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    Very impressive! We installed a few of the rheem plastic electic water heaters and a vaccum relief valve needs to be used or else the tank will implode if you drain the thing. I have replaced oil tank drains on 1/2 full residential oil tanks and put a vaccum on them to do so... never had a problem but I may reconsider next time. (Or not)

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    Quote Originally Posted by kangaroogod View Post
    Very impressive! We installed a few of the rheem plastic electic water heaters and a vaccum relief valve needs to be used or else the tank will implode if you drain the thing. I have replaced oil tank drains on 1/2 full residential oil tanks and put a vaccum on them to do so... never had a problem but I may reconsider next time. (Or not)

    'The more you know, the more you realize you don't know'
    If you were a real tech, you'd solder a relay on that board and call it good to go.

    I do a triple evac with nitro to remove non condensables.

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    submersible pump switch if it would fit in the casing, off ebay. extend the wire mount it with a rope and heavy weight then it's adjustable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HVAC_Marc View Post
    It should work.

    What I would do: seal the cap. put a vacuum pump on it. keep the vacuum on auto start/stop between 12" and 15" to begin with. you can tweak it later and add fail-safes to prevent pump water ingestion. lowering the pressure inside the well casing makes the water want to be there. you can literally have water all the way up to the top of the casing doing this.

    (dont ask how many pumps Ive broken )
    A Vacuum pump, as in HVAC/ Refrigeration Marc?

    And, ... You are pumping out the air in the Well Casing, which is causing the Water to rise?

    Interesting!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HVAC_Marc View Post
    Nope. Did this on my dad's well. the shale starts 1 foot below grade. it's 96 feet deep, 10" iron casing with an aluminum cap. It works best with a submersible pump.

    Used CPVC pipe for the vacuum. It's all siliconed together. the case to pipe connection has a few washers and a large nut on the inside of the casing on the male cpvc adapter. We eventually built a PVC accumulator that the pump connected to. At the bottom of the vertical pipe were 2 electrodes that could short if the pipe ingested water. The pump then shut off.
    Hos 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you may be no priest to me. Because you have forgotten your God’s law, I will also forget your children.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidDeBord View Post
    A Vacuum pump, as in HVAC/ Refrigeration Marc?

    And, ... You are pumping out the air in the Well Casing, which is causing the Water to rise?

    Interesting!
    It will work, but a piston pump lasts longer. There's no oil to contaminate.

    Yes, lowering pressure in the casing which makes air pressure force more water into the space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBeerme View Post
    Hmmmm . . . .

    Something doesn't seem right.

    Wouldn't there be a point where the vacuum would not be able to overcome the weight of the water?

    I'm guessing if you had a 300' well, at something like 20 gallons a minute, that vacuum pump would never see liquid water. Just vapor H20.
    That is a Factor, but, the Well is open to the Water table/ Spring, & as the Column of water is lifted up, the Spring/ Water table increases the Volume of water, .... Kinda like a boiler fill valve, ... If I'm Thinkin' Clearly (And that's Questionable Eh?).

    Even in times of Drought, Earth quake, or heavy Construction that affected the Water Table, ...this set up, should be adjustable for Depth, & should work, as long as Demand, doesn't overcome the Supply.
    Hos 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you may be no priest to me. Because you have forgotten your God’s law, I will also forget your children.


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    Mat_15:24 But he answered, “I wasn’t sent to anyone but the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by HVAC_Marc View Post
    The discussion was more about purposely creating an unusual situation. There's videos out there of train cars collapsing under vacuum.
    And Liberals!
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    Mat_15:24 But he answered, “I wasn’t sent to anyone but the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

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    Our Well is 140 ft deep, with a 6" Casing, that terminates 20' down. I installed a 1/2 Hp- Deep Well pump via 1-1/4" Heavy Duty ABS Pipe, but I forget the #s of it.

    I stopped the pump ten foot from the bottom of the bore, & have the foot valve there. The Pump also has a thermistor, of which when water passes the Pump inlet, it shuts down the power.
    I checked valved my Supply 5' ft away from the casing, in a trench with an PVC Access tube, for replacement, & I check valved the Supply piping once it penetrated my foundation. Then the piping goes up in to my Mechanical Room, & enters a whole house filter, then goes to the X-tanks.

    I've got 4 Huge expansion tanks, run in series with the piping paralleled in case of a Tank Failure (Again I forget the #s ), & a 80 Gal. Tank with a Bleeder system to get rid of a Gas found in our Shale rock, & (the Gas smells like the Additive in Nat/ Propane Gas, but it Absolutely is not Explosive Cuz' I tried many a time, & many a way to set it on fire).

    I'm planning on installing at least a 5000 gallon Fiber-glass Cistern to run parallel to the Well System.

    We're adding a Water Softener, and several Osmosis units to finish it all off.

    I'm also seeking a Siphon Pump, that could quickly be installed, for when the Power Grid Bites the dust, & Propane is no longer available for the generator.

    I'm All ears, when it comes to improving my system, &/or making my Customers better.
    Hos 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you may be no priest to me. Because you have forgotten your God’s law, I will also forget your children.


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    Mat_15:24 But he answered, “I wasn’t sent to anyone but the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

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    Like I told Ben, I'll get some pics when I get out to Dad's house next. It's so simple and crude, but it works.

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