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    How to Stop the Senseless Shootings

    Greetings Ya'll,

    Do You want the Senseless, Demonic, & Unjustified Shootings in Our Homes, on Our Streets, in Our Schools, At Our Businesses, ... matter of fact, practically everywhere in America to Stop????????

    After all, .... We as a Nation, weren't always like this.

    Back in the 1960s, when I was a Student at the Lakota School District, Butler County, Ohio, ..... We had Gun Clubs, & Rocket Clubs.

    It was Not Abnormal, nor did it cause Panic, or a "Lock Down" to arrive at School, with a Rifle, or Pistol, for "Show & Tell", at the Gun Club.

    It was Not Abnormal, nor did it cause Panic, or a "Lock Down" to arrive at School with a Rifle &/or a Shotgun mounted in the gun rack, hanging at the back window, of a pick up truck, in the Student Parking lot.

    We didn't have children, that were Heavily Medicated due to some "Alleged Mental Illness", that in the later Years has made HUGE Profits for Big Pharma. No Sir.
    Back then, when a Student got out of control, by exhibiting "Unacceptable Behavior", .... That unfortunate Student got his/her Ass busted with a paddle, either by the Teacher, or by the Principle, & many a time, got it busted again, by their parents at home.

    This method of giving an "Attitude Adjustment", in the majority of cases worked Miracles, that Modern Medicine has yet to match.

    The Majority of those who received an "Attitude Adjustment", quickly realized the "Error of their Foolish Ways", & conformed to the mIndset of why they were in School, ...... Learning the Three Rs, & how to become a Productive, Knowledgeable American Citizen, that would have the background of knowledge that would help them obtain The American Dream.

    But, ... the removal of "Attitude Adjustments", isn't what has brought America to it's widespread Moral & Physical Failure as a Nation.No Sir!

    What has caused the Vast Majority of America's Problems, including Students killing Students, & all of the other many Unjustified Killings is, ......

    We have Kicked GOD Almighty out of Our Schools, Businesses, Governments (Local & Federal), Our Media, & Our Homes, & that started with the Federal Removal of Prayer from Our Public Schooling System, back in the 1960s.

    And for those who start screaming "Separation of Church & State!", .....Well, "in a nutshell", ... You either are suffering from Revisionist Common Core Knowledge, or You are Severely Constipated so badly that a Hazmat unit needs to care for you, ... Or Both.

    Many, many, many, Historical Documents, as well as Monuments, & Artifacts, Easily Prove, that at least from the early 1960s, clear back to when America was the New Home of the Pilgrims, ... The Almighty LORD GOD of Israel, was Absolutely, a very important part of America.
    The Way of The Almighty LORD GOD, was Freely Spoken of, Referred to, & Taught in Our Public Schools, with His Ten Commandments Covenant posted on the wall , at the front, of many a Classroom.

    That Way of Life, that Virtuous Mindset,was a "Guidepost" as to how an American should live, ... It was Far from Perfect, But Dammit, .. It Made America GREAT!!!

    America, at One Time, was the Most Blessed, Most Powerful, Most Moral, "Juggernaut" of Nations, upon this Planet, but now, ....... And this Tears at My Heart,... We have become a Pus covered, Rotting at the Core, Impotent, Falling apart, Shell of what We used to be. In Fact, .... We are so Bad off, that "Change You Can Believe In!", & "Make America Great Again!", caused multiple Millions to Foolishly Vote for their "Political Messiah". SMH

    So, .... Do You Truly Want To Stop the Senseless,Satanically Inspired Shootings?

    Then instead of accepting the endless laws of Man, that in all truth, haven't really stopped the Evil in Man's Hearts & Minds, .... Demand from our Treasonous & GODLESS , so called "Leaders", that they Immediately Return America to what it Once Was.

    IF, ... This doesn't Quickly Happen, in My Belief,.... America in an Ever Intensifying Fashion , is going to Reap the Curses of Deuteronomy 28:, (The Birth Pains), as well as Suffer the Last Days Prophecies.

    Mat 22:34 But the Pharisees, when they heard that he had silenced the Sadducees, gathered themselves together.
    Mat 22:35 One of them, a lawyer, asked him a question, testing him.
    Mat 22:36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the law?”
    Mat 22:37 Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’
    Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.
    Mat 22:39 A second likewise is this, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’
    Mat 22:40 The whole law and the prophets depend on these two commandments.”

    And yet, .....I'm certain, that the Mushroom like Sheeple of America, in a very Orwellian Fashion, will not Seek what worked in Our Past.

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    Wont happen David...too many commies here dug in like ticks. We now have an entire generation of them soon to be in all 3 branches of government...4 if you include the media.
    The only non lethal way I see around it, is to divide the country. One side consisting of constitutional conservatism, the other progressive communism.
    In which case, the progressive commies will destroy themselves by attrition, then conservative folks will have the country back and be rid of the far left disease. Should only take a generation or two.
    “Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”

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    Cool, I Don't think that We've got "a Generation" of time left.

    In My Belief, it's no longer "The Writing on the Wall". ..... It's more like entire walls of graffiti, down in th' hood.

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    The problem is those that remember the Attitude adjustment only remember the pain, more so humiliation than the final outcome so there is a disconnect. They cannot see that while positive reinforcement is a great tool it just does not produce the same results as properly applied negative reinforcement.

    I remember the last time I spanked my daughter. After I swatted her bottom a couple of times she turned to me and said "that didn't hurt". I said "did you get the message". She said yes. I said "then it didn't have to hurt". She was like 3-4 years old and I never had to spank her again. I threatened my son with physical punishment when he was a teen. He said i couldn't hit him or he would call the police for child abuse. i told him you know where the phone is and by the time the police get here you will know what child abuse really is. He decided the phone was not his friend and decided to listen.

    The point is sometimes you have to feel that negative affect to help you figure out that something is not good for you. Kinda like an addict has to hit bottom before they will really accept help.

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    Along these same lines, the wussification of our children is becoming one of the roots of our problem. That 'everyone gets a trophy' philosophy is ruining our youth. By the time they get to a university, they need a safe room with soap bubbles and teddy bears.

    You see, it's the adversity we deal with when young that helps us cope when we're older. If you don't learn to deal with loss and failure as a child, well, you get what we got today. People who look like adults, but mentally, they are still children.


    Quote Originally Posted by BNME8EZ View Post
    The problem is those that remember the Attitude adjustment only remember the pain, more so humiliation than the final outcome so there is a disconnect. They cannot see that while positive reinforcement is a great tool it just does not produce the same results as properly applied negative reinforcement.

    I remember the last time I spanked my daughter. After I swatted her bottom a couple of times she turned to me and said "that didn't hurt". I said "did you get the message". She said yes. I said "then it didn't have to hurt". She was like 3-4 years old and I never had to spank her again. I threatened my son with physical punishment when he was a teen. He said i couldn't hit him or he would call the police for child abuse. i told him you know where the phone is and by the time the police get here you will know what child abuse really is. He decided the phone was not his friend and decided to listen.

    The point is sometimes you have to feel that negative affect to help you figure out that something is not good for you. Kinda like an addict has to hit bottom before they will really accept help.
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    The problem has many tentacles....you have the wussification of American youth, you have marxism taught in the universities, you have the dumbing down of youth i.e.: chicago math, history, and civics. You have the sloth of America, you have the corporate elites and bankers that dictate foreign policy from clubs like The Council on Foreign Relations and The Trilateral Commission. Then you have the politicization/corruption of our justice system, and of course you have the leftist commie propaganda news outlets spewing lies 24/7.

    Corporal punishment may be a start, but things are so phukered from top to bottom that it would seem insurmountable.
    “Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”

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    We have the best chance now with President Trump that we have had in a long time to reverse the dumbing down of America. The liberals hate Trump like the devil hates God. Liberalism is a cancer on society that I'm afraid is terminal. Liberalism has progressed to the extreme now that they are attempting to overthrow the President. That should appall the average liberal but the average liberal supports every underhanded cheap trick against Trump. If the libs didn't think they could overthrow the government they wouldn't try. They are attacking Trump with lies so blatant that a third grader should see through them. Look at how many on this site are so shallow or maybe dishonest that they back the attacks to remove Trump. Obama did many things that he could have been removed from office for doing but went unchallenged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidDeBord View Post
    Greetings Ya'll,

    Do You want the Senseless, Demonic, & Unjustified Shootings in Our Homes, on Our Streets, in Our Schools, At Our Businesses, ... matter of fact, practically everywhere in America to Stop????????

    After all, .... We as a Nation, weren't always like this.

    Back in the 1960s, when I was a Student at the Lakota School District, Butler County, Ohio, ..... We had Gun Clubs, & Rocket Clubs.

    It was Not Abnormal, nor did it cause Panic, or a "Lock Down" to arrive at School, with a Rifle, or Pistol, for "Show & Tell", at the Gun Club.

    It was Not Abnormal, nor did it cause Panic, or a "Lock Down" to arrive at School with a Rifle &/or a Shotgun mounted in the gun rack, hanging at the back window, of a pick up truck, in the Student Parking lot.

    We didn't have children, that were Heavily Medicated due to some "Alleged Mental Illness", that in the later Years has made HUGE Profits for Big Pharma. No Sir.
    Back then, when a Student got out of control, by exhibiting "Unacceptable Behavior", .... That unfortunate Student got his/her Ass busted with a paddle, either by the Teacher, or by the Principle, & many a time, got it busted again, by their parents at home.

    This method of giving an "Attitude Adjustment", in the majority of cases worked Miracles, that Modern Medicine has yet to match.

    The Majority of those who received an "Attitude Adjustment", quickly realized the "Error of their Foolish Ways", & conformed to the mIndset of why they were in School, ...... Learning the Three Rs, & how to become a Productive, Knowledgeable American Citizen, that would have the background of knowledge that would help them obtain The American Dream.

    But, ... the removal of "Attitude Adjustments", isn't what has brought America to it's widespread Moral & Physical Failure as a Nation.No Sir!

    What has caused the Vast Majority of America's Problems, including Students killing Students, & all of the other many Unjustified Killings is, ......
    I was with you all the way up to this point.
    Once you started playing the God card you lost me. If you want to blame someone for all the shootings then blame God himself. Doesn't God have the power to stop these shooters especially from murdering children? I believe in God & therefore believe He does have the power to stop these atrocities. He still allows these shootings to happen for whatever reason that is beyond our comprehension. On the non spiritual side I believe the biggest reason for all the mass shootings is the information that goes along with the evolution of society. Terrorism learns from past terrorism & ideas get expounded upon. There is just more news coverage & more information to put ideas in the minds of these sickos & there are more sickos out there than before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidDeBord View Post
    Greetings Ya'll,

    Do You want the Senseless, Demonic, & Unjustified Shootings in Our Homes, on Our Streets, in Our Schools, At Our Businesses, ... matter of fact, practically everywhere in America to Stop????????

    After all, .... We as a Nation, weren't always like this.

    Back in the 1960s, when I was a Student at the Lakota School District, Butler County, Ohio, ..... We had Gun Clubs, & Rocket Clubs.

    It was Not Abnormal, nor did it cause Panic, or a "Lock Down" to arrive at School, with a Rifle, or Pistol, for "Show & Tell", at the Gun Club.

    It was Not Abnormal, nor did it cause Panic, or a "Lock Down" to arrive at School with a Rifle &/or a Shotgun mounted in the gun rack, hanging at the back window, of a pick up truck, in the Student Parking lot.

    We didn't have children, that were Heavily Medicated due to some "Alleged Mental Illness", that in the later Years has made HUGE Profits for Big Pharma. No Sir.
    Back then, when a Student got out of control, by exhibiting "Unacceptable Behavior", .... That unfortunate Student got his/her Ass busted with a paddle, either by the Teacher, or by the Principle, & many a time, got it busted again, by their parents at home.

    This method of giving an "Attitude Adjustment", in the majority of cases worked Miracles, that Modern Medicine has yet to match.

    The Majority of those who received an "Attitude Adjustment", quickly realized the "Error of their Foolish Ways", & conformed to the mIndset of why they were in School, ...... Learning the Three Rs, & how to become a Productive, Knowledgeable American Citizen, that would have the background of knowledge that would help them obtain The American Dream.

    But, ... the removal of "Attitude Adjustments", isn't what has brought America to it's widespread Moral & Physical Failure as a Nation.No Sir!

    What has caused the Vast Majority of America's Problems, including Students killing Students, & all of the other many Unjustified Killings is, ......

    We have Kicked GOD Almighty out of Our Schools, Businesses, Governments (Local & Federal), Our Media, & Our Homes, & that started with the Federal Removal of Prayer from Our Public Schooling System, back in the 1960s.

    And for those who start screaming "Separation of Church & State!", .....Well, "in a nutshell", ... You either are suffering from Revisionist Common Core Knowledge, or You are Severely Constipated so badly that a Hazmat unit needs to care for you, ... Or Both.

    Many, many, many, Historical Documents, as well as Monuments, & Artifacts, Easily Prove, that at least from the early 1960s, clear back to when America was the New Home of the Pilgrims, ... The Almighty LORD GOD of Israel, was Absolutely, a very important part of America.
    The Way of The Almighty LORD GOD, was Freely Spoken of, Referred to, & Taught in Our Public Schools, with His Ten Commandments Covenant posted on the wall , at the front, of many a Classroom.

    That Way of Life, that Virtuous Mindset,was a "Guidepost" as to how an American should live, ... It was Far from Perfect, But Dammit, .. It Made America GREAT!!!

    America, at One Time, was the Most Blessed, Most Powerful, Most Moral, "Juggernaut" of Nations, upon this Planet, but now, ....... And this Tears at My Heart,... We have become a Pus covered, Rotting at the Core, Impotent, Falling apart, Shell of what We used to be. In Fact, .... We are so Bad off, that "Change You Can Believe In!", & "Make America Great Again!", caused multiple Millions to Foolishly Vote for their "Political Messiah". SMH

    So, .... Do You Truly Want To Stop the Senseless,Satanically Inspired Shootings?

    Then instead of accepting the endless laws of Man, that in all truth, haven't really stopped the Evil in Man's Hearts & Minds, .... Demand from our Treasonous & GODLESS , so called "Leaders", that they Immediately Return America to what it Once Was.

    IF, ... This doesn't Quickly Happen, in My Belief,.... America in an Ever Intensifying Fashion , is going to Reap the Curses of Deuteronomy 28:, (The Birth Pains), as well as Suffer the Last Days Prophecies.

    Mat 22:34 But the Pharisees, when they heard that he had silenced the Sadducees, gathered themselves together.
    Mat 22:35 One of them, a lawyer, asked him a question, testing him.
    Mat 22:36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the law?”
    Mat 22:37 Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’
    Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.
    Mat 22:39 A second likewise is this, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’
    Mat 22:40 The whole law and the prophets depend on these two commandments.”

    And yet, .....I'm certain, that the Mushroom like Sheeple of America, in a very Orwellian Fashion, will not Seek what worked in Our Past.
    Bingo .
    Bible and the Belt...it worked.
    It is my belief that once a certain age is reached its too late...these values need to be instilled early...and since school is essentially home away from home for half the day..alot is "not learned" in school.
    Remember the days when if you got in trouble at school you also got in trouble at home.
    It is so bad now.. that parents go defend thier children from school discipline..when there isn't any to begin with...all whilst they are teaching the kids that you don't have to listen to your parents..and if you are getting yelled at.....at home report it after the film has ended we will send child services out to your house...Wow !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by garyed View Post
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    Terrorism learns from past terrorism & ideas get expounded upon. There is just more news coverage & more information to put ideas in the minds of these sickos & there are more sickos out there than before.
    Right...an otherwise innocent mind may get "sparked" by the way media itself ....keep it simple.
    Shooter x was a turd and will getting his punishment
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    Quote Originally Posted by Missouri Guy View Post
    Bingo .
    Bible and the Belt...it worked.
    It is my belief that once a certain age is reached its too late...these values need to be instilled early...and since school is essentially home away from home for half the day..alot is "not learned" in school.
    Remember the days when if you got in trouble at school you also got in trouble at home.
    It is so bad now.. that parents go defend thier children from school discipline..when there isn't any to begin with...all whilst they are teaching the kids that you don't have to listen to your parents..and if you are getting yelled at.....at home report it after the film has ended we will send child services out to your house...Wow !!!
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    I went through that while raising My Kids.

    A couple of them got "Coached" by their Friends who had Liberal Godless Parents, & even a few Liberal Teachers added to it.

    At first, It tore the rug out from under my feet, when the "Human Services" worker pounded on the door,when one of the "Onry Boys" called them & told them that I was Strict & not feeding them.

    We had enough food for several months, with a fully Stocked Freezer & fridge.

    As far as "Strict",... I had grounded My Oldest Boy, for not doing his Homework, & Chores, & took the phone & TV away from him.LOL! He was Suffering!

    This Social Worker, then told me that she'd "Mark the complaint, as un-warranted".

    Over the years, as the other Boys & Girls got in High School, several of them decided that Dad was to Harsh, by not letting them run where ever they wanted, hang on the phone, not do their Home-work, make them do Chores, & Cut off their Allowance when they didn't do chores, or follow the Rules that I laid down. So, at various times, they called Human Services, thinking that I'd Bow Down to the Whim of Big Brother.

    I Hit The Brown County Law Library, & Researched all that I could find. I downloaded the State of Ohio's Manual that laid out how Human Services was to act, when it came to Situations with Children. I contacted a Constitutional Lawyer in the City, & laid out what was going on,as well as what I had learned, ... We talked for about Two Hours, & this Patriot did not charge me One Penny for his advice. I also contacted the Heritage Center.

    I then went to Human Services with My Documentation, & Showed them where they had "Stepped out of Bounds", & I informed them that the next time that they wanted Access to My Home &/or My Children, that they'd Damn Well Have a Warrant with Specifications, otherwise, ..... I would Make them Famous, as well as in a Financial State of Great Loss.

    The Social Workers Stopped Coming, but due to the "Mandatory Reporting Act",... whenever one of the kids thought that they'd get off Grounding, etc., & call Human Services, .... Lol! The Director of Brown County Human Services would call me, & ask me, "Dave, have you grounded your kids again? They're up to their Shenanigans again."

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    Gary,

    I'm not sure what is going on, but, .... I've been trying to reply to your comments, & for some reason, I Keep Getting a Error mesage that refers to a "Security Token Missing".

    This makes no Sense, cuz' I replied to Missouri Guy's comments with no problem.

    I have contacted the Administrator about this, but till they do something, ... All I'm gonna say is That YAHWEH gave Mankind the ability of "Free Choice".

    HE doesn't Make Us do anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garyed View Post
    I was with you all the way up to this point.
    Once you started playing the God card you lost me. If you want to blame someone for all the shootings then blame God himself. Doesn't God have the power to stop these shooters especially from murdering children? I believe in God & therefore believe He does have the power to stop these atrocities. He still allows these shootings to happen for whatever reason that is beyond our comprehension. On the non spiritual side I believe the biggest reason for all the mass shootings is the information that goes along with the evolution of society. Terrorism learns from past terrorism & ideas get expounded upon. There is just more news coverage & more information to put ideas in the minds of these sickos & there are more sickos out there than before.
    If God magically stopped the shootings...

    How would we learn to be responsible adults???

    God is not a patsy or an excuse...
    He gave us a set of common sense rules in the Bible... yet we rejected them... and now we complain when things do not work as we want...
    Sheesh... that is like a rebellious child who kills his parents... then whines because nobody is paying his way anymore.
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