If you have alerton questions

[ph33r]

The picture is clearer now.

[gary06]

Im the only HVAC tech in a small school distric (7 sites)
Their all Alerton controled ( 3 with Bactalk 4 with Ibex)
Im using Envision for bactalk v1.30A
I want to add a TX-SA 651 on one of the Ibex sites
Ive installed the Tx - addressed it -set it up in program Manager -
added its zone and schedual - and its responding.
in Envisions I went Tools>DDC>Visio>subcaller - added its sub routine
in the the correct BCM-Tux program and addressed Using copy and edit.

I cant get it it respond to OSA. it contantly reads 87deg

Help

[mechinc]

The picture is clearer now.

OK...I put the subroutine in bldg A BCM
I put the heartbeat in bldg B BCM

It seems to work but I have 1 issue.

I see the heartbeat with BV 30.

Then I removed the power to bldg B BCM

As the BCM is powering down BV 100 switches to
show comm fail but once the BCM is completely
powered off, BV100 switches back to normal.

Is this correct?

[mechinc]

OK...I put the subroutine in bldg A BCM
I put the heartbeat in bldg B BCM

It seems to work but I have 1 issue.

I see the heartbeat with BV 30.

Then I removed the power to bldg B BCM

As the BCM is powering down BV 100 switches to
show comm fail but once the BCM is completely
powered off, BV100 switches back to normal.

Is this correct?

Anything ph33r ?

[ph33r]

Im the only HVAC tech in a small school distric (7 sites)
Their all Alerton controled ( 3 with Bactalk 4 with Ibex)
Im using Envision for bactalk v1.30A
I want to add a TX-SA 651 on one of the Ibex sites
Ive installed the Tx - addressed it -set it up in program Manager -
added its zone and schedual - and its responding.
in Envisions I went Tools>DDC>Visio>subcaller - added its sub routine
in the the correct BCM-Tux program and addressed Using copy and edit.

I cant get it it respond to OSA. it contantly reads 87deg

Help

Well you are going to be doing a couple points transfers here. One from a zone custom or ibex point to a logical ai which will be then read by your program and edited. If I remember correctly (its been a while since I did tuxes) TX-sa is an application specific tux and not an aplc so you are going to need to get the help file or call alerton support and see what logical ai it references for the outside air.

[ph33r]

Anything ph33r ?

Sorry was taking a break for a while I'll get to it in just a second. I have to reread through my code.

[ph33r]

OK...I put the subroutine in bldg A BCM
I put the heartbeat in bldg B BCM

It seems to work but I have 1 issue.

I see the heartbeat with BV 30.

Then I removed the power to bldg B BCM

As the BCM is powering down BV 100 switches to
show comm fail but once the BCM is completely
powered off, BV100 switches back to normal.

Is this correct?

Ok well when the bcm that has bv-100 is off you should get an unreliable reading because the bcm it references is off.

[mechinc]

Ok well when the bcm that has bv-100 is off you should get an unreliable reading because the bcm it references is off.

I believe I setup the BV as off=normal, on= comm-fail

So when it goes completely offline, the BV stays on Normal.

If I can get it to go NR, is there a way to flag the NR
and email that out?

Also,

I noticed whomever setup the programming performed
all logic in visio and are using BVs and AVs.
Why would one use the global BVs / AVs when you can cut down
network traffic by using the local device's logical BIs /AOs

This way all logic is in the local controller and the only thing that
is going through the global is OA-share, etc.?

[ph33r]

I believe I setup the BV as off=normal, on= comm-fail

So when it goes completely offline, the BV stays on Normal.

If I can get it to go NR, is there a way to flag the NR
and email that out?

Also,

I noticed whomever setup the programming performed
all logic in visio and are using BVs and AVs.
Why would one use the global BVs / AVs when you can cut down
network traffic by using the local device's logical BIs /AOs

This way all logic is in the local controller and the only thing that
is going through the global is OA-share, etc.?

I don't know maybe they were doing a global process such as determining the lowest cooling signal and reseting a chiller? There could be many reasons, now if they wrote basic code like hot water valve control or vfd pi loops then that doesn't make sense.

There is no way to monitor and dial out if your bcm-eth craps out as it is your connection to the net. You could have a dedicated vlc that monitors a point from the bcm and have a bo connect through a relay to a modem that has terminal blocks to monitor alarms but that is allot of work.

Unfortunately if the bcm goes well your sol in MOST cases.

[mechinc]

I don't know maybe they were doing a global process such as determining the lowest cooling signal and reseting a chiller? There could be many reasons, now if they wrote basic code like hot water valve control or vfd pi loops then that doesn't make sense.

There is no way to monitor and dial out if your bcm-eth craps out as it is your connection to the net. You could have a dedicated vlc that monitors a point from the bcm and have a bo connect through a relay to a modem that has terminal blocks to monitor alarms but that is allot of work.

Unfortunately if the bcm goes well your sol in MOST cases.

Is there a way to flag NR?

[Georgie09]

Hi All, I have been reading through the previous postings relating to Bactalk but have not seen any topics relating to removing of staff from the alarms. Here's my predicament:

My Data Centre manager has retired, I have removed him from the SMS alarms but he but is still receiving the Voice alarms.

Can somebody please explain to me how to remove his name from the Voice alarms? I am using Envision BACtalk V1.30A

Thanks
Geordie09

[doubleduece]

Georgie , Check your post....


Ph33r, Sorry beat you to it

[ph33r]

Hehe, well I got the BCM-TUX one :-D

[leaflying]

Hi Ph33r and other experts,

I am new to Alerton. What programming software from Alerton I should use/purchase, if I only use Alerton field controllers with non-Alerton BACnet frontend (say, Niagara AX)? Thanks!

[Control Loopy]

Hi Ph33r and other experts,

I am new to Alerton. What programming software from Alerton I should use/purchase,!

Hi All, I have a similar question - I have some used/removed Alerton controllers, including an 'IBEX' hardware lock. Rather than dump the lot, I was interested in learning about the programming/software routines, etc.

The Alerton product is quite rare in the UK due to the Honeywell tie in with other products, so getting any information is not easy.

Many thanks.

[ph33r]

You will need envision for bactalk to develop the graphics and frontend and the ebt will come with the visio macro for programming or you could use the blue screen in the ebt program. Alerton is one of the easiest programming langauges I have found. This is all BACtalk Ibex is a different beast.

[kontrolphreak]

ph33r,

Would you happen to have any technical documentation on the LSI?
I am also looking for the latest ROC files for it as well.
My email is in my profile.
Thanks.

kontrol out

[doubleduece]

Email sent>>>>

ph33r , I hope you dont mind, I dont want to over step my boundries...

[refrige-nate]

Having to change graphics for a new controller and chaging user privs and passwords but getting an error stating "Sharing Violation" and "DB Error"

Bactalk 2.3 front end with Alerton BTI's and Alerton devices in two buildings, Delta Controls devices in another building with one FEC, Delta Controls devices in another building.

The graphics need to be changed for the one device were a delta DAC was taken out and FEC installed.

Do not have any manuals except the two boardsmoker sent me recently.

LTBT-TM-PRGRMR and
now I can not find the other

can i get a copy of whatever he sent you?????

[Kontrolfreek]

Your gona share that? Right refrige-nate?