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  1. #27
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    As long as we vote via a computer, it is hackable.

    So ask your self why our government would allow that.

    And if your American English sucks, you better have good proof of citizenship.

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    glen pretty much nailed it.

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    53,000 Dead Voters Found in Florida

    I have learned that Florida election officials are set to announce that the secretary of state has discovered and purged up to 53,000 dead voters from the voter rolls in Florida.

    How could 53,000 dead voters have sat on the polls for so long? Simple. Because Florida hadn't been using the best available data revealing which voters have died. Florida is now using the nationwide Social Security Death Index for determining which voters should be purged because they have died.

    Here is the bad news. Most states aren't using the same database that Florida is. In fact, I have heard reports that some election officials won't even remove voters even when they are presented with a death certificate. That means that voter rolls across the nation still are filled with dead voters, even if Florida is leading the way in detecting and removing them.

    But surely people aren't voting in the names of dead voters, the voter fraud deniers argue. Wrong.

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    53K Dead People on Florida's Voter Rolls

    Florida's local election supervisors reacted with skepticism Wednesday to a push by state authorities to remove thousands of potential non-U.S. citizens from the voting rolls, only months before the 2012 elections in which the coveted swing state will play a key role.

    The supervisors, meeting at their annual summer conference, peppered state election officials with questions about the list of more than 2,600 registered voters who have been identified as being in Florida legally but ineligible to vote. That list was sent to supervisors recently, but state officials have also said there may be as many as 182,000 registered voters who may not be citizens.

    The questions about voter eligibility surface as the state continues its months-long efforts to scrub the rolls, including asking supervisors to remove more than 53,000 dead people discovered by comparing voter rolls to federal Social Security files. This was the first time the state checked the files. It was allowed under a controversial election law that passed the GOP-controlled Legislature last year.

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    53,000 Dead Registered Voters in Florida, Millions Nationwide

    The Florida Secretary of State has discovered 53,000 dead voters registered to vote. The Secretary of State has also flagged thousands of potential non-citizens who are also registered to vote. This discovery is indicative of a wider national problem with dead and ineligible voters on the rolls heading into the Presidential election.

    In the 2012 legislative session, Florida finally passed a law requiring the use of the Social Security Death Index (SSDI) to determine if dead people are registered to vote in Florida. Secretary of State Kurt Browning and then-State Election Director Don Palmer proposed this idea in the previous legislative session, but the bill did not pass.

    Florida discovered the dead voters by matching voter rolls against the SSDI.

    The SSDI is the list of Americans who have died and applied for death benefits. Because an application must be submitted by the next of kin and carries criminal penalties for false statements, it is considered the most accurate list of dead voters available.

    Yet most states don’t use the SSDI. Instead, they use a hodge-podge of other information, usually compiled from the state bureaus of vital statistics. But state bureau reporting is slow and incomplete.

    Three counties in Florida have reported more citizens registered to vote than people alive eligible to vote – St. Johns, Okaloosa, and Santa Rosa – according to the most recent Election Assistance Commission report.

    Having dead people infesting the rolls is the first step to voter impersonation.

    Federal law requires states to have a reasonable voter list maintenance program and gives the Eric Holder Justice Department the power to sue states that don’t. Not surprisingly, Holder’s DOJ has not brought a single case under the law to require states to clean up corrupted voter rolls. Indeed, when I served at the DOJ Voting Section, an announcement was made in November 2009 that this provision of the law would not be enforced. The political leadership was philosophically opposed to the law, and they said so.

    Make no mistake, the problem of corrupted voter rolls is not confined to Florida. It extends to New Mexico, Iowa, Indiana, West Virginia, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Mississippi, and other states. Judicial Watch has notified various states they are in violation of the law and will be filing lawsuits to force the sort of clean-up that Florida has now started.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...ns-nationwide/
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    Might as well just learn to live with it cause nothing is going to be done about it.
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    The country’s voter ID laws, in 1 map

    On Monday, Arkansas Gov. Mike Beebe (D) vetoed a measure that would have required voters to show identification before voting, drawing renewed attention to an issue Democrats and Republicans have tussled over in numerous states.

    Thanks to a handy map from the National Conference of State Legislatures, you can take a look the voter identification laws in all 50 states. Some have no regulations, while others have considerably stricter laws on the books. Click on the map for more details on the specific regulations in each state.



    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.42a96f1cd54e


    Minority turnout increased dramatically after Georgia voter-ID law

    Politico’s Mike Allen called this “the most surprising story of the day” [see update!], which really only applies to the hysterics and the demagogues who oppose measures to combat ballot fraud. After Georgia passed a voter-ID requirement in time for the 2008 election cycle, critics claimed that it would suppress black and Hispanic votes and lead to a new era of Jim Crow. Instead, as the Atlanta Journal-Constitution discovered, it’s led to a new era of eating crow (via The Corner):

    When Georgia became one of the first states in the nation to demand a photo ID at the ballot box, both sides served up dire predictions. Opponents labeled it a Jim Crow-era tactic that would suppress the minority vote. Supporters insisted it was needed to combat fraud that imperiled the integrity of the elections process.

    But both claims were overblown, according to a review of by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution of statewide voting patterns in the five years since the law took effect.

    Turnout among black and Hispanic voters increased from 2006 to 2010, dramatically outpacing population growth for those groups over the same period.

    https://hotair.com/archives/2013/09/...-voter-id-law/


    Voter turnout in Texas nearly doubles under new ID law

    The first Texas elections under a contentious new photo ID law drew interesting conclusions for an off-year election that normally draws a low amount of voters.

    There were nine proposed amendments to the Texas Constitution, and the number of votes tallied was nearly double what it was in 2011. Democrats and civil rights groups have long argued that voter ID requirements suppress turnout, particularly in poor and minority communities.

    All nine measures were approved during this election, and dealt primarily with taxes and state budgets, according to Ballot Pedia.

    Taxes and state budgets were also the most popular ballot measures for 2011, but the voter ID law had not been passed during that election.

    Statewide, an average of about 672,874 Texans voted on those 10 constitutional amendments in 2011. In 2013, the number of votes cast in Texas reached 1,099,670.

    In Hidalgo County, which is 90 percent Hispanic, just over 4,000 voted in the constitutional amendment election in 2011. In 2013, an average of over 16,000 voted according to the Texas secretary of state’s office.

    Greg Abbott, the Republican attorney general and likely governor nominee, stated that critics of the voter ID law had “run out of claims” about those struggling to vote without an ID.

    That hasn’t stopped opponents of the voter ID law from continuing their mission to get the law thrown out. The Houston Chronicle reports that the Justice Department, civil rights groups and U.S. Rep. Marc Veasey have filed a federal lawsuit to get the law overturned.

    Abbott has asked for the case to be thrown out, calling the whole situation “overhyped.”

    http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/13/vo...er-new-id-law/
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    Lessons from the Voter ID Experience in Texas

    The latest data from Texas about the state’s experience with its first election held after its new photographic voter identification law became effective show that this requirement has done nothing to suppress voter turnout throughout the state. In fact, turnout in last year’s constitutional elections in Texas yielded some of the highest turnout numbers in the past decade for similar type elections.

    Although this trend applies to statewide turnout, it is also true of various counties’ turnout rates, even those with large numbers of minority voters where voter ID laws were predicted to restrict the ability of many citizens to vote. The oft-heard claim by voter ID opponents that such laws discriminate against poor and minority voters has once again been shown to be untrue.

    Voter ID

    Passed in 2011, Senate Bill 14 requires all in-person voters in Texas to present a valid photo ID when voting. Forms of acceptable ID include:

    • A Texas driver license issued by the Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS),
    • A Texas Election Identification Certificate issued by DPS,
    • A Texas personal identification card issued by DPS,
    • A Texas concealed handgun license issued by DPS,
    • A U.S. military identification card containing the person’s photograph, or
    • A U.S. passport.

    A Texas Election Identification Certificate can be obtained for free from any DPS driver’s license office, as well as county offices in 37 additional counties. Prior to the November 2013 election, DPS also set up mobile ID stations in 41 other counties.

    U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder objected to the Texas voter ID law under Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act on March 12, 2012, and a federal district court in Washington, D.C., refused to dismiss his objection. But that court opinion and the objection became moot in 2013 when the U.S. Supreme Court held in a separate case, Shelby County v. Holder, that the coverage formula for Section 5—which dictated the state’s inclusion under the Section 5 preclearance regime—was unconstitutional. The Texas voter ID law immediately went into effect.

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    Massive Voter Fraud Discovered in North Carolina's 2012 Election
    By Bryan Preston April 2, 2014

    The North Carolina State Board of Elections has found thousands of instances of voter fraud in the state, thanks to a 28-state crosscheck of voter rolls. Initial findings suggest widespread election fraud.

    • 765 voters with an exact match of first and last name, DOB and last four digits of SSN were registered in N.C. and another state and voted in N.C. and the other state in the 2012 general election.
    • 35,750 voters with the same first and last name and DOB were registered in N.C. and another state and voted in both states in the 2012 general election.
    • 155,692 voters with the same first and last name, DOB and last four digits of SSN were registered in N.C. and another state – and the latest date of registration or voter activity did not take place within N.C.

    The second point is key, as double voting is election fraud under state and federal statutes. Punishment for double voting in federal elections can include jail time.

    In October 2012, Project Veritas produced video showing a Barack Obama campaign worker helping a voter register to vote in both Texas and Florida.

    The Interstate Crosscheck examines 101 million voter records in more than two dozen participating states.

    The findings, while large, leave open the question of just how widespread double voting might be since 22 states did not participate in the Interstate Crosscheck.

    In addition to the above, the crosscheck found that more than 13,000 deceased voters remain on North Carolina's rolls, and that 81 of them showed voter activity in their records after death.

    North Carolina officials are now calling for tighter election security.

    https://pjmedia.com/blog/massive-vot...-2012-election
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    Are you democrats forgetting that Obama in a televised interview assured illegals they would not be prosecuted for voting? Have you also forgot that when the computers changed votes from republican to democrat not one vote was found to be changed from democrat to republican? Have you for forgot that in 2012 several precincts in one state had Obama with 99% of the vote?

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    No fair, wayne! You are confronting them with facts. They can't stand the truth.

    99%, find the nonconformists.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WAYNE3298 View Post
    Are you democrats forgetting that Obama in a televised interview assured illegals they would not be prosecuted for voting? Have you also forgot that when the computers changed votes from republican to democrat not one vote was found to be changed from democrat to republican? Have you for forgot that in 2012 several precincts in one state had Obama with 99% of the vote?
    Got a link?
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    Quote Originally Posted by netsalt View Post
    Got a link?
    I just looked it up; the girl interviewing him phrased the question so poorly that Obama's answer was easily misconstrued.

    http://nymag.com/selectall/2016/12/w...s-to-vote.html

    "Here’s O’Connor’s transcript of their exchange, with a note from me in brackets:

    RODRIGUEZ: Many of the millennials, Dreamers, undocumented citizens — and I call them citizens because they contribute to this country — are fearful of voting. So if I vote, will immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us?

    OBAMA: Not true. And the reason is, first of all, when you vote, you are a citizen yourself. And there is not a situation where the voting rolls somehow are transferred over and people start investigating, et cetera. The sanctity of the vote is strictly confidential [note: Cavuto’s show cuts things right here] in terms of who you voted for. If you have a family member who maybe is undocumented, then you have an even greater reason to vote.

    RODRIGUEZ: This has been a huge fear presented especially during this election.

    OBAMA: And the reason that fear is promoted is because they don’t want people voting. People are discouraged from voting and part of what is important for Latino citizens is to make your voice heard, because you’re not just speaking for yourself. You’re speaking for family members, friends, classmates of yours in school …

    RODRIGUEZ: Your entire community.

    OBAMA: … who may not have a voice. Who can’t legally vote. But they’re counting on you to make sure that you have the courage to make your voice heard. "




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    People tend to believe what they want to hear. No amount of fact checking or research can change that as the facts will just be tossed aside as fake news... lies... whatever.

    Vote flipping... there have been instances of this happening with both dems and reps... dem votes changed to the pug candidate... pug votes changed to dem. Not just pug to dem as Waynes "source" would have people believe.

    If someone were to rig a machine to cast a vote for the opposite party I am sure they could figure out a way to do it without the voter watching it happen before their very eyes.

    No conspiracy to it... just old machines... bad or improperly calibrated touchscreens. Modern technology has once again failed.

    I hated the change from the levers to digital machines. I hate standing at one of those cheap flimsy terminals. Just shows how far america has fallen. Cheap chinese junk standing on spindly little legs......... my GOD... what happened to us......

    GD computer age and the internet........
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    Quote Originally Posted by shellkamp View Post
    I just looked it up; the girl interviewing him phrased the question so poorly that Obama's answer was easily misconstrued.

    http://nymag.com/selectall/2016/12/w...s-to-vote.html

    "Here’s O’Connor’s transcript of their exchange, with a note from me in brackets:

    RODRIGUEZ: Many of the millennials, Dreamers, undocumented citizens — and I call them citizens because they contribute to this country — are fearful of voting. So if I vote, will immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us?

    OBAMA: Not true. And the reason is, first of all, when you vote, you are a citizen yourself. And there is not a situation where the voting rolls somehow are transferred over and people start investigating, et cetera. The sanctity of the vote is strictly confidential [note: Cavuto’s show cuts things right here] in terms of who you voted for. If you have a family member who maybe is undocumented, then you have an even greater reason to vote.

    RODRIGUEZ: This has been a huge fear presented especially during this election.

    OBAMA: And the reason that fear is promoted is because they don’t want people voting. People are discouraged from voting and part of what is important for Latino citizens is to make your voice heard, because you’re not just speaking for yourself. You’re speaking for family members, friends, classmates of yours in school …

    RODRIGUEZ: Your entire community.

    OBAMA: … who may not have a voice. Who can’t legally vote. But they’re counting on you to make sure that you have the courage to make your voice heard. "




    Everybody: verify your facts. Don't succumb to the soundbite mentality.

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    IMO... it does not take much thought... to determine BOTH of the people in that conversation... had an agenda to encourage folks to vote DEM! It is subtle... yet it is there!

    The media is left/liberal... IMO the public needs to realize this and choose to take what they say with a grain of salt... until it is verified independently from what the media says.
    With the internet... that is not hard to do.
    IMO it is the casual person who is satisfied with a cool soundbyte (we all know them... the ones that are repeated and make folks feel good)... who do not research the details for truth... which are the prey of a polecat who is only interested in power.
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    The left agrees that there was election fraud. The proof is that Trumps got elected instead of Hillary. That's all the proof the left requires.
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