Not much in stock anymore.

[edward301]

Worked on a heat pump the other day that had a leak. Found two leaks
brazed one leak, and found the accumulator also leaking.

I called 6 or 7 supply houses, and none of them had one in stock. I was
even willing to oversize if needed. Everyone would have to have one
shipped in.

Needless to say, one is on order.

If 10,000 people don't need it, it is not in stock......

[Metalman0880]

Cost to much to keep stuff on the shelf. You see it more and more every day. That sir is the sad truth.


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[jtrammel]

I've had the same problem. Especially with oil burner and hydronics parts but yeah even refrigeration and electrical parts that used to be common place.

An acculumator used to cost about XX now it's XXX though because of the poor handling of our government for at least the last 24 years

[hedrash]

Around the time of the recession, about 7 years ago, after Obama came into office, a HUGE tax law passed through the system. If a supply house stocks something they need to pass the sales tax on regardless of whether it's sold or not. If it's kept at the plant/distribution center, the law didn't apply. If the item wasn't sold by the end of the tax year those taxes would be returned. (I'm pretty fuzzy on the law & never researched it much but was given the same answer from several companies, they passed the buck pretty quickly)

A lot of companies started to keep things at the manufacturing plant, especially obscure or unpopular parts. Contractors, relays, thermostats, etc. were kept on hand but things that would only be ordered once in awhile were kept in the main factory/ distribution center to avoid these taxes. So, needless to say it's our government screwing us over once again. Accumulators are also a rare item nowadays as compensators are being used instead. They're smaller & more efficient than accumulators from what I've been told.

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[mrkelly]

Sad part is,I usually only need the obscure parts and then They want to 'Ship' it TO You and you get the shipping 'bill'.

[jtrammel]

Sad part is,I usually only need the obscure parts and then They want to 'Ship' it TO You and you get the shipping 'bill'.

One of my suppliers charges me sales tax on shipping charges and warranty parts? WTH SMH

[hedrash]

Yeah depending on state they charge sales tax on shipping because it's a service. Most companies just figure it in to the shipping costs. Unless they ship for free and then they need to charge an excise tax.

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[Metalman0880]

I'm in NYS. So that answers my tax situation. Some suppliers charge charge me sales tax some don't. And better yet NO ONE can answer me. Shipping and freight is something that has become unreal too over the last few years.


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[hedrash]

That's why I left. It's going to be the really rich & the really poor.

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[jtrammel]

We may end up all having to move to Texas and seceding the union then we can annex Mexico and South Carolina and build a bridge with helicopters over United communist states of America.

[hedrash]

I think we can leave Mexico out. They've got enough corruption going on. South Carolina might be ok, but so many NY'ERS are moving there & changing laws it's getting out of hand. Something up & down the East Coast.

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[jtrammel]

I think we can leave Mexico out. They've got enough corruption going on. South Carolina might be ok, but so many NY'ERS are moving there & changing laws it's getting out of hand. Something up & down the East Coast.

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Mexico has nice beaches though... We can ship the cartels/thugs to the UCSA. Hillary will welcome then with open arms.

[hedrash]

That's true. She'll probably strike up some NAFTA trade deal & give them free boats to ship their product. Mexico has amazing beaches but it also has Juarez. It went could take Acapulco & leave the rest, I'm good, lol.

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[icemeister]

Around the time of the recession, about 7 years ago, after Obama came into office, a HUGE tax law passed through the system. If a supply house stocks something they need to pass the sales tax on regardless of whether it's sold or not. If it's kept at the plant/distribution center, the law didn't apply. If the item wasn't sold by the end of the tax year those taxes would be returned. (I'm pretty fuzzy on the law & never researched it much but was given the same answer from several companies, they passed the buck pretty quickly)

A lot of companies started to keep things at the manufacturing plant, especially obscure or unpopular parts. Contractors, relays, thermostats, etc. were kept on hand but things that would only be ordered once in awhile were kept in the main factory/ distribution center to avoid these taxes. So, needless to say it's our government screwing us over once again. Accumulators are also a rare item nowadays as compensators are being used instead. They're smaller & more efficient than accumulators from what I've been told.

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Federal laws cannot affect sales taxes because those are controlled by the states. It's not because of anything Obama did. You may be talking about federal inventory taxes, which have been around for as long as I can remember...and that's a long time. Those really kicked up during the Reagan administration as I recall.

If anything I'd blame the lack of stock on the Harvard Business School and their hoards of MBA's (AKA, Beancounters) who micromanage the nation's corporations daily operations in search of nickels and dimes they can hide from the tax man.

The result from our perspective is they cause empty shelves and our suppliers are faced with ever-increasing lost sales.

I had a branch manager who would give me brand new parts like defrost heaters, oddball motors, fan blades, etc. every year that he was told to throw away because it had been special ordered or was no longer on the re-order list. Once I got a brand-new Copeland semihermetic (R12 XLT) that had been on the shelf for too many years and was then an obsolete model. The beancounters were tossing dollars out the window to save pennies.

For years I made it a point to ask the counter guys to file a lost sale report every time I went there and found that a normally stocked item or even an common item was not on the shelf. I had high hopes those reports would actually be read by someone one day.

[mrkelly]

We pay Sales Tax and have the 'documentation' for the Exempt gig but still have to pay sales tax on tool's or Personal items.Which is a PITA as Each County,Municipality in the State has a different Rate for Billing.

Fubar.

[CircusEnvy]

I don't know, I haven't experienced much in the way of common parts not being available. I think it varies from distributor to distributor. Superior and R.E. Michel never let me down.

Trane is THE worst - once I called about a warranty contactor and I was told they had a backlog of over 200 contactors, I'll have to wait 1-2 months for it. I'm sorry, what? For a stupid 30 amp single-pole contactor? Same goes for most capacitors and coils.

[icemeister]

I don't know, I haven't experienced much in the way of common parts not being available. I think it varies from distributor to distributor. Superior and R.E. Michel never let me down.

Trane is THE worst - once I called about a warranty contactor and I was told they had a backlog of over 200 contactors, I'll have to wait 1-2 months for it. I'm sorry, what? For a stupid 30 amp single-pole contactor? Same goes for most capacitors and coils.

I had two supply houses in town. One was Baker Distributing, formerly Baker Bros. which was bought by Watsco back in the 90's. The other was an private, family owned independent wholesaler, Central Supply, with two or three stores.

Guess which one was the PITA?

[CircusEnvy]

I had two supply houses in town. One was Baker Distributing, formerly Baker Bros. which was bought by Watsco back in the 90's. The other was an private, family owned independent wholesaler, Central Supply, with two or three stores.

Guess which one was the PITA?

I'll guess Baker because my experience with them is the same with Trane, except on top of the wait time, they order the wrong parts half the time.

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[hedrash]

I don't know, I haven't experienced much in the way of common parts not being available. I think it varies from distributor to distributor. Superior and R.E. Michel never let me down.

Trane is THE worst - once I called about a warranty contactor and I was told they had a backlog of over 200 contactors, I'll have to wait 1-2 months for it. I'm sorry, what? For a stupid 30 amp single-pole contactor? Same goes for most capacitors and coils.

Yeah I never bothered going to Trane for a contactor

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[jtrammel]

I never turn caps or contactors in for warranty. I know I should but I never have the time to fool with a small common part.