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    Updated BFS

    https://thespaceport.us/forum/upload...1536942264.jpg


    SpaceX Have Redesigned The BFS & Found a Passenger.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy82MwITw34


    Elon Musk is building a spaceship that's so ambitious that some experts are calling it 'science fiction.' Here's what SpaceX and its engineers are up against.
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    In December, a giant white tent appeared at the Port of Los Angeles. A routine permit suggested that SpaceX, the rocket company founded by Elon Musk, was using the roughly 20,000-square-foot $500,000 facility as a "storage tent."

    But Musk revealed the tent's true purpose a few months later. Inside, his engineers are building a colossal interplanetary spacecraft called the Big Falcon Rocket (BFR or, as Musk has said, Big F---ing Rocket).

    On September 17, SpaceX named its first private passenger to be launched in the BFR: Yusaku Maezawa, a Japanese billionaire and art collector. Maezawa plans to fly around the moon and take a crew of up to eight artists with him on a week-long mission called "#dearMoon."

    https://www.businessinsider.com/spac...issions-2018-9


    Design has been changed so the 🚀 lands on legs that extend from the tips of the three fins, two of which actuate (mostly for pitch control)
    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1041482806600204294


    Rear View

    https://thespaceport.us/forum/upload...1537121955.jpg


    Fin Positions

    https://thespaceport.us/forum/upload...1537737700.gif


    Elon Musk just revealed the 'final iteration' of SpaceX's biggest and most powerful rocket ship — take a look
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    HAWTHORNE, California — Elon Musk has finally revealed the person who is paying SpaceX untold millions to have the rocket company launch a private mission around the moon.

    Yasuka Maezawa, or "MZ" as SpaceX's newest benefactor prefers to be called, is a Japanese entrepreneur, art collector, billionaire, and skateboarder who made his fortune in the fashion industry over the past 20 years.

    In 2023, Maezawa hopes to pile six to eight artists inside SpaceX's giant new launch system called BFR, which stands for Big Falcon Rocket (or, as Musk has described it, Big F---ing rocket). They'd then launch from Earth and voyage around the moon on a trip that would take about six days.

    Maezawa's goal with the mission, which he's titled #dearMoon, is to spread messages of art and peace in both space and on Earth.

    Although Maezawa's announcement surprised many people inside SpaceX's rocket factory on Monday night, new images and information about the BFR that Musk shared raised even more eyebrows.

    "This is the final iteration, in terms of broad architectural design," Musk told roughly 100 reporters during the press event.

    Here are the latest BFR pictures Musk showed, how the in-development spacecraft has changed, and why tweaks that SpaceX engineers made are so important for the company's ultimate goal of colonizing Mars.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/spac...on-musk-2018-9


    SpaceX BFR launch vehicle - approach and landing maneuvers - Lunar BFR Mission 9/2018 前澤 友作 #月
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8fdOEh-FRs


    Stage Separation

    https://i.imgur.com/XnRzQ4b.png


    SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System (Updates)
    https://thespaceport.us/forum/topic/...pdates/page-35
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    Why does SpaceX keep changing the BFR? The evolution of BFR

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbevByDvLXI


    DocM #912
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    This vehicle doesn't try to avoid a stall, it embraces the stall. A stall is its normal condition. It's a falling barn door that stays flat to the airflow & steers using drag brakes at its corners.

    https://thespaceport.us/forum/topic/...pdates/page-37


    Battlestar Galactica | The Adama Maneuver
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AjX...youtu.be&t=100

    SpaceX Mars Landing update
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00CpItR97zY

    Mars Base Alpha
    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/...926528/photo/1

    BFS Rotated
    https://imgur.com/XlFlHCX


    Elon Musk just gave the most revealing look yet at the rocket ship SpaceX is building to fly to the moon and Mars
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    Elon Musk has provided several new, rare, and telling glimpses into how his rocket company, SpaceX, is building a spacecraft to reach Mars.

    On September 17, Musk announced that SpaceX would fly Japanese billionaire Yusaku Maezawa around the moon on the company's Big Falcon Rocket or BFR. During that event, Musk showed off new renderings of the launch system, along with a few photos of the work going on inside SpaceX's spaceship-building tent at the Port of Los Angeles.

    These were the first new details about SpaceX's rocket construction we'd gotten since April, when Musk posted a photo that revealed SpaceX was building the spacecraft using a 40-foot-long, 30-foot-wide cylindrical tool.


    A tool SpaceX is using to build its Big Falcon Rocket spaceships.Elon Musk/SpaceX; Instagram

    Read the rest and see the pictures:
    https://www.businessinsider.com/elon...aceship-2018-9

    Watching @SpaceX Kevin Hatton explaining rocketry to more than a thousand air traffic controllers.
    https://twitter.com/Lori_Garver/stat...802560/photo/1

    SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System (Updates)
    https://thespaceport.us/forum/topic/...pdates/page-37
    Last edited by Space Racer; 06-14-2019 at 10:35 PM.
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    Satellite communications CEO describes ‘synergistic’ relationship with SpaceX
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    Satellite communications leader, Matt Desch, praised Elon Musk and his company SpaceX for making space exploration affordable, saying it helped bring wireless communications to a truly global scale.

    Desch, who is the chief executive officer of Iridium Communications, said that Iridium is Space X’s “largest commercial customer,” and credits the two companies “synergistic” relationship for helping the company launch seven groups of satellites into space, with an eighth group slated to be deployed in December.

    “The drivers and the innovation that Space X is doing is similar to what Iridium is doing and we kind of play off each other in terms of being synergistic,” Desch told “Rising” Hill.TV co-hosts Krystal Ball and Buck Sexton on Friday.

    “I don’t think we would have been able to get these 75 new satellites into space over the last two years if it hadn’t been for the cost effective transport system that Space X has created,” the CEO added.

    Read the rest and see the short video:
    https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/41...ip-with-spacex


    US Air Force explores space-based cargo operations, confirms talks with SpaceX
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    GRAPEVINE, Texas — The U.S. Air Force is exploring the logistics of space-based cargo operations under the purview of Air Mobility Command, even as the impact of a new Space Force on the mobility community remains to be seen.

    “I don’t know how it will affect mobility, but most of you know space affects mobility every day,” Gen. Paul Selva, vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said Thursday at the 2018 Airlift/Tanker Symposium outside Dallas, Texas.

    “Whatever the Space Force is or does, it has to protect our national interest in space,” he said, adding that GPS is critical to the air mobility community.

    As for what space cargo operations could look like, the previous head of Air Mobility Command, Gen. Carlton Everhart, espoused the possibility of moving cargo using rockets during a Defense Writers Group breakfast in August.

    “Think about this. Thirty minutes, 150 metric tons [and] less than the cost of a C-5,” he said at the time.

    https://www.defensenews.com/digital-...s-with-spacex/


    SpaceX confirms initial BFR spaceship flight tests will occur in South Texas
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    SpaceX has confirmed that the two large propellant tanks now present at its Boca Chica, Texas facilities will likely to be the last major ground tanks needed to enable the first test flights of the upper stage of its next-gen BFR rocket, known as the Big Falcon Spaceship (BFS).

    Expected to begin as soon as late 2019, SpaceX executives have recently reiterated plans for a campaign of hop tests for the first full-scale spaceship prototype, in which the ship will follow in the footsteps of its Falcon 9-based Grasshopper and F9R predecessors.

    https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-ini...xas-confirmed/


    SpaceX confirms it will do first hopper tests of BFR in Boca Chica
    https://behindtheblack.com/behind-th...in-boca-chica/


    SpaceX to Build 'Mini BFR' Version of Mars Ship to Fly on Falcon 9, Elon Musk Says
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    SpaceX aims to start flight-testing key design components of its Mars-settling spaceship next year, company founder and CEO Elon Musk said.

    The plan involves upgrading the upper stage of SpaceX's workhorse Falcon 9 rocket "to be like a mini BFR Ship," Musk said via Twitter Wednesday (Nov. 7).

    https://www.space.com/42375-spacex-m...-falcon-9.html


    SpaceX to build test prototype of BFS, test on Falcon 9
    https://behindtheblack.com/behind-th...t-on-falcon-9/


    SpaceX’s next big BFR spaceship part finished in Port of LA tent facility
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    The first 9-meter (29.5-foot) diameter composite propellant tank dome for SpaceX’s full-scale BFR spaceship prototype has been spotted more or less complete at the company’s temporary Port of Los Angeles facility, unambiguous evidence that SpaceX is continuing to rapidly fabricate major components of its next-generation rocket.

    Speaking at a dedicated BFR update event in mid-September, CEO Elon Musk foreshadowed as much, and recent updates have reiterated just how committed SpaceX is to BFR and just how keen the company is to waste no time at all.
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    “We’ve built the first cylinder section…and we’ll be building the domes and the engine section soon.” – SpaceX CEO Elon Musk, September 2018

    See the pictures:
    https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-bfr...ete-hop-tests/


    SpaceX Not Planning to Upgrade Falcon 9 Second Stage
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    “SpaceX is no longer planning to upgrade Falcon 9 second stage for reusability,” Tesla’s Elon Musk said in a tweet Saturday.

    Musk says he’s accelerating the Big Falcon Rocket instead and calls the new design “very exciting!” and “delightfully counter-intuitive.”
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    Btw, SpaceX is no longer planning to upgrade Falcon 9 second stage for reusability. Accelerating BFR instead. New design is very exciting! Delightfully counter-intuitive.
    — Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 17, 2018

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...s-to-speed-bfr


    Goodbye, BFR … hello, Starship: Elon Musk gives a classic name to his Mars spaceship
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    First it was the Mars Colonial Transporter, or MCT … then it was the Interplanetary Transport System, or ITS … then it was the Big Falcon Rocket, or BFR. Now it’s Starship.

    Tonight SpaceX CEO Elon Musk announced the latest name for the spaceship that he says SpaceX aims to use to deliver a million people to Mars, send a Japanese billionaire and an assortment of artists around the moon and back, carry passengers on supersonic trips around the globe, and basically do everything big that needs to be done in space.

    https://www.geekwire.com/2018/goodby...ars-spaceship/


    Musk renames BFR
    https://behindtheblack.com/behind-th...k-renames-bfr/


    Big Falcon Rocket
    https://www.humanmars.net/p/big-falcon-rocket.html
    Vacuum Technology:
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    SpaceX files FCC communications permit for its VTVL vehicle at South Texas site.
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    SpaceX has applied for FCC permission to communicate with the Starship dev article (or whatever you want to call that thing they're going to test in Boca Chica).

    https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comm...ermit_for_its/


    Description of Research Project
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    SpaceX is looking to fly and operate a Research and Development (R&D) Vertical Takeoff, Vertical Landing (VTVL) vehicle atits South Texaslocation.

    https://apps.fcc.gov/els/GetAtt.html?id=220118&x=


    SpaceX seeks licenses for BFR spaceship prototype hop test campaign
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    Recent filings confirm that SpaceX has begun the process of applying for permits and licenses that will eventually allow the company to legally conduct hop and flight tests of a BFR spaceship prototype at its prospective South Texas development facilities.

    While the FAA’s Office of Commercial Space Transportation does not provide public access to pending applications, the FCC’s Experimental Licensing System published a summary of SpaceX’s request, briefly describing a series tests to be performed with a “Vertical Takeoff, Vertical Landing (VTVL) vehicle” in the near future.


    SpaceX recently began erecting a large and sturdy tent adjacent to its South Texas test facilities, likely intended to serve as a base of operations when BFR prototype hardware begins to arrive. (NASASpaceflight /u/nomadd)

    While official plans to perform Grasshopper-style hop tests with a full-scale prototype of the BFR’s upper stage – known as BFS (Big Falcon Spaceship) – have been public knowledge in some form for over a year, SpaceX’s short description of the initially planned hop test activities offers a much more accurate view of the actual scope of those tests.

    Most notably, SpaceX describes a campaign “divided into low‐altitude and higher‐altitude tests” that range from a ceiling of 500m (~1650 ft) to 5000m (~16,500 ft) and an overall length of ~100 to 360 seconds (1.5 to 6 minutes).

    https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-lic...test-campaign/

    Groundwork and licensing begins for first test flights of SpaceX’s Starship
    https://behindtheblack.com/behind-th...cexs-starship/


    SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System (updates)
    https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1...dates/page/16/


    SpaceX CEO Elon Musk sees 70% chance he'll go to Mars
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dfg1n7Lh62Q

    ... more 'what-are-they-up-to' in South Texas today.
    https://twitter.com/CowboyDanPaasch/...50734900559872

    ... the silo looking thing appears to have acquired appendages.
    https://twitter.com/CowboyDanPaasch/...732481/photo/1

    ... they appear to be multiplying today.
    https://twitter.com/CowboyDanPaasch/...394625/photo/1

    Different angle. Another BCGal shot.
    https://twitter.com/CowboyDanPaasch/...853254/photo/1

    ... latest 'what-are-they-up-to' in South Texas today.
    https://twitter.com/CowboyDanPaasch/...535424/photo/1


    Scenery Changing at Boca Chica SpaceX Site
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    BOCA CHICA – The scenery is changing at the Boca Chica SpaceX site.

    In October, we told you about the re-purposing of dirt in order to stabilize the ground for the future launch pad; some new features have now been added.

    A white dome has been put up, as well as a giant metal cylinder.

    KRGV’s Daisy Martinez has the details.

    Watch the video above for more information.

    https://www.krgv.com/news/scenery-ch...a-spacex-site/


    SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates -
    https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/in...?topic=47001.0


    Handheld Laser welding machine for stainless steel
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WZYjraXUtQ

    Our superalloy foundry is now almost fully operational. This allows rapid iteration on Raptor.
    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/...rc=twsrc%5Etfw

    SpaceX metallurgy team developed SX500 superalloy for 12000 psi, hot oxygen-rich gas. It was hard. Almost any metal turns into a flare in those conditions.
    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1076684059827302400

    DARPA's Spaceplane: an X-33 version, Page 2.
    About composites and alloys
    https://exoscientist.blog...zzzzzzzz...on-page-2.html
    Take out the 3dot-z-3dot sequence
    (That B-word attracts too many flies.)

    Yup. Actually, the only significant design element in common with early Atlas is stainless steel & we’re using a different alloy mix. I super ♥️ 300 Series Stainless!
    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/...rc=twsrc%5Etfw

    This test hopper is at full body diameter of 9m / 30 ft, just not full height. Super Heavy will be full height & diameter.
    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/...rc=twsrc%5Etfw

    SPACEX STARSHIP HOPPER UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT BOCA CHICA TEXAS! (First look)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHGlw9H_OaI
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    In today's 'what-are-they-up-to' in South Texas. Moving the you-know-what out from cover.
    https://twitter.com/CowboyDanPaasch/...286592/photo/1

    ... night work lights just went up at #SpX's Boca Chica #TEXAS build site.
    https://twitter.com/CowboyDanPaasch/...110400/photo/1

    NSF Photo
    https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/in...=1535443;image

    Stainless Steel Starship Night Photo
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DvKmsU1V4AE9Xqr.jpg

    Stainless Steel Starship
    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1077106553189093376

    Stainless Steel Starship
    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1077111607564464129

    SpaceX's Shiny Stainless Steel Starship

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoegqRJKGE8


    Monday sunrise on Boca Chica Texas.
    https://twitter.com/CowboyDanPaasch/...514624/photo/1

    Caught this huge piece of stainless steel leaving factory last weekend... Is it part of the Stainless Rocket?
    https://twitter.com/Thinkbiz/status/...236608/photo/1

    Looks like @ElonMusk is building a "stainless steel starship" in the desert ....
    https://twitter.com/NASAWatch/status...51499103846403

    Starship will look like liquid silver
    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1077346382359322625

    Leeward side needs nothing, windward side will be activity cooled with residual (cryo) liquid methane, so will appear liquid silver even on hot side
    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1077353613997920257

    Developing the BFS - Phase 1 Big Falcon Hopper
    https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/in...opic=47022.180


    Elon Musk tweets photo of SpaceX’s ‘test hopper,’ says could launch by March
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    Out of all the things SpaceX CEO Elon Musk is promoting lately, the most grandiose is a vision that involves planet-hopping spacecrafts to Mars and beyond. Now a first look at a prototype of the spacecraft intended for such purposes has been revealed.

    https://www.dailybreeze.com/2018/12/...unch-by-march/
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    Musk tweets peek at Starship hopper
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    Elon Musk this week tweeted an image of the Starship test hopper, adding that they hope to begin test flights by March.

    “This test hopper is at full body diameter of 9m / 30 ft, just not full height. Super Heavy will be full height & diameter,” Musk tweeted, indicating that the company will go directly to building a full-scale version of the rocket booster, rather than a truncated test version.

    It seems to me that Musk continues to embarrass all other rocket companies, both private and governmental, with his effective use of current technology to innovate and produce new designs. While everyone else seems locked into building the same old things, his company is using what it knows to try to build something smarter and more efficient.

    SpaceX’s track record suggests that it will do exactly what it is trying to do, even if it likely takes longer than they predict. Others should take heed, or they will all get left behind.

    See the comments:
    https://behindtheblack.com/behind-th...arship-hopper/


    ... leg into body, fuller frame crop.
    https://twitter.com/CowboyDanPaasch/...118528/photo/1

    Appears we have a mating.
    https://twitter.com/CowboyDanPaasch/...945152/photo/1

    Developing the BFS - Phase 1 Big Falcon Hopper (BFH)
    https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/in...=47022.420#top

    This will certainly be a sight to see!! Starship in orbit!
    https://twitter.com/AstroReeseW/stat...867841/photo/1

    ... Saturday afternoon in Boca Chica TX.
    https://twitter.com/CowboyDanPaasch/...151873/photo/1

    ... South Texas Saturday night shift.
    https://twitter.com/CowboyDanPaasch/...279296/photo/1

    Well, I'll be. They took #GrasshopperII off her weld stand tonite.
    https://twitter.com/CowboyDanPaasch/...076997/photo/1

    Envisioning SpaceX's Starship inside the Horizontal Integration Facility at Pad 39A in not so distant future.
    https://twitter.com/jdeshetler/statu...369984/photo/1

    Rocket Prototype Takes Shape at SpaceX Site
    https://www.krgv.com/videos/rocket-p...t-spacex-site/


    SpaceX’s Starship prototype proceeds at breakneck pace towards hop tests
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    Well illustrated by recent drone photos of SpaceX’s up-and-coming Boca Chica, Texas facilities, dozens of SpaceXers and local contractors have congregated at the company’s Starship prototype work site over the last few weeks, progressing it from an empty tent and a collection of parts to a handful of large assemblies for what appears to be the first full-scale Starship hopper.

    https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-sta...ace-hop-tests/
    Vacuum Technology:
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    Change your vacuum pump oil now.

    Test. Testing, 1,2,3.

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    Chilly & wet in Boca, today.
    https://twitter.com/CowboyDanPaasch/...616960/photo/1

    @SpaceX is taking advantage of this nice day and getting work done.
    https://twitter.com/austinbarnard45/...691970/photo/1

    #BocaChica: Wings!
    https://twitter.com/cowboydanpaasch/...68414959374338


    SpaceX’s Starship hopper spotted with trio of dual-bell Raptor engines
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    Following a brief ‘hop’ (via crane) off of a concrete build stand, the aft section of SpaceX’s first full-scale Starship hopper (Starhopper?) revealed that SpaceX technicians have already installed what appear to be three real Raptor engines, presumably the first time the propulsion system has ever been mounted to something that might eventually fly.

    https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-sta...r-engine-trio/

    That didn't take long.
    https://twitter.com/CowboyDanPaasch/...060352/photo/1

    What's Going On With SpaceX's Stainless Steel Starship?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVgEKBwE2RM

    ^See the comments.


    An earlier version of @ElonMusk's Starship.
    https://twitter.com/NASAWatch/status...528321/photo/1

    A quiet day as #SpaceX workers were having lunch
    https://twitter.com/austinbarnard45/...14650791264256

    A picture suitable for framing:
    Camp BFS, last night.
    https://twitter.com/CowboyDanPaasch/...860673/photo/1

    SpaceX's Big Falcon Hopper/Starship Hopper at Boca Chica now has the three sections mated:
    https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/...887169/photo/1


    Here’s why Elon Musk is tweeting constantly about a stainless-steel starship
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    Eleven months ago—just after SpaceX astonished the world by launching and landing its titanic Falcon Heavy rocket while beaming back images of a red Tesla leaving Earth orbit—company founder Elon Musk had already begun to look beyond the moment.

    The Falcon Heavy was a big, capable rocket. But it wasn't large enough to fulfill his aspirations of reaching Mars. Neither did the company have a spacecraft capable of landing there. "They really need to be way bigger than that," Musk said of the Falcon Heavy rocket at the time. Moreover, he noted that the launch in early February 2018 had confirmed the company's ability to model rocket launches on computers. "It gives me a lot of faith for our next architecture. It gives me confidence that BFR is really quite workable."
    ...
    Since December 22, Musk has tweeted about the Starship vehicle more than two dozen times. Among the details that can be gleaned from those tweets:

    • The vehicle's exterior will be made from a stainless-steel alloy that will not buckle and will remain stable on the launchpad even when unpressurized. The strength and weight of "full hard stainless" at cold temperatures is slightly better than carbon fiber, at room temperature it is worse, and at high temperature it is vastly better.
    • The metallic skin of Starship will get too hot for paint, so it will have a stainless mirror finish. It will need much less shielding as a result, and areas that take the brunt of atmospheric entry heating will be activity cooled with residual liquid methane. As a result, "Starship will look like liquid silver."
    • A "radically redesigned" Raptor engine will be ready for test firing early this year. This is the engine that will power both the first stage "Super Heavy" as well as the Starship. For the test hopper, there will be three Raptor engines (there will be seven on the full Starship). Engines currently on the vehicle are essentially mock-ups. The first engine for hopper test flights "is almost finished assembly in California."
    • SpaceX developed a "superalloy" to withstand the incredible pressures inside the Raptor engine and its hot, oxygen-rich gas. "Our superalloy foundry is now almost fully operational. This allows rapid iteration on Raptor."
    • Musk expects the first hopper tests to occur in March or April of this year, sooner than expected. "I will do a full technical presentation of Starship after the test vehicle we're building in Texas flies."
    • Musk believes a single-stage-to-orbit launch from Earth is "pointless." A large booster is needed to escape Earth's gravity well if one wants a decent-sized payload. But the single-stage Starship alone is great for launching from Mars and the moons of the Solar System.

    https://arstechnica.com/science/2019...-his-starship/


    SpaceX’s Starship reaches new heights as Elon Musk teases Q1 2019 hop tests
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    In a burst of activity that should probably be expected at this point but still feels like a complete surprise, SpaceX technicians took a major step towards completing the first Starship hopper prototype by combining the last two remaining sections (aft and nose) scarcely six weeks after assembly began.

    https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-sta...op-test-debut/


    SpaceX completes fit test of two sections of Starship hopper
    https://behindtheblack.com/behind-th...arship-hopper/

    “It just isn’t done that way. Rockets aren’t built in fields!” “It must be a mockup. Nothing can be thrown together that fast!”
    https://twitter.com/GoForStaging/sta...464704/photo/1

    Unknown sub-assembly coming together.
    https://twitter.com/CowboyDanPaasch/...522688/photo/1

    I just made up this size comparison image with the Space Shuttle Orbiter.
    https://twitter.com/RogerLewisHolt/s...031233/photo/1

    The Join is complete , no crane!
    https://twitter.com/RogerLewisHolt/s...719810/photo/1

    Why SpaceX’s StarHopper will never go to space
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM6WqjJCKQo
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    There’s a good chance the hopper will hop it’s last this afternoon (5:00 PM EST)

    https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-sta...test-approved/

    You can watch it live from the link above or with Tim here..... https://youtu.be/Fblo3vzsOo4

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    I think SpaceX is playing a video of the past (2) launch events in case you tune in to their channel right now....
    Eric

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    See also

    Live! 24/7 SpaceX Boca Chica Complex

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8CSgRpPT0o

    Check out the multiview cams by clicking on the attache case with the double arrow.

    Expect launch attempt at 6PM EDT.


    Looks like launch will be late because there is no sign of venting, which indicates fueling.
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    Here's the SpaceX web cam:

    150 Meter Starhopper Test

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jhjyz183poo
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    ^My bad. That was the SpaceX video of yesterday's webcast of the aborted Starhopper launch.

    Here's the SpaceX video of today's successful Starhopper launch. Looks like the Raptor methane engine performed well.

    150 Meter Starhopper Test

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYb3bfA6_sQ

    See also:

    Incredible: SpaceX Starhopper test flight launch!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfukfk_wVZM
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    What is the Starhopper? What's the deal?

    SpaceX Starhopper Prepares for 200m Hop Test Flight [August 15, 2019]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfpJebvlHoo
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    Back to January 2019



    SpaceX CEO Elon Musk says first orbital Starship prototype will be done by June
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    SpaceX CEO Elon Musk says that the company’s first Starship prototype – a low-fidelity hop test vehicle – has finished assembly in South Texas, paving the way towards a series of experimental vertical take-off or landing (VTOL) hop tests that could begin as early as February or March 2019.

    One step beyond the prototype currently rising out of the coastal Texas wetlands, Musk also indicated that the first orbital Starship prototype – essentially the spacecraft’s first full-fidelity test article – could be completed as early as June 2019, a truly extraordinary pace of development for a program as complex and cutting-edge as BFR.
    .
    Starship test flight rocket just finished assembly at the @SpaceX Texas launch site. This is an actual picture, not a rendering. pic.twitter.com/k1HkueoXaz

    — Elon Musk (@elonmusk) January 11, 2019


    STARHOPPER RISING

    Barely six weeks after work began on the massive Starship prototype, SpaceX’s Starhopper appears to have grown to its full ~40m (~130 ft) height in South Texas. Following a preliminary fit test on Tuesday, January 8th, workers made a second attempt on Wednesday and completed the final attachment of Starhopper’s upper and lower halves. Intriguingly, no time was wasted spot-welding the halves together after their successful docking, and an additional sheet of stainless steel has been welded over the seam in the hours since then.

    However, what looks like 9m-diameter (~30 ft) steel tank domes are being assembled and welded together....

    Read the rest and see the pictures:
    https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-elo...-done-by-june/


    Starship test flight rocket just finished assembly at the @SpaceX Texas launch site. This is an actual picture, not a rendering.
    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/...964160/photo/1

    SpaceX first Starship hopper under Texas Boca Chica Beach's cloudy sky.
    https://twitter.com/JaneidyEve/statu...048068/video/1

    Starship and Super Heavy: SpaceX's Mars-Colonizing Vehicles in Images
    https://www.space.com/38315-spacex-m...fr-images.html


    Elon Musk says SpaceX has assembled Starship test rocket with shiny, retro look
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    For weeks, photographers have been snapping pictures of a retro-looking, shiny stainless-steel rocket that’s been taking shape at SpaceX’s launch site in South Texas — and tonight, SpaceX CEO Elon Musk declared that assembly of the first Starship short-hop test rocket is complete.

    https://www.geekwire.com/2019/elon-m...ny-retro-look/

    SpaceX reveals picture of fully assembled suborbital Starship hopper
    https://behindtheblack.com/behind-th...arship-hopper/

    Starship Hopper Test Rocket.
    https://twitter.com/RGVaerialphotos/...264768/photo/1

    Space X Boca Chica Site - RGV Aerial Photography

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evPc3jhFGzI

    Assembly of Starship Test Flight Rocket Complete
    https://www.krgv.com/news/assembly-o...cket-complete/

    SpaceX BFS - Phase 1 - StarHopper - Photos and Updates
    https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/in...topic=47120.60

    SpaceX gearing up for Starship tests at Boca Chica
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    At the southern tip of Texas, SpaceX is preparing to begin testing their interplanetary spacecraft. The first Starship test vehicle, dubbed Starhopper, is in advanced stages of construction, and SpaceX facilities at Boca Chica and McGregor are preparing to support a flight test program beginning this year.

    The new South Texas Launch Site was originally intended to be a third launch facility for SpaceX’s Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy vehicles, in addition to Cape Canaveral, Florida and Vandenberg Air Force Base, California.

    While current plans now focus on the Starship and Super Heavy vehicles, the layout of the launch site appears to be largely unchanged. A building permit reading “operational hopper pad for rocket launches” is posted at the location of the originally proposed launch pad.

    Read the rest and see the pictures:
    https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2019...ts-boca-chica/

    More updates from SpaceX’s Boca Chica launch site
    https://behindtheblack.com/behind-th...a-launch-site/


    SpaceX BFS - Phase 1 - StarHopper - Photos and Updates
    https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/in...947#msg1902947

    SpaceX BFS - Phase 1 - StarHopper - Photos and Updates
    https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/in...545#msg1901545

    Starship Hopper has been taken apart again (for the installation of the bulkhead etc.)
    https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/...901250/photo/1


    In blow to Los Angeles, SpaceX is moving some Mars spaceship and booster work to Texas
    Jan. 16, 2019
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    In a reversal of a deal local officials had touted as a win for Los Angeles tech, SpaceX will no longer build its Mars spaceship and rocket booster system at the Port of Los Angeles. Instead, work to build and test the prototype will be done in south Texas.

    SpaceX said in a statement Wednesday that the decision was made to “streamline operations.”

    In a tweet, Chief Executive Elon Musk said: “Starship & Raptor [engine] development is being done out of our HQ in Hawthorne, CA. We are building the Starship prototypes locally at our launch site in Texas, as their size makes them very difficult to transport.”

    https://www.latimes.com/business/la-...116-story.html

    SpaceX to build Mars ships in Texas, not Los Angeles
    https://www.krgv.com/news/space-x-to...t-los-angeles/


    SpaceX to shift Starship work from California to Texas
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    WASHINGTON — Less than a week after laying off 10 percent of its employees, SpaceX said Jan. 16 that it plans to shift work on at least prototypes of its next-generation launch system from Los Angeles to Texas.

    In a statement, SpaceX said it was now planning to build prototypes of its Starship vehicle, the upper stage of its next-generation reusable launch system, at its site in South Texas originally designed to serve as a launch site. An initial prototype version of that vehicle has been taking shape in recent weeks at the site in advance of “hopper” tests that could begin in the next one to two months.

    “To streamline operations, SpaceX is developing and will test the Starship test vehicle at our site in South Texas,” company spokesperson Eva Behrend said in an emailed statement. The news was first reported by the Los Angeles Times after a pair of tweets early Jan. 16 from Joe Buscaino, a member of the Los Angeles City Council whose district includes the Port of Los Angeles.

    “While I feel crushed about #SpaceX pulling the #SuperHeavy out of the @PortofLA, I feel confident that other innovators will see the huge value they get in San Pedro,” he wrote. Super Heavy is the name SpaceX recently gave to the lower stage of the overall launch system that previously had the formal name of Big Falcon Rocket, or BFR. The upper stage was renamed Starship.

    Read the rest:
    https://spacenews.com/spacex-to-shif...rnia-to-texas/

    SpaceX shifts some Starship/Super Heavy construction to Texas
    https://behindtheblack.com/behind-th...tion-to-texas/


    Second fuel storage tank being set today at anticipated Hopper test/launch pad construction area
    https://twitter.com/CowboyDanPaasch/...538182/photo/1


    SpaceX separates Starship prototype’s nose and tail to install giant propellant tanks
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    After a handful of days as an impressive monolith stood along the coastal wetlands of Texas, SpaceX technicians have once again separated the nose and tail sections of the first Starship prototype to allow additional integration and assembly work to continue. The craft’s three Raptors were also removed and stored nearby, shown to be barebones facsimiles standing in for flightworthy hardware that could arrive in the next month or two.

    Up next, three or four propellant tank domes – currently being assembled and welded together on-site – will likely be installed inside the steel hull of the giant Starship prototype’s aft barrel section. Known as bulkheads, the installation of those tank domes will bring SpaceX one step closer to performing hop tests of the simultaneously bizarre, confusing, and beautiful craft.

    Read the rest:
    https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-sta...-tank-install/


    The Evolution of the Big Falcon Hopper (BFH) Pictorial
    https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/in...237#msg1903237
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    Why the Starship is Built of Stainless Steel
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    So SpaceX is making a huge rocket out of stainless steel. As far as we know, this marks the first time the material has been used in spacecraft construction since some early, ill-fated attempts during the Atlas program in the late 1950s.

    We know he is doing this because, after weeks of rumors about a tweak to the design, a few days before Christmas Musk revealed that there would be much more than a tweak. The state-of-the-art carbon fiber forming the body of the Starship rocket (formerly known as the BFR, or Big Falcon Rocket, or Big F-other-word Rocket) and its Super Heavy booster would be replaced by 300-series stainless.
    .
    Starship test flight rocket just finished assembly at the @SpaceX Texas launch site. This is an actual picture, not a rendering. pic.twitter.com/k1HkueoXaz
    — Elon Musk (@elonmusk) January 11, 2019

    On January 10, Musk tweeted a photograph of a test version of Starship—essentially a prototype that can be used for suborbital VTOL (vertical takeoff and landing) test flights, reaching around 16,400 feet. He is calling these “hops.”

    Since the quasi-unveiling, Musk has briefly answered some direct questions from the curious space-watchers of cyberspace via Twitter. But two weeks before the announcement he sat down with Popular Mechanics editor in chief Ryan D’Agostino at SpaceX headquarters in Hawthorne, California, for an exclusive interview in which he discussed, in great detail, the thinking behind the change. He talked about a lot more than that—we’ll be bringing you more soon. For now, here’s what he said about the big change.

    https://www.popularmechanics.com/spa...ainless-steel/


    SpaceX fits Starship prototype with tank bulkheads as hop test pad progresses
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    SpaceX workers have begun installing fuel and oxidizer tank bulkheads inside the first BFS/Starship prototype at the same time as the vehicle’s nearby ‘launch’ facility continues to sprout important infrastructure and slowly morph from a giant pile of dirt into something capable of supporting rocket hop tests.

    https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-sta...-pad-progress/


    50 mph winds blow off the top of new SpaceX rocket
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    SpaceX’s shiny new rocket got blown over in Texas.

    CEO Elon Musk confirmed that 50 mph winds broke the mooring blocks of the Starship Hopper test rocket late Tuesday and the fairing was blown over.

    “Will take a few weeks to repair,” Musk said in a tweet.

    The fairing is the top portion of the rocket, which on normal launches would hold the payload. The bottom portion of the rocket was undamaged, Musk said.
    .
    Bottom half of SpaceX "starship" prototype bolted down to pad and still standing. Detached top half heavily damaged. Looks like you need a hurricane-proof building to do this work in Texas. Sets back project a few months. Photo credit: NSF BocaChicaGal. pic.twitter.com/FW4ERg0hJl
    — Bruce Perens K6BP (@BrucePerens) January 23, 2019

    The rocket was rolled out earlier in January at the company’s Boca Chica, Texas launch site. The Starship Hopper will eventually perform suborbital vertical take-off and landing tests similar to how the company tested a Falcon 9 rocket called the Grasshopper in 2012.

    https://www.orlandosentinel.com/spac...123-story.html

    Nosecone Damage

    https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/in...507#msg1904507

    STARSHIP NOSE CONE DESTROYED IN WINDSTORM - Repairs to take only a few weeks
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_m1o8sfjsY
    (Can't see much.)

    Upper half of Starship hopper blown over by winds
    https://behindtheblack.com/behind-th...over-by-winds/


    SpaceX CEO Elon Musk explains Starship’s ‘transpiring’ steel heat shield in Q&A
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    Speaking in a late-December 2018 interview with Popular Mechanics’ editor-in-chief, SpaceX CEO Elon Musk shared considerable insight into the thought processes that ultimately led him to – in his own words – “convince” his team that the company’s BFR rocket (now Starship and Super Heavy) should pivot from an advanced composite structure to a relatively common form of stainless steel.

    Aside from steel’s relative ease of manipulation and affordability, Musk delved into the technical solution he arrived at for an advanced, ultra-reusable heat shield for Starship – build it out of steel and use water (or liquid methane) to wick reentry heat away.
    .
    When going to ~1750 Kelvin, specific heat is more important than latent heat of vaporization, which is why cryogenic fuel is a slightly better choice than water

    — Elon Musk (@elonmusk) January 22, 2019

    https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-ceo...eld-interview/


    Bulkhead on!


    https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/in...088#msg1905088


    SpaceX CEO Elon Musk teases white-hot Starship heat shield testing in video
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    SpaceX CEO Elon Musk has shared a video showing what looks to be the early stages of testing for Starship’s (BFS) unprecedented metallic heat shield, recently described as a double-layered steel sandwich that will be regeneratively cooled by cryogenic liquid methane.
    .
    Testing metallic heat shield at 1100C (2000F) @SpaceX pic.twitter.com/frP5eZ5a0z

    — Elon Musk (@elonmusk) January 25, 2019

    https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-ceo...testing-video/


    SpaceX workers cap Starship with tank dome as Raptor arrivals and hop tests near
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    SpaceX employees and local contractors continue to outfit the aft section of the first full-scale BFR prototype with a variety of important components, recently culminating in the installation of the Starship hopper’s top propellant tank dome,

    Critical to the arrival and installation of its Raptor engines and the craft’s first hop tests, this work continues despite the premature demise of Starhopper’s apparently fragile nose cone (fairing), toppled on January 22nd when fairly mild winds of around 50 mph (80 km/h) encountered the shoddy rigging meant to keep the huge but lightweight hardware on its concrete stand.

    https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-sta...econe-setback/


    Why SpaceX ditched lightweight Carbon Composites for Stainless Steel to make a sweaty Starship
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LogE40_wR9k


    SpaceX CEO Elon Musk reveals photos of Starship’s first completed Raptor engine
    .


    Shortly after Teslarati reported that the first operationalized Raptor had shipped to McGregor, Texas for its first full-scale static fire tests, SpaceX CEO Elon Musk took to Twitter to post the first official photos of the “radically redesigned” engine preparing for its critical debut test fire in Texas.

    Designed with extreme reliability, efficiency, and reusability in mind, the Raptor seen in Musk’s photos is rated for just shy of 2.5 times the thrust of Merlin 1D at 200 tons (450,000 lbf) and has been commonized across both stages of BFR (Starship and Super Heavy) to spread out development costs and speed up the next-generation rocket’s orbital launch debut.

    https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-ceo...raptor-engine/


    SpaceX sends “radically redesigned” Starship engine to Texas for hot-fire tests
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    SpaceX has shipped one of the first of a group of Starship engines known as Raptor, described last month by CEO Elon Musk as “radically redesigned”. A culmination of more than 24 months of prototype testing, the first flight-worthy Raptor could be ignited for the first time as early as February.

    According to Musk, three of these redesigned Raptors will power the first full-scale BFR prototype, a Starship (upper stage) test article meant to conduct relatively low-altitude, low-velocity hop tests over the southern tip of Texas. Those tests could also begin next month, although a debut sometime in March or April is increasingly likely.

    https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-rad...-fire-testing/


    SpaceX CEO Elon Musk arrives in Texas for milestone Starship engine test
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    On Saturday evening, SpaceX CEO Elon Musk landed in Waco, Texas – perhaps along with additional SpaceX propulsion engineers – for the critical static fire debut of the first “radically redesigned” Raptor engine, built to power BFR’s Starship upper stage and Super Heavy booster.

    If the first operationalized Raptor’s static fire tests go well, there are several possible routes the test program could take, all of which will end up with this engine and several others being tested and ultimately installed on the Starship hopper (Starhopper) prototype under construction roughly 500 miles (800 km) south of SpaceX’s Raptor test cell.

    https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-ceo...p-engine-test/


    SpaceX Super Heavy and Starship updates
    https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1...pdates/page/9/


    SpaceX’s first redesigned Raptor static fire paves the way for Starship’s hop test debut
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    After years of development, multiple prototypes constructed, and more than 1200 seconds of cumulative static fire testing at durations longer than what is needed to land on Mars, SpaceX propulsion engineers and technicians have successfully built and static-fired the first flight-worthy Raptor for the first time ever.

    This is an incredibly important step towards BFR (Starship/Super Heavy) launch operations and is even more directly encouraging for the first integrated hop tests of SpaceX’s Starship prototype (unofficially deemed Starhopper), which could very well be the next host of the pathfinder Raptor engine pictured below.

    https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-suc...-hopper-debut/


    Elon Musk Unveils SpaceX's 1st Rocket Engine Test for Starship Rocket (Video)
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    SpaceX just took another step toward Mars.

    The company has test-fired the flight version of its new Raptor rocket engine for the first time, SpaceX founder and CEO Elon Musk announced yesterday (Feb. 3).

    "First firing of Starship Raptor flight engine! So proud of great work by @SpaceX team!!" Musk said via Twitter. [Images: SpaceX's Giant Spaceship for Mars Colony & Beyond]

    The billionaire entrepreneur also tweeted out several videos of the 3-second test, which took place at the company's development facility in McGregor, Texas.

    https://www.space.com/43218-spacex-r...est-video.html


    SpaceX Starship's Raptor Flight Engine Test-Fired For First Time
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl2i...ature=youtu.be
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    Check out Raptor and Merlin engine specifications, among others.

    Comparison of orbital rocket engines
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compar...rocket_engines

    Raptor (rocket engine family)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raptor...engine_family)

    Rocket engines of SpaceX
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket_engines_of_SpaceX


    SpaceX test fires next generation rocket engine
    https://behindtheblack.com/behind-th...rocket-engine/


    SpaceX’s Starship prototype is looking increasingly rocket-like as hop test pad expands
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    As SpaceX’s South Texas operations continue full steam ahead in pursuit of the first integrated hop tests of a full-scale Starship prototype, the company’s Starhopper and its complementary launch/hop pad are dramatically and visibly evolving on a daily basis.

    This week’s progress has been signified by the installation of familiar rocket hardware on the Ship and a burst of construction – centered around pipelaying, plumbing, foundation work, and berm-building – at its pad. Just a few hundred miles north of Boca Chica, SpaceX’s team of propulsion engineers and technicians reached their own dramatic milestone, conducting the first static fire of a finalized version of the Raptor engine set to power Starship and Super Heavy (formerly BFR).

    https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-sta...pad-expansion/


    Raptor fired at power level needed for Starship, Super Heavy
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    SpaceX’s first Raptor flight engine performed another test fire, this time increasing its force and chamber pressure to required levels for the company’s giant next-generation rocket.

    Raptor was moved to a test stand at SpaceX’s McGregor, Texas, facility late last month and fired for the first time on the evening of Feb. 3, 2019. Now, less than a week later, company founder and CEO Elon Musk tweeted that another test took place.

    “Raptor just achieved power level needed for Starship [and] Super Heavy,” Musk tweeted just after 3 a.m. EST (08:00 GMT) Feb. 7.

    Musk did not say how long the test was or if it was at full power. The Feb. 3 burn was only about two seconds and at about 60 percent power. However, he said the latter test reached a chamber pressure of 257 bar, or about 3,700 pounds per square inch, and an estimated force of about 172 metric tons with “warm propellant.”

    The Starship and Super Heavy design requires at least 170 metric tons, Musk said, and added that with deep cryogenic propellant, another 10-20 percent performance could be achieved.

    For comparison, each of the nine kerosene and liquid oxygen-consuming Merlin 1D engines used at the base of the Falcon 9 rocket’s first stage produce about 86 metric tons of thrust.

    https://www.spaceflightinsider.com/o...p-super-heavy/


    SpaceX’s Starship engine hits twice the thrust of Merlin just days after test debut
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    SpaceX CEO Elon Musk says that the company’s Raptor engine – static-fired for the first time at full scale barely four days ago – has been successfully fired at roughly 90% max thrust, briefly producing more than twice the force of one of Falcon 9’s Merlin 1D engines.

    Relying on SpaceX’s McGregor, Texas test facilities for its testing, Raptor was being fed with propellant significantly warmer than the supercool liquid methane and oxygen it was nominally designed to use. Even still, the 172 tons (380,000 lbf) of thrust it produced is apparently already enough to satisfy the design requirements of Starship and Super Heavy, and Musk believes that with properly cooled propellant, the same Raptor engine could produce more than 200 tons of thrust at full throttle.

    Design requires at least 170 metric tons of force. Engine reached 172 mT & 257 bar chamber pressure with warm propellant, which means 10% to 20% more with deep cryo.

    — Elon Musk (@elonmusk) February 7, 2019

    Following a presumably successful inaugural test fire on February 3rd, SpaceX added some rare technical insight to Raptor’s performance, stating that it had “hit 170 bar [in the combustion chamber] and [produced] ~116 metric tons” of thrust while operating at “60% power.” Suggesting that Raptor has already met certain design expectations less than 100 hours into integrated hot-fire testing, Musk’s technical update indicates that the engine may already be operating (more or less) as expected at something approximating full throttle.

    Even for SpaceX, the speed of progression demonstrated thus far by SpaceX’s Raptor propulsion team is almost unbelievable in the context of just how utterly different the engine is from anything SpaceX is familiar with, let alone the field of liquid rocket propulsion as a whole. As long as the company is not consciously taking major risks or cutting corners with such an expedited test program, it’s safe to conclude that the data Raptor’s has produced with its first several tests is extremely encouraging, verifying that the engine is likely behaving almost exactly as expected from an engineering perspective. As a result, the engine’s testing jumped from 60% power to the equivalent of full-throttle (with off-nominal propellant temperatures) in four days.

    https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-sta...er-test-debut/


    SpaceX ramps up Raptor engine tests
    https://behindtheblack.com/behind-th...-engine-tests/


    SpaceX’s Starship engine breaks Russian rocketry record held for two decades


    SpaceX CEO Elon Musk says the company’s Raptor engine, meant to power Starship and Super Heavy, has surpassed a rocketry record held by Russian scientists and engineers for more than two decades.

    Known as combustion chamber pressure, Raptor has reportedly surpassed a modern Russian engine known as the RD-180, reaching forces equivalent to one Tesla Model 3 balanced on every square inch of Raptor’s combustion chamber, the hardware directly adjacent to a rocket engine’s bell-shaped nozzle.

    https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-sta...y-test-series/


    SpaceX’s new Raptor engine: The world’s most powerful?
    https://behindtheblack.com/behind-th...most-powerful/


    3D-printed Mars habitat could be a perfect fit for early SpaceX Starship colonies

    Space architecture startup AI SpaceFactory achieved second place in the latest phase of a NASA-led competition, pitting several groups against each other in pursuit of designing a 3D-printed Mars habitat and physically demonstrating some of the technologies needed to build them.

    With a focus on ease of scalable 3D-printing and inhabitants’ quality of life, as well as the use of modular imported goods like windows and airlocks, MARSHA lends itself impeccably well to SpaceX’s goal of developing a sustainable human presence on Mars as quickly, safely, and affordably as possible with the support of its Starship/Super Heavy launch vehicle.

    https://www.teslarati.com/3d-printed...ship-colonies/


    SpaceX Starship and The Von Braun Rotating Space Station

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTNP01Sg-Ss
    Vacuum Technology:
    CRUD = Contamination Resulting in Undesirable Deposits.
    CRAPP = Contamination Resulting in Additional Partial Pressure.

    Change your vacuum pump oil now.

    Test. Testing, 1,2,3.

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    SpaceX prepares to eat its young
    by Dick Eagleson - October 2, 2017
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    Where I was seated, it was 9:40 pm Pacific time Thursday when Elon Musk began his latest presentation about “Becoming a Multi-Planetary Species” at the International Astronautical Conference in Adelaide, Australia. Having now subsequently read several reports about the event in the press, here are my thoughts on The Meaning Of It All. I've done my best not to repeat what others have said elsewhere.

    The most surprising thing, to me, was the flat declaration by Musk that SpaceX's entire current—and imminent—product line is now on track to be sunsetted in an orderly fashion over the next few years. The only comparable example of corporate autophagy I can recall was Apple's move from its established Apple II line to mice, windows, and icons with the Lisa and Macintosh.

    https://www.thespacereview.com/article/3339/1


    Metal Asteroid Hurtling Through Space Could Wipe Out...U.S. Debt!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1KLPVVtNmc


    SpaceX job posts confirm Starship’s Super Heavy booster will be built in Texas
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    A duo of SpaceX job postings at the company’s South Texas facilities have confirmed that both Starship and Super Heavy “flight article” vehicles will initially be fabricated and assembled on-site in Boca Chica, also implying that the rocket’s first orbital launch attempts will occur in the same vicinity.

    Construction of the first massive Super Heavy booster could begin in Boca Chica within the next several months, presumably progressing in a similar fashion to Starship’s full-scale hopper prototype. According to CEO Elon Musk, Starhopper hop tests and Super Heavy construction could begin – respectively – as early as March and April 2019, perhaps just one or two months from now.

    https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-job...as-production/


    SpaceX CEO Elon Musk says that BFR could cost less to build than Falcon 9
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    SpaceX CEO Elon Musk believes that there may be a path for the company to ultimately build the massive Starship spacecraft and Super Heavy booster (formerly BFR) for less than Falcon 9/Falcon Heavy, a rocket 3-9 times smaller than BFR.

    While it certainly ranks high on the list of wild and wacky things the CEO has said over the years, there may be a few ways – albeit with healthy qualifications – that Starship/Super Heavy production costs could ultimately compare favorably with SpaceX’s Falcon family of launch vehicles. Nevertheless, there are at least as many ways in which the next-gen rocket can (or should) never be able to beat the production cost of what is effectively a far simpler rocket.
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    This will sound implausible, but I think there’s a path to build Starship / Super Heavy for less than Falcon 9

    — Elon Musk (@elonmusk) February 11, 2019

    https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-ceo...than-falcon-9/


    SpaceX’s first Starship engine suffers “expected” damage during Raptor test fire
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    SpaceX CEO Elon Musk says that the first full-scale Starship engine to be tested has already been pushed to the point of damage less than three weeks after the campaign began, setting the stage for the second full-scale Raptor to take over in the near future.

    According to Musk, while most of the damaged pathfinder Raptor’s components should still be easily reusable, the assembly of the second finalized engine is “almost done” and that Raptor will take over near-term testing rather than waiting for repairs to the first engine. This is undoubtedly an extraordinarily aggressive test program, particularly for such a new and cutting-edge rocket propulsion system, but these latest developments are ultimately far more encouraging than they are concerning.

    https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-sta...engine-damage/


    SpaceX Starship Hopper Moving to Boca Chica Launch Pad - Livestream
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIFpLblpC-E


    SpaceX’s Starship prototype moved to launch pad on new rocket transporter
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    Over the last two or so weeks, SpaceX engineers and technicians have continued to make progress on the company’s first full-scale Starship prototype, intended to support experimental suborbital hop tests as early as March or April.

    That work reached a peak on March 8th when the massive Starhopper was transported from build site to launch pad on a brand new transporter that was delivered and assembled barely 48 hours prior. Ahead of the suborbital prototype’s move, work has been ongoing to construct a replacement fairing for the partial-fidelity vehicle, although there is a chance that the new BFR-related stainless steel sections being assembled could be the start of the first orbital Starship prototype.

    https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-sta...pad-transport/


    Live drone view of Hopper at SpaceX Boca Chica launch pad
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROT_NL7UQAM


    SpaceX’s Elon Musk says Raptor will be installed on Starship prototype this week
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    Speaking on Friday, March 8th, SpaceX CEO Elon Musk announced that the company’s second completed Raptor engine was already “on [its] way to [Star]hopper” to – nominally – be installed on the prototype vehicle as early as the week of March 11th (this week).

    According to an official SpaceX statement, once Raptor is installed on Starhopper, the integrated vehicle will perform a combination of ground systems testing, propellant loading, static fire tests, and low-altitude hover demonstrations to prove out the brand new vehicle, engine, and facilities. Prior to the final months of 2018, the build site, launch pad, and prototype Starship now preparing for imminent hop tests were little more than empty dirt lots on the southern tip of the Texas coast.

    https://www.teslarati.com/starship-p...ngine-install/


    SpaceX about to install engines on Starship hopper
    https://behindtheblack.com/behind-th...arship-hopper/


    Where's the dang TXV on this thing?
    Vacuum Technology:
    CRUD = Contamination Resulting in Undesirable Deposits.
    CRAPP = Contamination Resulting in Additional Partial Pressure.

    Change your vacuum pump oil now.

    Test. Testing, 1,2,3.

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    March 2019

    SpaceX begins static Starhopper tests as Raptor engine arrives on schedule
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    SpaceX has officially begun static ground testing of Starhopper, a full-scale pathfinder Starship prototype meant to support an early series of Raptor-powered hop tests at SpaceX’s South Texas launch site. Simultaneously, the second completed Raptor engine arrived at the site on Monday, March 11th, confirming CEO Elon Musk’s March 8th tweets about the delivery.

    While reasonably routine for any rocket test program, the first tanking test of Starhopper effectively marks the first time that SpaceX has begun tests with a more or less fully integrated Starship (previously BFS). Likely performed with liquid nitrogen instead of liquid oxygen/methane, the first few tanking tests will be used to determine the quality of the prototype’s stainless steel tanks – built en plein air in a fairly unorthodox fashion – and test whether they are functional pressure vessels without risking immediate and total destruction. If successful, SpaceX will proceed into Raptor integration and integrated static-fire tests before preparing for tethered hover tests, perhaps as early as later this month.

    IT’S ALIVE!!!! Hopper’s First Breath! pic.twitter.com/TGpksYFJXS
    — SPadre (@SpacePadreIsle) March 11, 2019

    https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-sta...-static-tests/


    SpaceX in the News - Episode 18 (Starhopper Igniting This Week!)
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    In this episode of SpaceX in the News, we listen to what NASA and SpaceX have been saying about the success of the recent Crew Dragon mission; and we visit Starhopper in Boca Chica, TX to take a look at all the major modifications now that the first Raptor engine has arrived.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_sR6V5CC3M


    Musk Tweets About Hopper, Flight Tests & Boca Chica Plans
    http://www.parabolicarc.com/2019/03/...a-chica-plans/


    SpaceX might launch 'Test Hopper' — a prototype for a giant Mars rocket ship — for the first time this week
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    SpaceX workers crawl the lower section of the Test Hopper out to a launch pad near Boca Chica Beach, Texas, on March 8, 2019.
    Maria Pointer (bocachicaMaria)

    https://www.businessinsider.co.za/sp...starship2019-3


    SpaceX’s first orbital Starship begins assembly as steel heat shield passes tests
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    SpaceX CEO Elon Musk says that the company’s South Texas workforce has already begun to fabricate the first orbital-class Starship prototype, while Hawthorne engineers and technicians are in the midst of performing small-scale testing of the vehicle’s unprecedented stainless steel heat shield.

    https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-orb...-shield-tests/


    First SpaceX Starship Hopper tests this week?
    https://behindtheblack.com/behind-th...sts-this-week/


    SpaceX in the News - Episode 19 (Elon Is Building 2 Starships!)
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    In this episode of SpaceX in the News, we take a look at Elon's tweets concerning Starship Super Heavy and Starhopper; images of raptor on the hopper down in Boca Chica; NASA's potential cutting of the SLS rocket; and future launches.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixqHaEPbGm0


    SpaceX Is Finally Ready to Test Its ‘Starship’
    https://www.popularmechanics.co.za/s...test-starship/


    SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates
    https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/in...pic=47001.1120


    SpaceX will build and launch Starship/Super Heavy in Texas and Florida, says Musk
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    According to SpaceX CEO Elon Musk, the company has plans to both build and launch BFR’s Starship upper stages and Super Heavy boosters at facilities located in Boca Chica, Texas and Cape Canaveral, Florida.

    https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-sta...ld-and-launch/


    SpaceX’s Starship prototype set for first serious test after Raptor engine installed
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    In concert with South Texas’ Cameron County, SpaceX has officially scheduled the first serious test – requiring temporary road closures – of its Starship prototype, unofficially nicknamed ‘Starhopper’ in light of its ultimate goal of performing low-altitude, low-velocity hop tests.

    https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-sta...tor-installed/


    SpaceX goes all-in on steel Starship, scraps expensive carbon fiber BFR tooling
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    In a wholly unforeseen turn of events, SpaceX has taken the extraordinary step of permanently scrapping both its Port of Los Angeles-based BFR development tent and what seem to be the majority of what it contained, irreparably destroying custom-built tooling meant to support the fabrication of carbon composite BFR spaceships and boosters.

    Likely worth anywhere from several to tens of millions of dollars (USD), SpaceX’s advanced BFR production tools were procured from industry-expert Ascent Aerospace sometime in 2017 before being officially delivered to the rocket company’s newly-erected Port of LA tent around April 2018. Situated at the port specifically due to logistical concerns about the high cost of transporting 9m/30ft-diameter objects from SpaceX’s main Hawthorne facilities to a barge for transport east, the company has decided to unequivocally destroy its aerospace-grade composite tooling less than 12 months after accepting delivery. Put simply, this is the best evidence yet that SpaceX – willing or not – has gone all-in on build Starship and Super Heavy out of stainless steel less than six months after CEO Elon Musk began to hint at the program’s utterly radical pivot.

    https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-all...p-super-heavy/


    SpaceX in the News - Episode 20 (STARSHIP UPDATES)
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    In this episode of SpaceX in the News, we take a look at starhopper's current status on the launch pad; starship's construction progress; Stargate; and Elon Musk's recent travels. I also give a bonus motivational pep talk.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss0-btFxRpM


    The Evolution of the Big Falcon Hopper (BFH) Pictorial
    https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/in...?topic=47070.0

    Live at SpaceX's "StarHopper" (No Ignition, but successful test)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOm4S8y59Hg


    SpaceX’s steel Starship glows during Earth reentry in first high-quality render
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    https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-sta...ficial-render/


    SpaceX Starhopper - What You Need To Know | Mini Documentary [5:12]

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns0-c5WdL_A


    SpaceX’s Starship hopper steps towards first hop with several cautious tests
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    SpaceX’s team of South Texas engineers and technicians have dived into a program of critical pre-hop tests of the first assembled Starship prototype, a partial-fidelity vehicle – known as (Star)Hopper – meant to soon perform low-altitude, low-velocity hop tests powered by Raptor.

    https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-sta...tious-testing/
    Vacuum Technology:
    CRUD = Contamination Resulting in Undesirable Deposits.
    CRAPP = Contamination Resulting in Additional Partial Pressure.

    Change your vacuum pump oil now.

    Test. Testing, 1,2,3.

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    I read an article several years ago in a Scientific Magazine about how they would put a protective atmosphere on Mars. What were they going to use? Why it was Refrigerant, the old Ozone Depletion stuff, and they were going to make it on Mars.

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    Barefoot flyer -- maybe he should have pulled the breaker first?
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