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    Trace A Gas.

    We just received our first bottle from the local supply house for test. Should be interesting to see how well it really works. If you spend the time & be persistent I think you can find a leak without it.

    http://www.agas.com/upload/product/1...3547_10543.pdf
    The primary function of the design engineer is to make things difficult for the fabricator and impossible for the serviceman.

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    couldn't open the file ? says corrupt

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    Read you link. Doesn't even begin to describe how you detect the leak.

    Is this a dye?
    Do you use an electronic leak detector?
    Soap bubbles?

    Looks like another snake oil product when they only give vague details on how it works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zw17 View Post
    Read you link. Doesn't even begin to describe how you detect the leak.

    Is this a dye?
    Do you use an electronic leak detector?
    Soap bubbles?

    Looks like another snake oil product when they only give vague details on how it works.
    i'm guessing they will sell you a hydrogen gas detector

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    Quote Originally Posted by zw17 View Post
    Read you link. Doesn't even begin to describe how you detect the leak.

    Is this a dye?
    Do you use an electronic leak detector?
    Soap bubbles?

    Looks like another snake oil product when they only give vague details on how it works.
    I would think by the title of the thread and the name of the product Trace a gas it is a premixed trace gas (it does say 5% hydrogen and 9% nitrogen). That it is a gas that is designed to be used with an electronic leak detector but soap bubbles could easily used also.
    Trace gas is what it is called when you use a refrigerant in with your nitrogen for the purpose of leak detection.
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    How do you detect the leak if soap wont show it?

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    More EZ to pick up with cheap electronic detectors. I have read helium 5% or so works well also. May slow the sales of the H10????

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    Interesting. Do you still use a refrigerant leak detector? I can't seem to get any refrigerant leak detector to work reliably but my cheap gas leak detector works almost too good.

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    This product is simply not practical for HVAC servicing. You would need to recover the system charge; add this gas; go buy a hydrogen leak detector starting at about $15K; and learn to maneuver a bulky probe in a different manner because hydrogen gas rises and rises really fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zw17 View Post
    Read you link. Doesn't even begin to describe how you detect the leak.

    Is this a dye?
    Do you use an electronic leak detector?
    Soap bubbles?

    Looks like another snake oil product when they only give vague details on how it works.

    Used the same way nitrogen is but having smaller particles & being lighter than air it can escape through small holes or fractures.

    From what I have been told your standard CFC/HCFC leak detector will work just fine.
    The primary function of the design engineer is to make things difficult for the fabricator and impossible for the serviceman.

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