stop supporting that server, bought out, etc, your hardware investment could be garbage instantly. I have several issues with their slick sales BS that is skin deep at best...man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxBurn View Post
    Thing is once you are committed to managing OpenVPN with CLI you don't need a dedicated box or VM for it
    Kinda my thoughts. If your really going down the OpenVPN path for all your needs, which it can likely meet...you will learn the CLI at some point or look elsewhere. Be it some other GUI wrapper or whatever that each have their own limits before your CLI again.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaxBurn View Post
    Yes the ER8 certainly do with a price to match
    Its a one time cost and its going to take a lot to outgrow. Rock solid, constantly updated, low power and all the networking options one could ask for. Much of which is done with ASIC level performance that would be hard to match with general computing hardware.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amigo View Post
    not sure of the cost for EIGR-V, but I think I read it can do 15 site to site, not too bad.
    It prob more than capable of that for the minor traffic BMS requires. That said, the hardware is cheap but you need to invest in learning it which is mainly CLI for this. Its a one time cost though, much of which is just OpenVPN config that directly translates to other products using OpenVPN. Its cheap gear and if it doesn't work out, most of what you learned directly relates to other OpenVPN based products. Learn to setup OpenVPN and your not reliant on any service that could evaporate overnight and any monthly fees associated with them.

    Want something easy, they are several options with parasitic recurring fees. MSPs are a massive targets for ransomware these days. Hope your filtering any connection they have onsite if that's your route. Wait is there a click, click GUI for that as well??
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    Quote Originally Posted by orion242 View Post
    All these cloud VPN solutions are a $hit show.

    Tosi and their marketing BS gets me fired up a bit. No cloud services...except the connection facilitating part they don't want to talk about. They go under, decide to stop supporting that server, bought out, etc, your hardware investment could be garbage instantly. I have several issues with their slick sales BS that is skin deep at best...man.
    Exactly.

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    What is your preferred VPN solution if you were to offer installing one to a customer. Has anyone implemented the OpenVPN ( I will call it a client ) in a customer building with an outbound connection only? Does that require Open VPN Access Server?

    I have deployed Edge Router Lites in a stand alone config. ( requires 1194 to be open on the fire wall) and I use TosiBox.
    Gotta have the right tool for the job!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pascone10 View Post
    What is your preferred VPN solution if you were to offer installing one to a customer.
    I wouldn't say we have settled on any one solution yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pascone10 View Post
    Has anyone implemented the OpenVPN ( I will call it a client ) in a customer building with an outbound connection only? Does that require Open VPN Access Server?
    You can setup any of the edge routers to dial out to an Openvpn server on the net, aka no port forwarding needed on the customer site. You do need to have a port open at your office to allow that inbound connection through. Really anything using Openvpn can be setup this way.

    It could be as simple as two ERXs. One on site that is setup to phone home and maintains that VPN tunnel to your office, DC, whatever that is just another ERX. You could also have the win/linux/etc OpenVPN server running on a box that receives the connection as well. Pretty much do whatever you want.

    The draw to something like Tosi is they make the management these setups easy. After dealing with them and the more questions I asked, the weaker my confidence got.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pascone10 View Post
    Has anyone implemented the OpenVPN ( I will call it a client ) in a customer building with an outbound connection only?
    That's how OpenVPN clients work, they are the ones that reach out to the passive listening server. This is not at all like a IPsec site to site VPN where both ends need to be visible to the other.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pascone10 View Post
    Does that require Open VPN Access Server?
    That's the paid product and you could use that but it isn't necessary. Everything I've done is with community edition and that's what gets embedded in all these devices.

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    Yet another option if you want a GUI based OpenVPN server solution. I haven't used it, just stumbled across it.

    https://www.softether.org/
    https://www.softether.org/3-screens/1.vpnserver
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SoftEther_VPN

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    thank you guys
    Gotta have the right tool for the job!

    Where is all the stuff MADE IN THE USA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxBurn View Post
    Yet another option if you want a GUI based OpenVPN server solution. I haven't used it, just stumbled across it.

    https://www.softether.org/
    https://www.softether.org/3-screens/1.vpnserver
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SoftEther_VPN
    Just a quick look it doesn't seem they are based on Openvpn. Maybe I'm missing something. It does seem to be an actively maintained project though.
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    OpenVPN is one of a handful of VPN protocols it supports.

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    If you are providing a firewall and they are giving you a static IP I suggest sonicwall. The sslvpn is fantastic. GUI is pretty good too and there is tons of how to videos all over.

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