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    I've been given a new opportunity in the hvac field

    To start off I have read a lot since joining this forum a few months ago, I have learned an enormous amount from the seasoned techs and the folks that are just getting started. A while back I posted that I was getting back in the hvac field and have been given the opportunity to go to work for a company on the coast of North Carolina. I grew up visiting this area for vacations as a child and have returned to purchase a house and now I will be working in the area. Now that I have given y'all some background here is my issue. I have never really worked for anyone other than family in the hvac field, and for the past few years I have carried my tools and equipment in my truck, now that I will be working for someone else, I would like to know how y'all handle the tools situation. I am planning to have 2 sets of tools, 1 in my personal truck and 1 for the service truck I will be assigned. That way I'm not swapping tools everyday. I have a good selection of hand tools for service and installation, and my clamp amp probe and multi meter. The new company provides gauges,torch, vac pump, reclaim, and some other items, that I am not 100% on exactly what but will find out when I start in a couple weeks. This is a new hvac division for this company so I am going to be getting in on the ground floor and getting this up and running. Are there some new products or tools that I need to consider? I know that leaves a lot open for discussion, I am fairly old school when it comes to tools and equipment. We will be doing on residential service, maintenance,and change outs. Sorry for the long post but I wanted to give y'all enough information so you can give me the best advice. Thanks in advance for the advice and help.

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    I carry everything in my truck and also drive it to and from work. I'm not sure what to tell you. It says in you bio you work on up to 25 ton. I can only guess that you have the tool to work on everything in between? Pulley pullers Hub pullers micron gauge nitrogen regulators xcetera slack tube. Enter commas where necessary

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    Not sure how the up to 25 ton part is in my bio, but I'll see if that can be changed or it was a typo on my part. Sorry for the miss information. I will only be doing residential repairs, maintenance, and change outs.

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    Pulley pullers or pulley, pullers? :-)

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    Get the boss to get you a quality set of digital gauges...

    IMO once you try them... you will never be without them!
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    I dont see why you need 2 sets of tools. Will you not be taking the van home?


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    Along with the digital gauges I would get a vacuum set up with least 2- 3/8" vacuum rated hoses if not 1/2" and the Appion vacuum rayed valve core remover. If you go digi gauges don't worry whether or not it has a vacuum gauge built in don't vacuum through your gauges.

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    No I will not be taking a truck home, not just yet, when the after hour calls deem it necessary I will. I will see what kind of gauges they provide when I start to work. Also the vacuum pump setup is just about a must this day and time. Thanks for the comments, keep them coming.

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    Are you going to be starting the HVAC division for them?

    You'll need way more stuff if that's the case.
    Sheetmetal brake, shear, pipe threader, rotary hammer, small gantry crane, ladders, small welder, all sorts of stuff.

    These types of questions are always tough to answer cause the list of tools is about as tall as I am. So the more specific you could get as to what type of tools your short on would help us point you alot better.

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    I don't get the truck to take home, My Tools go with me on there dime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pecmsg View Post
    I don't get the truck to take home, My Tools go with me on there dime.
    So you load and unload all your tools everyday?

    That would take me 2 hrs in the morning and in the afternoon plus 2 hrs travel to site in the morning and in the afternoon take lunch in the middle somewhere and I would be left with 0 time for any work.


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    The idea is that if you don't take the truck home, then the company furnishes EVERYTHING except your one (hand tool) bag.


    Quote Originally Posted by heatingman View Post
    So you load and unload all your tools everyday?

    That would take me 2 hrs in the morning and in the afternoon plus 2 hrs travel to site in the morning and in the afternoon take lunch in the middle somewhere and I would be left with 0 time for any work.


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    I've been given a new opportunity in the hvac field

    Quote Originally Posted by BBeerme View Post
    The idea is that if you don't take the truck home, then the company furnishes EVERYTHING except your one (hand tool) bag.
    Thats not how pecmsg made it sound.




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    I had a previous employer 'threaten' to have me park the truck at the shop.

    It was during one recession or another, so money was getting tight. Gasoline was probably on the rise. Insurance costs more if the trucks are not parked at the shop each night.

    So I took all that into consideration and played it very low key. Explaining that he would then need to go out and buy 10 to 15K worth of tools, because there was no way I was leaving my personal tools on a truck for someone else to drive. And, of course, you'll have to take me off of the on call schedule. Because it's unlikely I'll respond to a call if there is not a truck sitting outside my house. And of course my pay would start as soon as I touched the truck, and wouldn't end until I locked the door at the end of the day. Which means he'd have to pay me travel that he wasn't already paying me for.

    I probably came up with a couple of other creative things to say. All very low key. That is not a time to escalate matters. Anyway, he realized that decision wouldn't have been one of his best. And everything remained the same.
    I do a triple evac with nitro to remove non condensables.

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    Thanks for the comments and questions, i hope I can remember to answer everyone. This company just started the hvac division a couple years ago, they also do property maintenance and remodeling work. The owner branched out into the hvac side to offer his customers another service, in this area people are very loyal to a company that provides exceptional service. There's a lot of ''the island life'' in people around here, especially in the summer time, seems like you can't get any body to do work because they are out fishing or on the beach, or chilling at the local bar. With all that background information said, we will/have been doing system checkups and maintance contracts. We do change outs, no new construction and service. So for now we don't need a sheet metal shop or equipment, I think the owner has another hvac shop make the duct work or rain shields when the need arises.
    The reason for having a second set of tools is because for now we don't have enough after hour calls to warrant me driving the van home, I think that will change very soon as this program grows. I want/need to keep a set of hand tools if you will in my personal truck for my side hustle work. From what I understand this company just needs me to provide my hand tools and possibly battery tools, drill, driver, sawzall. They have vacuum pump, reclaim, torch, gauges on the truck, and possibly amp probe and volt meter, temp gun. I will find out this coming week when I start. Once again thanks for the help, I do spend some time each night on here reading and learning. Y'all folks are the top message board/forum I read, everyone here helps make the hvac industry continue to excel by providing great information to help us all learn and be better at this trade.

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    If that is the case, you should have no personal tools on the truck when you are not on the clock.

    Each morning you put your tool pouch or tool bag on the truck along with your meter and gauges.

    Each evening you put those same tools back in your vehicle to drive home.

    Are those tools even insured against things like theft or fire?

    The other point of contention is that you don't even need to be on call if the truck is not in your driveway. Where I work now, I've been there almost exactly four years, and I've had something like five after hours or weekend calls. With that [my] ratio, do you have to respond to less than [roughly] one call per year?

    And yes, if my employer wouldn't allow me to drive the truck home each day, he would need to stock anything I could not carry to my personal vehicle in one trip.



    Quote Originally Posted by CCMO View Post
    Thanks for the comments and questions, i hope I can remember to answer everyone. This company just started the hvac division a couple years ago, they also do property maintenance and remodeling work. The owner branched out into the hvac side to offer his customers another service, in this area people are very loyal to a company that provides exceptional service. There's a lot of ''the island life'' in people around here, especially in the summer time, seems like you can't get any body to do work because they are out fishing or on the beach, or chilling at the local bar. With all that background information said, we will/have been doing system checkups and maintance contracts. We do change outs, no new construction and service. So for now we don't need a sheet metal shop or equipment, I think the owner has another hvac shop make the duct work or rain shields when the need arises.
    The reason for having a second set of tools is because for now we don't have enough after hour calls to warrant me driving the van home, I think that will change very soon as this program grows. I want/need to keep a set of hand tools if you will in my personal truck for my side hustle work. From what I understand this company just needs me to provide my hand tools and possibly battery tools, drill, driver, sawzall. They have vacuum pump, reclaim, torch, gauges on the truck, and possibly amp probe and volt meter, temp gun. I will find out this coming week when I start. Once again thanks for the help, I do spend some time each night on here reading and learning. Y'all folks are the top message board/forum I read, everyone here helps make the hvac industry continue to excel by providing great information to help us all learn and be better at this trade.
    I do a triple evac with nitro to remove non condensables.

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