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    non-brass flare nut??

    PRZ inspector doesn't want copper or brass connection to coffee brewer.

    How do I make the connection to the 1/4"male flare on the equipment?

    Please, specific details. It won't help to know to use SS nut, unless you can tell me where to find this?

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    Would your inspector accept a plastic John Guest fitting?

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    Why?

    The flare nut never touches the product.

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    That makes no sense. What if you used a braided stainless hose with flares

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    Cannot find info on that.
    Quote Originally Posted by howerpeter View Post
    Would your inspector accept a plastic John Guest fitting?

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    Good idea. How to connct to plastic 1/4" without using brass or copper?

    Quote Originally Posted by James Colver View Post
    That makes no sense. What if you used a braided stainless hose with flares

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    Quote Originally Posted by timjimbob View Post
    Good idea. How to connct to plastic 1/4" without using brass or copper?
    1/4 PEX?

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    Bev Flex

    I'll take a picture in a bit.


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    I did a little searching as to why...
    This is from the North Carolina Food Code Manual (2009)-

    "4-101.14 Copper, Use Limitation.
    (A) Except as specified in ¶ (B) of this section, copper and
    copper alloys such as brass may not be used in contact with a
    FOOD that has a pH below 6 such as vinegar, fruit JUICE, or wine
    or for a fitting or tubing installed between a backflow prevention
    device and a carbonator. P

    (B) Copper and copper alloys may be used in contact with beer
    brewing ingredients that have a pH below 6 in the
    prefermentation and fermentation steps of a beer brewing
    operation such as a brewpub or microbrewery."

    Coffee is mildly acidic, around 4.5 PH.

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    I realize I have used John Guest fittings for years, yet there still is no option I have found to connect a non copper/brass female flare to a male flare on the dispenser. This inspector better have a solution-I think he is overly stuck on being unrealistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timjimbob View Post
    I realize I have used John Guest fittings for years, yet there still is no option I have found to connect a non copper/brass female flare to a male flare on the dispenser. This inspector better have a solution-I think he is overly stuck on being unrealistic.
    What about one of these to a stub connector to your 1/4 line?

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    Well there you go! I missed that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timjimbob View Post
    Well there you go! I missed that.
    If you can't tell that is right from the Walmart app, or Grainger if you need an odd size

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    Sure but is this the water inlet line? Last I checked only water went in there and coffee came out the business end into the pot.
    Quote Originally Posted by drewwells View Post
    I did a little searching as to why...
    This is from the North Carolina Food Code Manual (2009)-

    "4-101.14 Copper, Use Limitation.
    (A) Except as specified in ¶ (B) of this section, copper and
    copper alloys such as brass may not be used in contact with a
    FOOD that has a pH below 6 such as vinegar, fruit JUICE, or wine
    or for a fitting or tubing installed between a backflow prevention
    device and a carbonator. P

    (B) Copper and copper alloys may be used in contact with beer
    brewing ingredients that have a pH below 6 in the
    prefermentation and fermentation steps of a beer brewing
    operation such as a brewpub or microbrewery."

    Coffee is mildly acidic, around 4.5 PH.

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    Actually, this is only a hot water dispenser. water is 7ish around here, both in and out.

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    I'm still trying to figure out how the water touches the flare nut.

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    I have a question is this a newer inspector? I have had a newer health inspector try to tell me a walk-in freezer was out of temp when it was in defrost. Is he just digging¿

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    Inspectors sometimes use a "weighted" thermometer that averages the temp over a period of time, thus taking into account times when door is open or defrosting.
    Quote Originally Posted by howerpeter View Post
    I have a question is this a newer inspector? I have had a newer health inspector try to tell me a walk-in freezer was out of temp when it was in defrost. Is he just digging¿

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