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    Quote Originally Posted by corny View Post
    Well... the thing is ...... we are never going to have to fight our own government...... and as far as invaders..... if it ever does come down to US citizens...... all of GA's hunters having to take up arms to defend this nation...... that will mean that someone has defeated the most powerfull and technologically advanced military in the known universe...... and a bunch of hunters aint going to do much good...... heck... throw in the criminals and there guns too...... still going to be a hunter hoodlum bloodbath...

    Of course... with all the prepper crap out there on the net...... when the dog doodie does hit the fan.... aint gonna be nobody left to defend the country because most of the folks are planning on high tailing it to the woods with their tarps and 5.00 ready to eat meals....... lol
    If you were not so far off topic, I would reply. So...
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    Quote Originally Posted by glennac View Post
    Well new I could care less about SA or Kuwait. Saddam having control over the oil is in fact better than SA having control over the oil IMHO.

    You had at least a secular state in Iraq with freedom to practice your own religion and wear what you wanted to as long as you didn't oppose Saddam. That was a lot better than what you have in SA who are exporting radical Islam to the world and are responsible for 911. Saddam helped keep Iran down also.

    Should have watched 60 minutes last night or look at that video Cool put up http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/showthread....1#post22575561

    Yeah Saudi Arabia's Wahhabi version of Islam is what ISIS is based on and SA is spreading this puritanical version of Islam around the world. This is where the Taliban got there beliefs from the Mosques built by SA in Afgan. We should have let Saddam stamp out the main exporter of terror in the world Saudi Arabia IMHO. Thank you, thank you very much
    No sale my friend. If Saddam had the money, power, oil, he would not have stopped at Saudi Arabia. He would have used his momentum and steam-rolled right into his next conquest.

    They all do it, history proves it. Guys like this do not 'stop while they are ahead', they just keep going and conquering until someone slams an ax though their skull. They can control a lot of stuff and people, but they cannot control themselves.

    We can contemplate around twenty, and perhaps thirty, different scenarios of what 'could have' 'should have' 'might have' happened if things were dealt with differently. Realistically, any scenario is going to end in a disaster. There is no ideal solution. Any way, any method ends in failure.

    It's hard to understand why, and we try to 'think outside the box' and come up with a winning solution. We always fail. Nothing works, and no alternative course would have worked.

    We need to address the core problem and not doctor the symptoms. That would be islamic vermin and tin-pot dictators.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tool-Slinger View Post
    No sale my friend. If Saddam had the money, power, oil, he would not have stopped at Saudi Arabia. He would have used his momentum and steam-rolled right into his next conquest.

    They all do it, history proves it. Guys like this do not 'stop while they are ahead', they just keep going and conquering until someone slams an ax though their skull. They can control a lot of stuff and people, but they cannot control themselves.

    We can contemplate around twenty, and perhaps thirty, different scenarios of what 'could have' 'should have' 'might have' happened if things were dealt with differently. Realistically, any scenario is going to end in a disaster. There is no ideal solution. Any way, any method ends in failure.

    It's hard to understand why, and we try to 'think outside the box' and come up with a winning solution. We always fail. Nothing works, and no alternative course would have worked.

    We need to address the core problem and not doctor the symptoms. That would be islamic vermin and tin-pot dictators.
    So what is the difference between stopping Saaddam...
    And stopping BHO...

    They BOTH behave as Tool suggests above...

    And they BOTH must be stopped if America is gonna survive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ga-hvac-tech View Post
    So what is the difference between stopping Saaddam...
    And stopping BHO...

    They BOTH behave as Tool suggests above...

    And they BOTH must be stopped if America is gonna survive.
    BHO and company is a far greater threat to the USA than Saddam ever could have been.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tool-Slinger View Post
    BHO and company is a far greater threat to the USA than Saddam ever could have been.
    Yes, IMO you are absolutely correct there...

    However my question was based on behavior...
    What is the difference between the behavior of Saaddam and BHO?
    One might also consider what is the difference of agenda...
    And what is the difference of goals...
    And what is the difference of 'non-American' attitude...
    And a host more stuff American voters should think about...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tool-Slinger View Post
    But Brian, what you are failing to understand is who cares what an ambassador says? That doesn't give him the excuse or right to invade another country. And perhaps on that day we didn't care. Things change. But that's irrelevant in assigning blame for the invasion.
    Kuwait was/is our oil rich ally. It was Bush Sr's obligation to do and say whatever possible to discourage Saddam from attacking them. Saying "We have no opinion on your border-to-border conflicts" is the wrong thing to say when words should be chosen very carefully.

    We did not cause the invasion but in a left handed way we gave Saddam the green light. Then we threw our hands up in outrage. What hypocrites…all right under the noses of the American People.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian GC View Post
    Kuwait was/is our oil rich ally. It was Bush Sr's obligation to do and say whatever possible to discourage Saddam from attacking them. Saying "We have no opinion on your border-to-border conflicts" is the wrong thing to say when words should be chosen very carefully.

    We did not cause the invasion but in a left handed way we gave Saddam the green light. Then we threw our hands up in outrage. What hypocrites…all right under the noses of the American People.
    Saying "We have no opinion on your border-to-border conflicts" is not the same thing as saying. "we do not care if you invade them and take over the nation".

    I am not even sure anything like that was ever said to begin with, but I have heard the rumor before. It would not really matter though, saddam would have to have been a colossal fool to act on some ambassador opinion. And he was a fool.

    I am reasonably certain it is the truth that the USA actually had no interest in iraq/kuwait border conflict. Obviously, the invasion/take-over was another issue. I think saddam 'thought he could 'get away with it' and he was misled and prompted by idiot advisors both within his regime and maybe some stupid US ambassador. Saddam still holds full responsibility for his stupidity and subsequent destruction of himself and iraq.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tool-Slinger View Post
    Saying "We have no opinion on your border-to-border conflicts" is not the same thing as saying. "we do not care if you invade them and take over the nation".

    I am not even sure anything like that was ever said to begin with, but I have heard the rumor before. It would not really matter though, saddam would have to have been a colossal fool to act on some ambassador opinion. And he was a fool.

    I am reasonably certain it is the truth that the USA actually had no interest in iraq/kuwait border conflict. Obviously, the invasion/take-over was another issue. I think saddam 'thought he could 'get away with it' and he was misled and prompted by idiot advisors both within his regime and maybe some stupid US ambassador. Saddam still holds full responsibility for his stupidity and subsequent destruction of himself and iraq.
    And now, the advisors, work for BHusseinO!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian GC View Post
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    We did not cause the invasion but in a left handed way we gave Saddam the green light. T
    This part of your statement does have merit brain.
    There is only one truly right way to do something, but there are thousands of wrong ways to varying degrees to do it.
    So the question is: If you don't do it right, then how wrong is it going to be???

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    A Freudian slip ?


    Quote Originally Posted by Robber View Post
    This part of your statement does have merit, brain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tool-Slinger View Post
    Saying "We have no opinion on your border-to-border conflicts" is not the same thing as saying. "we do not care if you invade them and take over the nation".

    I am not even sure anything like that was ever said to begin with, but I have heard the rumor before. It would not really matter though, saddam would have to have been a colossal fool to act on some ambassador opinion. And he was a fool.

    I am reasonably certain it is the truth that the USA actually had no interest in iraq/kuwait border conflict. Obviously, the invasion/take-over was another issue. I think saddam 'thought he could 'get away with it' and he was misled and prompted by idiot advisors both within his regime and maybe some stupid US ambassador. Saddam still holds full responsibility for his stupidity and subsequent destruction of himself and iraq.
    Having a low estimation of people is a common trait around here. It's just shocking you think so low of our top military brass and strategists too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tool-Slinger View Post

    I am reasonably certain it is the truth that the USA actually had no interest in iraq/kuwait border conflict. Obviously, the invasion/take-over was another issue. I think Saddam 'thought he could 'get away with it' and he was misled and prompted by idiot advisors both within his regime and maybe some stupid US ambassador. Saddam still holds full responsibility for his stupidity and subsequent destruction of himself and iraq.
    I was mistaken about the spelling of the Ambassador's name. It is spelled Glaspie. I also misquoted her. She said "we have no opinion on your Arab to Arab conflicts." The US alway did have a major interest in protecting both Kuwait and Saudi Arabia.

    Furthermore, our Ambassador is given exact directions what to say to a madman about to invade our Allie. She is not some lone "stupid US Ambassador." She had worked in the region for a long time and was a specialist in the Middle East. We calculated Saddam's interpretation of that statement, not miscalculated it.

    If you read Wikipedia on her, she would not talk about her meeting with Saddam until years later. Why do you suppose that was? Well, obviously she was given directions not to speak about it…hence the news stations had nothing to bite into. When Bush Sr was forming his 'coalition,' she was gagged, hogtied and thrown in a closet.

    You and most of America had the wool pulled over your eyes.

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    I would do exactly the same thing for my country if I were in that situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poodle Head Mikey View Post
    I would do exactly the same thing for my country if I were in that situation.

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    today we got salary after we were hopeless

    the reason behind working free that

    if power plant stopped then hospitals
    so no pateints will get treatment then they will die
    and many factories will stop then many poor worker will loose their job
    also in so hot summer
    many poor people will get hurt due ton no electric to operate fan
    or air conditioner etc
    also i remmeber what my father always advice me to do

    its not aproblem if you worked with no salary for 2 or 3 months
    he said this conutry gave as too many things
    money food and many thing
    so working for free is the least thing we can do
    thank u all
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    "Arab to Arab conflicts" is much different than invasion and occupation of another country. There are "conflicts" and then there are "CONFLICTS". Just sayin'.

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