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    Innovative but wrong

    Have a good look at the filter position with respect to the blower housing.




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    INTERNAL filters are not allowed in Iowa, IF inspected...
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    Seems like more work to do that than to install it exterior to the furnace

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    Quote Originally Posted by cehs View Post
    INTERNAL filters are not allowed in Iowa, IF inspected...
    Really? Why is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cehs View Post
    INTERNAL filters are not allowed in Iowa, IF inspected...
    purty much all filters should be installed "internal" maybe ask what "internal" means?

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    I think I see that a lot, unless I'm missing something. Sure, it's not ideal but it works ok.

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    I see a bigger problem with the style of floor pattern

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    Ohh no, no, kdean1, he mounted it correctly. That's one of those low-efficiency 50% filter systems.
    Lowers monthly cost on filter replacements by only affecting 50% of the airflow.

    I think it was invented by Homedepot purchasing department. They found by only carrying 50% of common parts used in each department you lower your overhead and get customers to spend an extra hour searching the shelves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XcelTech View Post
    Ohh no, no, kdean1, he mounted it correctly. That's one of those low-efficiency 50% filter systems.
    Lowers monthly cost on filter replacements by only affecting 50% of the airflow.

    I think it was invented by Homedepot purchasing department. They found by only carrying 50% of common parts used in each department you lower your overhead and get customers to spend an extra hour searching the shelves.
    It looks like it's a left side return and the filter is completely covering the return. It's a sh!tty filter in a bad location, but it's pretty typical.

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    Better then no filter
    not saying this is a grate install but at least it has some type of filter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Man View Post
    It looks like it's a left side return and the filter is completely covering the return. It's a sh!tty filter in a bad location, but it's pretty typical.
    You sure? That metal at the bottom looks like store bought sheet metal to me. The color doesn't match the thin Goodman style like you can see on the sides.

    I guess that could be dust making it look that way.
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    INTERNAL filters are not allowed in Iowa, IF inspected...
    Quote Originally Posted by CircusEnvy View Post
    Really? Why is that?
    Too many home owners and tenants do NOT know how to reinstall the cover panels and often do damage to the inner workings of the furnace. So to prevent that from occurring, they made it illegal and require filters to be changed without opening the furnace cabinet.
    It still might be done but not where an inspector will catch it.
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    The temperature rise on that furnace was 75*. Spec is 30-60*. Naturally it was cycling off on high limit. Numerous shortcuts were taken during the installation. Among them were using a 16x20 rack for a 28" deep furnace, return system is 3 wall cavities and 1-6" duct, cramming the furnace and atmospheric vented water heater into a bedroom closet with a solid door, and more.
    I'd never seen a filter rack used inside a furnace and putting it against the side of the blower housing ensured that it would reduce limited air flow still more. It all smacked of cheapest installer with the cheapest equipment. (That's why I put the door so part of the Goodman label could be seen.)
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