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  1. #14
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    There is a union shop in Balt that subs out refrigerant recovery on chillers . Owner went through apprenticeship and was a Journeyman .

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    I agree with the safety and subbing out deal. We used to rig everything. I liked it because I knew it was safe and had control of the situation.
    Superheat, that must be REALLY hot.

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    Personally I would hate to think I had to get up everyday and go work on a McQuay centrifugal chiler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbomaster View Post
    I agree with the safety and subbing out deal. We used to rig everything. I liked it because I knew it was safe and had control of the situation.
    Please tell me you DO NOT sub out your rigging ? WTF ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Healey Nut View Post
    Please tell me you DO NOT sub out your rigging ? WTF ??
    I usually don't but others do if it's over 3 tons.
    Superheat, that must be REALLY hot.

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    I have worked for both McQuay will ruin your life i mean you won't have one Trane is more tolerable!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathias View Post
    I have worked for both McQuay will ruin your life i mean you won't have one Trane is more tolerable!
    Thanks for those answers, direct and to the point

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    I work for Trane in the late 70's and early 80's, I bet its a lot different today.

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    The local Carrier office subs out replacement of semi compressors to the area rebuild shop ; they ( subs ) also do the start-up to enable the warranty . They state it is a safety issue. Centrifugal rebuilds are so overpriced that independent / non-union / out-of-town shops get the work . The local JCI office states rebuilds are a waste of time ( they don't even have a gantry ) .The Trane office ( Maryland Trane and Boland Services ) does rebuilds in Md , DC , and Va .

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHILLERSVCMAN View Post
    Think about this : we are a HIGH RISK OPERATION , in many ways . We are more of a liability than an asset to the bean counters . A person that drives a mini-van and carries a lap top vs a full size van loaded with 20k+ in tools . Just the workers comp cases alone . Trust me I am not being negative. I see more and more that work is being subbed out due to the safety requirements that we must abide by . I used to have a load of steel delivered and erect a gantry . Now cant do that it is not certified . However I can watch the sub contracted rigging company do the same thing with more risk .
    Man, I would kill to not have to put up rigging before overhauls. My life would be so much easier. Going up 16 flights of steps with two guys and a 12' beam is no joke.

    Since I'm in Md, I would hands down choose Boland/Trane over Daikin America. Those Boland techs get all the training they could ever want. Not so much on the Daikin side.

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    And then someone rigged something in an unsafe manner, got injured and the lawyers got involved. Not any better having the subs do it either. They do it wrong, drop the chiller, get hurt or killed, and still sue JCI.

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    Now you are stretching it : That would be like suing the floor lift mechanic because your vehicle fell off the lift at the auto shop

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    JCI TECO merger good so far, i think you miss the point that jci sell millions of dollars in HVAC equiptment, we mechanics are a must to service their equiptment.

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