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    We have a primary election in two days. Already got my sample ballot filled out.
    If you were a real tech, you'd solder a relay on that board and call it good to go.

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    I am convinced Trump doesn't want any trade war. The Chinese are among the toughest negotiators on earth but have softened somewhat over the years. They got favorable deals because they wouldn't hesitate to walk away if they didn't get what they wanted. At one point they had everything to gain and nothing to lose. At one time they would get up and walk out during a negotiation session if they thought things weren't going their way. Their economy is now good enough that walking away from a deal has a lot more potential consequence than in the past. That opens the door for better deals for us and Trump knows that. It will take some pressure to change the norm but I am convinced it is possible.
    You Trump haters that are always trying to claim he can't negotiate look about as intelligent as someone that says Michael Jordan was a poor ball player.

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    It makes me smile to consider that if I get caught bribing a politician while he's in office - we both go to jail. That is: if I give him money now so that he will do something for me later.

    But if he and I arrange to have my thing done now - while he's in office, and then I pay him for the favor later - after he is out of office - it's all nice and legal. <g>

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    Quote Originally Posted by BNME8EZ View Post
    You guys kill me. What X,Y,or Z did is all water under the bridge, look at what this guy has done. The key word there is "done". Once they have done it does it really matter if it was last week, last month, last year, or last decade, No. They still did it they were still wrong and we still got screwed. I could care less about any politicians tax return. Unless you are a tax professional the stuff you really need to see is either going to be omitted or hidden so well you won't find it, so what difference does it make. Now going from less than $500k to over $40 mil while in office 8 years making $400k interests me cause those numbers don't add up. Where did all that money come from. We either got screwed out of that directly or through favors to someone so it was indirect, but we still got screwed. You show me where Trumps net worth has gone up and I am on that band wagon with you. So far all the numbers I have seen are that his net worth has gone down from 4.?billion to 3.? billion.

    Bottom line ; if your not gonna complain about the screwin from the left don't complain about the screwin from the right.
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    trade spat - sources
    Beijing has put U.S. energy products, including crude oil and refined products, on lists of goods that it will hit with import taxes in retaliation for similar moves by Washington.REUTERS | June 21, 2018, 17:15 IST
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    China to reduce U.S. oil imports post-Sept amid trade spat - sources By Florence Tan and Chen Aizhu

    SINGAPORE/BEIJING:

    "Chinese oil buyers will keep taking crude from the United States through September, but plan to reduce future purchases to avoid a likely import tariff amid a trade spat between the world's two largest economies, multiple industry sources said.

    Beijing has put U.S. energy products, including crude oil and refined products, on lists of goods that it will hit with import taxes in retaliation for similar moves by Washington."


    https://energy.economictimes.indiati...urces/64682918
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    Monday, 25 June 2018
    Global Trade Order on Verge of Collapse?
    Written by Christian Gomez

    Global Trade Order on Verge of Collapse?

    "Reaction to President Trump’s pending tariffs on steel and aluminum from China and the E.U., as well as his tough demands on both Canada and Mexico in the ongoing NAFTA renegotiations, has been that of panic among globalists and their establishment media pundits. Many in the international community are clamoring that the end of their beloved Bretton Woods system of globally managed commerce and overlapping regional governance-building “trade” schemes is at hand.

    On Friday, Trump warned about possible new sanctions on cars from the European Union via Twitter:

    Based on the Tariffs and Trade Barriers long placed on the U.S. & its great companies and workers by the European Union, if these Tariffs and Barriers are not soon broken down and removed, we will be placing a 20% Tariff on all of their cars coming into the U.S. Build them here!"



    https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnew...ge-of-collapse
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    Mat_15:24 But he answered, “I wasn’t sent to anyone but the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

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    "Lending Tree, a loan comparison website, warns that consumer debt on non-essentials like credit cards, and personal, vehicle and student loans, is likely to reach 4 trillion dollars by the end of the year. That’s a startling 26 percent of the nation’s income – a figure that has increased from 22 percent since 2010. (Related: Investment expert warns that the economy is ‘ten times worse’ than in 2008 and will inevitably implode.)"

    http://www.investmentwatchblog.com/w...etting-bigger/
    Hos 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you may be no priest to me. Because you have forgotten your God’s law, I will also forget your children.


    "You've got to Stand for Something or You'll fall for anything" (A. Tippin)


    Mat_15:24 But he answered, “I wasn’t sent to anyone but the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

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    Heard about this on the radio today:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/25/b...u-tariffs.html

    Harley Davidson to move some manufacturing off shore due to tariffs. It was said that new tariffs would add $2,000 to the price of a Harley. So Harley said, screw you. America will lose a bunch of jobs.

    The trade war has begun. It really is a war now.

    Expect a recession within the next couple of years.
    If you were a real tech, you'd solder a relay on that board and call it good to go.

    I do a triple evac with nitro to remove non condensables.

    I use 56% silver on everything except steel.

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    A whole 2k? They are already over priced as it is. They couldn't just tack that into the price? Would have been better press.

    Quote Originally Posted by BBeerme View Post
    Heard about this on the radio today:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/25/b...u-tariffs.html

    Harley Davidson to move some manufacturing off shore due to tariffs. It was said that new tariffs would add $2,000 to the price of a Harley. So Harley said, screw you. America will lose a bunch of jobs.

    The trade war has begun. It really is a war now.

    Expect a recession within the next couple of years.

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    LOL

    Yeah, the UK tacked it onto the price.

    Get it?


    Quote Originally Posted by MT1 View Post
    A whole 2k? They are already over priced as it is. They couldn't just tack that into the price? Would have been better press.
    If you were a real tech, you'd solder a relay on that board and call it good to go.

    I do a triple evac with nitro to remove non condensables.

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    I find it amusingly odd that virtually every country in the world has some kind of protect-our-own tariffs, or simply subsidize their industries internally - but when America does the same thing it suddenly spells certain doom. <g>

    It does make me wonder: for whom? <g>
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    America has had tariffs in place since soon after we became a country. And before Trump became president, we already had tariffs on something like 2,600 products. It's just not something that typically makes the news.


    Quote Originally Posted by Poodle Head Mikey View Post
    I find it amusingly odd that virtually every country in the world has some kind of protect-our-own tariffs, or simply subsidize their industries internally - but when America does the same thing it suddenly spells certain doom. <g>

    It does make me wonder: for whom? <g>
    If you were a real tech, you'd solder a relay on that board and call it good to go.

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    The US is the primary dumping ground for any company who makes something. If other countries can't dump stuff here their income will drop. Kind of like the first one who blinks looses. Other countries have tarrifs on our material brought into their countries. You bet I would not like to pay more for stuff I need and want. I generally do try to buy local, buy US, buy union. The sad thing is there are not many things that are wholy US made & union made I need & want. Car parts come from all over the world. Aren't all Copeland scrolls now made in China

    With respect to Harley to their credit it is believed that about 65% of their parts are made here in the US. As I have said before maybe some of the company exec's should have thought a little harder about chasing the cheap labor & materials outside of the US. The problem I see with Harleys is the Baby Boomer market has been saturated and the Mellenials are not buying Harleys. I've seen several stories about how Harley is trying to entice sales to the younger crowd and it's just not working. Just my opinion they are still living on the Harley reputation (Bad Boy/Regagade biker). Also just my opinion they have never been as reliable the comparable Honda & Kawasaki. Harley's problem is not because of tarriffs

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    I have news for all those chicken littles who like to write the articles that are cited above:

    there is no trade war, and there will not be a trade war, because these countries need the United States a lot more than the United States needs them.

    I personally can do without having a new cell phone built in China every year. I typically get seven to eight years out of a cell phone, and I have a perfectly good flat screen TV and I can go another 10 years before I need to buy another one. My cars are 20 years old. The truck I drive is not one that I would have chosen, but my company decided to buy it from Government Motors.... so I am not worried one bit about any of this.

    China can huff and puff all they want, but right now, everyday, its worst fear is that it won't be able to find work for all those peasants coming in from the surrounding provinces into their major cities, and the Chinese leadership knows that if they don't supply these people with jobs, there will be a new Chinese Revolution and it will sweep them out of power.
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