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10-29-2023, 06:06 PM
#121
Originally Posted by
esserair
FYI Gents....Bought this meter 2 years ago and loved it right up until the clamp broke 2 months ago... Called Redfish for service support and it turns out that outside of the 1 year warranty there is absolutely no service support for this tool..
Forgot to mention in original quote but if you compare form factors between this meter and the one made by AMES and sold at Harbor Freight... Dead ringer Folks! That meter is only $90 Not the same features obviously but your getting a Harbor Freight meter platform...
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10-29-2023, 06:46 PM
#122
No service support for Redfish products
Redfish vs Ames Harbor Freight
At least at harbor freight you get what you pay for $90 bs $289
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10-30-2023, 08:37 AM
#123
I actually was involved with the building of that meter. The meter uses the same form factor (plastic) as it is built by the same contract manufacturer, but it is not the same meter. It uses a different CT and different electronics. If you look you will see that they do not have the same features. Several meters are built with the same tooling to minimize cost. Most products today like that are not serviceable. I do have a few in the cabinet that I saved for parts. If you want one shoot me an address.
JLB,
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10-30-2023, 09:50 AM
#124
Originally Posted by
jim bergmann
I actually was involved with the building of that meter. The meter uses the same form factor (plastic) as it is built by the same contract manufacturer, but it is not the same meter. It uses a different CT and different electronics. If you look you will see that they do not have the same features. Several meters are built with the same tooling to minimize cost. Most products today like that are not serviceable. I do have a few in the cabinet that I saved for parts. If you want one shoot me an address.
I basically find the meter slow but functional.
The app on the other hand is excellent!
Life is too short, Behappy!
TFMM
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10-30-2023, 10:55 PM
#125
Originally Posted by
behappy
I basically find the meter slow but functional.
The app on the other hand is excellent!
Fully agree!!!
The 510 clamp had an even worse failure rate in my experience. I think I had 3 just quit withing an 18 month period.
The Food Stamp Program, administered by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, is proud to be distributing the greatest amount of free meals and stamps EVER.
Meanwhile, the National Park Service, administered by the U.S. Department of the Interior, asks us to "Please Do Not Feed the Animals". Their stated reason for this policy "... the animals become dependent on handouts and will not learn to take care of themselves."
from an excerpt by Paul Jacob in Sun City, AZ
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10-31-2023, 04:54 AM
#126
I love my AEMC clamp meters. I have a 407 and 403. They both have worked great for many years. I’m not big fan of the Redfish or Fieldpiece clamp meters. I need meters that i don’t have second guess the readings they are giving.
The HVAC school app has a nice tool for Calculating run capacitors underload. Supco products I’ve found for the most part to be low quality and give questionable readings. They buy products/ideas from a small manufacturer and then make it less expensive buy reducing build quality…. For instance, The HVAC strap manifold gauge hanger. The magnet so much weaker as well as the strap it self being narrower. Two of the Supco HVAC Strap magnets are almost equal to what the original HVAC strap magnets pull rating is. I’m so glad i purchase a few sets before they sold out. It is able hold my set of digital ak900s with a small veto pro pac parts bag with fittings and parts that is attached to the mounting base.
I admit that I’m a tool addict! I will buy and sell tools until I find the ones that the are most accurate, durable and can give repeated measurements that do not deviate much, if at all.
Jim, Any chance the new Appion Pressure Temperature Compound Gauge, PTC900, will be integrated with measurequick?
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11-07-2023, 09:40 PM
#127
Originally Posted by
Nytefog
Supco products I’ve found for the most part to be low quality and give questionable readings. They buy products/ideas from a small manufacturer and then make it less expensive buy reducing build quality….
I will fully agree with this statement.
Company bought their umbrellas.
What a pile of !!!!
Flimsy material and structure.
Magnet won't hold umbrella in place when you fart its direction. And because it's crappy build quality, second fall off a RTU, it's broken and time for the trash can.
The Food Stamp Program, administered by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, is proud to be distributing the greatest amount of free meals and stamps EVER.
Meanwhile, the National Park Service, administered by the U.S. Department of the Interior, asks us to "Please Do Not Feed the Animals". Their stated reason for this policy "... the animals become dependent on handouts and will not learn to take care of themselves."
from an excerpt by Paul Jacob in Sun City, AZ
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11-07-2023, 10:17 PM
#128
Originally Posted by
jim bergmann
I actually was involved with the building of that meter. The meter uses the same form factor (plastic) as it is built by the same contract manufacturer, but it is not the same meter. It uses a different CT and different electronics. If you look you will see that they do not have the same features. Several meters are built with the same tooling to minimize cost. Most products today like that are not serviceable. I do have a few in the cabinet that I saved for parts. If you want one shoot me an address.
I never bought a redfish because it looked like a subpar meter. I have lots of meters, I primarily use Fluke but also have lots of fieldpiece, UEI/Klein, Amprobe and many other brands. While I’ve never held a redfish in my hands I could tell right from the start it was a harbor freight quality tool.
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11-09-2023, 04:04 PM
#129
I come from a family of electricians and I'm the black sheep that also does HVAC work. I can carry any meter I want and between us, we've tried almost all of them. I don't see the pressing need for PF and being able to calculate SEER etc. It's cool and once in a while, it's handy, but I've been able to get by without using it except for playing with meters. It's a tough business to get into, I get that, but there's plenty of good meters out there already. I like the FP SC440, one of the best meters I've ever used. Heck, my brother who is a "Fluke only man", even likes it. The Amprobe ACD-51-NAV is a great meter, the fastest I've ever used, but lacks millivolts. The FP 440 is fast and does it all, one of my top choices. For the last couple of years, I've used Klein meters. Not the run of the mill stuff, but the "better" line. The CL440, CL450, CL320 and CL445. I've got two 320's that I use daily and a 445 I use a lot. They're rugged and do it all for HVAC. I really like them and Klein has made some really good choices on their design. I use the 320's every day and have designated one as my test meter to give the roughest treatment I can give it. After two years of constant dropping, banging and generally mistreating it, it still works like new. My brother makes fun of me, because I'm the guy that takes care of his tools and yet I've tried to trash this meter, to no avail. Little things make a difference in meters, viewing angles, backlighting, functions, etc, not the gimicky features of bluetooth, (neat but not needed), PF and the ability to calculate SEER etc. Most people I work for want heat and cool without a lot of garbage. They wouldn't understand a lot of it anyway, that's why they hire me. In the last year, I think one woman asked me about the SEER rating of an anticipated install. All ther others, after I explained their options, just said "we trust you to know what we need", and that's how it goes. Even my commercial customers, normally, just want it fixed or replaced, whichever I see fit.
I've handled and tried an IDVM meter.....I don't have one and no intention of getting one. I do believe it is a totally different meter from the HF meter. It's a nice effort. Milwaukee made a nice effort also, but their meters are not mainstream either. It doesn't help that the company that took them on is not known for top notch tools, so it suffers from their reputation also.
I love new tools and technology. I use digital probes and manifolds, bluetooth stuff for that use is not a gimmick and makes the job much easier, but there just are some things that aren't all that revolutionary.
My opinion is if you want a good HVAC meter, then look at the Amprobe above, the FP, the Kleins, and you'll never be in a situation where you need more. That's my take, and it's just one opinion.