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    Chinese Motors

    Had to replace a Garland convection oven 2 speed blower motor. New one came in matched up fine except:

    Wires were all different color than original. Also the wire schematic on the new one was slightly confusing as it looked like they wanted the low and high speed wires tied together! ????. Added insult to injury was the fact the wires in the stove harness were faded and discolored. I didn't want to burn up a $1400 motor! Called Kitchen Kare and surprisingly I got through pretty quick and he sent me the wiring diagram and told me to ignore the label on the motor as far as the connections went.

    I was able to identify the harness wires by taking the stove access panel off and finding the colors and wire #'s inside. After confirming how the old motor was wired I wired in the new one. It worked but low was high and high was low. I confirmed I wired it correctly and the wires at the speed switch hadn't been tampered with by all the fuzz that was built up on the terminals. I switched the wires on the motor so it ran correctly. All I can think off is that when they wired the motor the connected the wires to the wrong winding.
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    There's TREACHERY AFOOT!!!

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    I bet if you were to open that new motor up, and compare it to the old, you would find a thinner winding...other than the fact that chi-com copper is inferior, because it is mixed with alloys.
    “Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”

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    More hi-jinx. After a few heat / cool cycles, the set screws that hold the blower wheel came loose. Right during lunch.
    There's TREACHERY AFOOT!!!

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    MCR,

    Was the "New Motor" also an Emerson?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidDeBord View Post
    MCR,

    Was the "New Motor" also an Emerson?
    No I for get the name on it. All I remember was Made in China. It came from a big time kitchen parts wholesaler. All complete with mounting plate and blower wheel. They wanted it replaced because it was noisy.

    Now today the oven below it failed. Looks like the start winding is bad in this one. We are going away for a weeks boiler training and no way we can get a new motor before we leave. We are going to have to put the noisy motor in the 2nd oven to get them by.
    There's TREACHERY AFOOT!!!

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    Noisy, new.... that's a feature right? ^@%!$#

    I paid $695 for a new pool pump once. Only to have it arrive and sound like a craphouse of marbles were in the bearings. Seriously, the 40 year old pump I had before it was quieter. (and I still have that pump, too).

    "Quality" - it's job "none".

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    Quote Originally Posted by HVAC_Marc View Post
    Noisy, new.... that's a feature right? ^@%!$#

    I paid $695 for a new pool pump once. Only to have it arrive and sound like a craphouse of marbles were in the bearings. Seriously, the 40 year old pump I had before it was quieter. (and I still have that pump, too).

    "Quality" - it's job "none".
    Do You need help getting in & out of your Pool Marc? I was wondering if you use one of those "Lifts" that the Hospitals/ Nursing homes use to get people in & outa bed were what you used.

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    Put the noisy motor in to replace the one with a bad start winding. They said the new motor made a noise today. found one of the set screws that I tightened 2 times loosened up again! Put red Loctite on it this time!

    I'm wiring the motor in and my helper hears the luncl ladies talking about a reach in being 48deg. He checks it out and it's all frosted up and it's almost quitting time. We have to take the ceiling down to get a look at it. Yup 0 suction pressure. They weren't even going to say anything to us. Just let it run all night !
    There's TREACHERY AFOOT!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidDeBord View Post
    Do You need help getting in & out of your Pool Marc? I was wondering if you use one of those "Lifts" that the Hospitals/ Nursing homes use to get people in & outa bed were what you used.
    I dont have a pool. It wasnt even for a pool. It was for a koi pond setup.

    I wouldnt mind one of those walk thru bathtubs filled with naked young nubiles...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HVAC_Marc View Post
    I dont have a pool. It wasnt even for a pool. It was for a koi pond setup.

    I wouldnt mind one of those walk thru bathtubs filled with naked young nubiles...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidDeBord View Post
    Now and then, .... I've inquired of My Better 3/4s of the possibility of Our embracing the Muslim, or Mormon Faith.

    As she reaches for her iron clad rolling pin, she asks me "Why do you want to do that "A**-***E?", & I begin to lay out the Great Benefits of having many Young & Ravishing Nubiles that could Service my needs.

    I can't remember to much after that, due to her artful application of "Said" rolling pin upon my forehead.

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    As far as these "Chinese Motors" & other parts, ..... Have Ya'll considered the fallout that could result from these Tariffs, & a possible Trade War?

    After all, .... How many American Factories are there, that actually Manufacture HVAC/ Refrigeration/ Electrical, & Kitchen materials?

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