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    Quote Originally Posted by exreo View Post
    Yep, perfect example of that FCC authority if you don't mind...We sold a popular marine radio called the Icom M710. It was for use on marine frequencies so people could make long distance radio links back home or where ever. Well, these guys that put this radio and tuner on their boat also wanted to use it for doing ham radio communictions. But, Icom had a "thing" about the M710 not being used for ham radio because supposedly it was a violation of FCC rules. Man, we went round and round about this. Customers would bring their M710s in for us "open them up" for use on ham frequencies. We had a special program that we ran for this and it also programmed in many ham frequencies into the radio. As a technician, I was caught in the middle. One supervisor would approve of the radios being "opened up", and another feared the FCC and would refuse. I usually programmed the radio for ham use and especially since my boss didn't have a problem with it. But the question is why shouldn't the customer be able to use his marine HF radio for doing ham communications as well? The radio certainly met all the requirements (frequency stability and accuracy, % modulation, etc.) of ham radios and more.
    If I had to guess, it would be that the marine radio put out too much power. Did it have a linear amp?
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    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    If I had to guess, it would be that the marine radio put out too much power. Did it have a linear amp?
    No, it is a 150W radio,
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    Then it's a mystery...
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    I think if you own it .... it's yours to do what you want with it.... although you may void a warranty.

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    I think the marketplace is the better place to determine who repairs what...

    Laws that favor one group at the expense of another group... are not really a good idea.

    And yes... if a company wants to void the warranty... they can...
    AND... they can suffer lost sales when the word gets out they do this.

    Again... the market place is the BEST way to regulate!!!
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    The fact that some of us want to repair vrs replace in this throw away world we live in i am big on fix it my self IF i can.
    OR i can pay someone to do it if i cant

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    Its not all about diy i would like to have acrss to documents from brands that im not factory authorised... Yes it would be good to let the market decide. But no one thinks ìts horrible for. Government to apply anti monopoly laws. This to me is the same. A monopoky on informatio and right to repair. A good company should make money on their product. Not by designing in blocks and hoarding information and controlling everything

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    A good company should make money on their product. Not by designing in blocks and hoarding information and controlling everything
    I don't necessarily disagree. I understand that some companies believe they are preserving their name, reputation and protecting their liability. Doesn't mean I agree. I also think I may have a slightly different thought of what should be available Free to the public (non-authorized Vendors). But Proprietary Information and Patents have their place in our world. It allows the person or company who designs the new widget to recover the cost of research, designing, building and marketing the first edition of something. I have read stories that some of the research and developmentnt cost just to get a working version (prototype) can cost millions of dollars. So would it be fair if you spent a large portion of your time and money to create something that has lots of potential to generate income for you or your business, to just give it away free to someone because they want it?.

    For the stuff out of patent I think the information such as Installation, Maintenances, Troubleshooting and parts lists should be free to those who ask for them. But design and fabrication information, drawings. That is the person or company who made it their information or property and they can give it or sell it to whomever they want. Anyone can buy the widget and reverse engineer it at their own time and cost.

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    You say it well answerman. I agree the douments an procedures to build a product can and should belong to. A company. I think this just applies to information to perform a repair.

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