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    Quote Originally Posted by Tool-Slinger View Post
    We need to help Kefah if it is possible. Anything within reason we can do do to make his country safe and secure.
    i apprcite that from my heart
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    Quote Originally Posted by behappy View Post
    Tool is correct, BUT...

    Keifa is just like any one of us would be..
    He wants to stay in HIS house, in HIS country with HIS relatives SAFE.

    The Kurds (from here) seem to be the only hope for Iraq.
    Hopefully our politicians will get their heads out of their butts!


    Prayers for you and your family Keifa.
    thank u pal
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    i understan the opinon of some
    who reject the immigration
    i agree in some knid with them

    immigrant steal jobs
    or make truobles
    or they could be spies


    here i fear from immigrants here
    because any immgrant will not take carte of your land as you do

    but what about who left his house due to war

    here i have computer and phone shop
    also i have copier and scanner and printer
    i do thsese work for immgrant with half price
    and some times do it free since most of them are jobless
    and they live in non complete houses or in tent

    as i photo below



    those house will not protect u from cold weather which could reach 0 C in winter
    or 52 C in summer
    Power consists not in being able to strike another but in being able to control oneself when anger arises
    A diamond, is just a piece of coal that made good under pressure!
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    and all that ok with adult but what about children and babies

    Power consists not in being able to strike another but in being able to control oneself when anger arises
    A diamond, is just a piece of coal that made good under pressure!
    In the middle of every difficulty lies opportunity
    If success were easy everyone would be doing it.​

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    it got to be scary for him and is not a matter of being indignant that they might or can can cross our "Iron Curtain" to Asylum or safety to him that don't matter he is scared for his family and indignant of a invader or any kind in his home killing and blowing up his land.. he sounds like some common sense they are well armed and good fighters and willing to die for their God and way of life as they see it. that is a powerful tool...

    I am very conservative and oppose "illegal" immigration not asylum and I am not part of the Minority Report type to convict a man for a crime I "think" he may or may not commit in the future.. we already full of real terrorists now or you not watch the news of the riots like Ferguson and murders going on day by day..

    we sit here safe for the most part we don't hear explosions and machine-gun fire a mile from our house or have to see the terror and fear in our family eyes.. we think we are John Wayne and bullet proof and it shows in the way we act and talk when we get behind a keyboard..

    A man needs a little compassion in this world for is already full of death and evil now..

    all it takes for evil to prevail is when good men do nothing..

    for kefah I hope the best for you and the situation there and the Creators protection over you all.. may your Country again be your and safe in the near future

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    nice word pal
    thank u
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    That's what happens when you split up a country and ignore tribal borders. Why is it we don't support the Kurds, easy, cause Turkey is afraid that the Kurds want their own region, and pressuring us to not give them too many arms, so they can be controlled in the future.

    Turkey is letting us use their airspace and other things, so we comply.

    Kefah be careful and stay save.

    Roy
    A man is no less a slave because he is allowed to choose a new master once in a term of years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kefah View Post
    even if i get sniper rifle its useless
    they have armoured car
    heavy machine gun
    14.5 mm caliber
    rpg 7

    and they are expert in fighting
    They need to stick their head out to fire that MG. I would invest in night vision..scope, goggles and start taken those muthas out.

    I would wager that if foreign enemies were running about with machine guns on American soil, there would be a good 30 million of us out there with our deer rifles taken them out.
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    Give us your weak and huddled masses ect. Ect

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tool-Slinger View Post
    I think it is rather arrogant of you to assume that Kefah would like to immigrate to the USA. He might. But his extended family may not. He could have a son that goes total jihad here People shoot people with guns and do other acts of violence...jihad or no jihad.. in the end people die or get hurt. Their home is torn, I would like to help them fix that, But your suggestion that we simply rescue one good hearted survivor at at time by bringing them here is beyond my comprehension. Beyond my comprehension how naive you can be. That is not even possible, delete that word, we engage immigration policies based on sort of a national standard that has little means of filtering out the bad guys. There would be no real means of separating the good guys from the bad. In case you are not aware, there are bad guys over there. How lowly a brain matter can function. I did not even think it was clinically possible until now. I would like to poke it with a stick to see if it is even alive. I wonder if it would twitch or something. Brain dead.
    Immigrate is when someone goes through the proper channels like USCIS and comes here legally. Thousands of people come and go through US. A lot of people from Middle east, Asia and Africa come through and a nice chunk of them are muslims... no one can stop that from happening. Also as fanatic as people think that Muslims in America want to push Sharia law down non-muslims throats... it's not all hyped up to be.

    Islamphobia....

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/157082/is...ment-west.aspx

    I think Tool slinger you should have more concern with the "type" of people who run across the border, illegally... not people who come here legally.

    May God protect you Kefah. Please read Ayatul Kursi for you and your families protection.
    wHen I diE I hOpe gOd haS mErcy oN my SiNful LifE

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    Quote Originally Posted by mofotech View Post
    Immigrate is when someone goes through the proper channels like USCIS and comes here legally. Thousands of people come and go through US. A lot of people from Middle east, Asia and Africa come through and a nice chunk of them are muslims... no one can stop that from happening. Also as fanatic as people think that Muslims in America want to push Sharia law down non-muslims throats... it's not all hyped up to be.

    Islamphobia....

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/157082/is...ment-west.aspx

    I think Tool slinger you should have more concern with the "type" of people who run across the border, illegally... not people who come here legally.

    May God protect you Kefah. Please read Ayatul Kursi for you and your families protection.
    thanks pal

    god bless u
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    God wont protect you, God might help you if you try and help yourself though. You need to fight tyranny or be enslaved by it...the choice is yours.
    Yes, you may have much to loose...like a home, family etc. Our history is filled with patriots that sacrificed their farms, family, and lives for freedom from tyranny...so future generations wouldn't have to go through what they did.

    When do you stop running, and start fighting? When is enough enough?

    In America, we have militias (freedom fighters).... Perhaps you need militias as well, ones that do not fight for Allah, but for freedom from tyranny.

    Do what Mohammad did...organize the tribes to fight for freedom though, not for Islam. You will never have freedom under Islamic submission.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coolwhip View Post
    God wont protect you, God might help you if you try and help yourself though. You need to fight tyranny or be enslaved by it...the choice is yours.
    Yes, you may have much to loose...like a home, family etc. Our history is filled with patriots that sacrificed their farms, family, and lives for freedom from tyranny...so future generations wouldn't have to go through what they did.

    When do you stop running, and start fighting? When is enough enough?

    In America, we have militias (freedom fighters).... Perhaps you need militias as well, ones that do not fight for Allah, but for freedom from tyranny.

    Do what Mohammad did...organize the tribes to fight for freedom though, not for Islam.
    if america didnt invade iraq
    we didnt need any militia
    at least under saddam dictator ship we lived without recognizing sunni from ****e
    at least iran wasnt dare to enter iraq

    as i said i will still in village to fight isis or any militia
    Power consists not in being able to strike another but in being able to control oneself when anger arises
    A diamond, is just a piece of coal that made good under pressure!
    In the middle of every difficulty lies opportunity
    If success were easy everyone would be doing it.​

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    Quote Originally Posted by kefah View Post
    if america didnt invade iraq
    we didnt need any militia
    at least under saddam dictator ship we lived without recognizing sunni from ****e
    at least iran wasnt dare to enter iraq

    as i said i will still in village to fight isis or any militia
    I agree that Bush screwed things up royally. But the so called Arab spring seems to have caused at least as many problems. Muslims don't seem to be able to live in peace even with other Muslims let alone anyone else. Its pretty sad, but the only thing that seems to work in many Muslim countries is brutal dictators like Saddam, Qaddafi, or Assad.

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    Saddam was given a choice and chose war by denying UN weapons inspectors into his country in 2002...and before. If he would have complied with the UN inspection teams, your country would not have been invaded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolwhip View Post
    Saddam was given a choice and chose war by denying UN weapons inspectors into his country in 2002...and before. If he would have complied with the UN inspection teams, your country would not have been invaded.
    first of all war declareed by USA without UN agree
    then if its weapon matter
    why UN does not inspect Israel or Korea
    who announced they have nuclear weapon

    the secret cause behind US invasion wasnt oil or Mass destruction weapon
    but to destroy Iraq
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    If success were easy everyone would be doing it.​

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    http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php..._Special_Plans

    Kefah you need a refresher course on the yellow cakers.
    What the mojo refers to as the betty crocker club.
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    Prior to the March 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, the UN Security Council adopted Resolution 1441 in November 2002 giving Iraq a “final opportunity” to comply with its disarmament requirements under previous Security Council resolutions. At issue was Iraq’s failure to provide an adequate accounting of its prohibited weapons programs or to convince UN inspectors that its weapons of mass destruction had been destroyed as Baghdad claimed.

    UN weapons inspectors worked in Iraq from November 27, 2002 until March 18, 2003. During that time, inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) and the United Nations Monitoring, Verification, and Inspections Commission (UNMOVIC) conducted more than 900 inspections at more than 500 sites. The inspectors did not find that Iraq possessed chemical or biological weapons or that it had reconstituted its nuclear weapons program.

    Although Iraq was cooperative on what inspectors called “process”—allowing inspectors access to suspected weapons sites, for example—it was only marginally cooperative in answering the questions surrounding its weapons programs. Unable to resolve its differences with Security Council members who favored strengthening and continuing weapons inspections, the United States abandoned the inspections process and initiated the invasion of Iraq on March 19.

    Following is a summary of the major events of the decision to pursue, then abandon, UN weapons inspections in Iraq.

    Skip to: 2002, 2003

    2002
    January 29, 2002: In his State of the Union address, President George W. Bush labels Iraq a member of an "axis of evil," along with Iran and North Korea. The president's speech is the first of many statements by top U.S. officials on the dangers posed by Iraq. Several of these officials question the ultimate worth of arms inspections and advocate the overthrow of Iraqi President Saddam Hussein as the only way to guarantee that Iraq will not develop weapons of mass destruction in the future.

    March 7, 2002: Iraqi officials meet with UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan and UN Monitoring, Verification, and Inspection Commission (UNMOVIC) Executive Chairman Hans Blix to discuss arms inspections for the first time since 1998. UN officials fail to win the return of inspectors at this meeting or two subsequent ones that occur in May and July.

    September 12, 2002: Amid increasing speculation that the United States is preparing to invade Iraq to oust Saddam Hussein, Bush delivers a speech to the United Nations calling on the organization to enforce its resolutions on disarming Iraq. Bush strongly implies that if the United Nations does not act, the United States will-a message that U.S. officials make more explicit the following week.

    September 16, 2002: Baghdad announces that it will allow arms inspectors to return "without conditions." Iraqi and UN officials meet September 17 to discuss the logistical arrangements for the return of inspectors and announce that final arrangements will be made at a meeting scheduled for the end of the month. The United States contends that there is nothing to talk about and warns that the Iraqis are simply stalling. The Bush administration continues to press the Security Council to approve a new UN resolution calling for Iraq to give weapons inspectors unfettered access and authorizing the use of force if Iraq does not comply.

    November 8, 2002: The UN Security Council adopts Resolution 1441. The resolution declares that Iraq "remains in material breach" of past resolutions and gives Iraq a "final opportunity to comply with its disarmament obligations" set out by Security Council resolutions stretching back to the end of the 1991 Persian Gulf War. It also strengthens UNMOVIC's and the International Atomic Energy Agency's (IAEA) powers to conduct inspections throughout Iraq, specifying that Iraq must allow "immediate, unimpeded, unconditional and unrestricted access" to "facilities, buildings, equipment, records, and means of transport which they wish to inspect." UN inspectors are given the authority to prohibit the movement of vehicles and aircraft around sites to be inspected and have the right to interview anyone they choose, without Iraqi officials present, in any location they wish. Additionally, the resolution overrides a 1998 memorandum of understanding between Baghdad and UN Secretary-General Annan that had placed special conditions on inspections of presidential sites to which Iraq had previously denied the inspectors access.

    The resolution also warns that Iraq will face "serious consequences" if it fails to comply with its disarmament obligations.

    November 13, 2002: Iraq accepts Resolution 1441 in a letter to Annan from Iraqi Foreign Minister Naji Sabr.

    November 27, 2002: UNMOVIC and IAEA inspections begin.

    December 7, 2002: Iraq submits its declaration "of all aspects of its [weapons of mass destruction] programmes" as required by Resolution 1441. The declaration is supposed to provide information about any prohibited weapons activity since UN inspectors left the country in 1998 and resolve outstanding questions about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs that had not been answered by 1998.

    The resolution requires the declaration to be "currently accurate, full, and complete," but UNMOVIC and IAEA inspectors tell the UN Security Council on December 19 that the declaration contains little new information.

    December 19, 2002: Following IAEA and UNMOVIC briefings to the UN Security Council, Secretary of State Colin Powell states that the Iraqi declaration contains a "pattern of systematic…gaps" that constitute "another material breach" of Iraq's disarmament obligations.

    2003
    February 5, 2003: Powell briefs the Security Council in an effort to persuade members that Iraq is subverting the inspections process. He publicly presents intelligence for the first time to support Washington's claim that Iraq is hiding weapons of mass destruction and interfering with inspections. France, China, and Russia are not persuaded and support continued inspections.

    February 24, 2003: The United States, United Kingdom, and Spain co-sponsor a new Security Council resolution saying "Iraq has failed to take the final opportunity afforded to it by Resolution 1441."
    The same day, Russia and France submit a memorandum stating that military force should be a "last resort" and that force should not yet be used because there is "no evidence" that Iraq possesses weapons of mass destruction. The memorandum also says, however, that "inspections…cannot continue indefinitely. Iraq must disarm." It further adds that Baghdad's cooperation, although improving, is not "yet fully satisfactory."

    The memorandum proposes that the inspectors submit a program of work that lists and clearly defines specific disarmament tasks. Such a report is already required under Resolution 1284, which created UNMOVIC in 1999.

    The memorandum also suggests "further measures to strengthen inspections," including increasing staff and bolstering technical capabilities. Additionally, it proposes a new timeline mandating regular reporting to the Security Council about inspectors' progress, as well as a progress report to be submitted 120 days after the program of work is adopted.

    Neither measure is adopted.

    March 7, 2003: UNMOVIC Executive Chairman Hans Blix tells the Security Council that Iraq's cooperation with the inspectors in providing information about past weapons activities has improved, although Baghdad has not yet complied with its disarmament obligations. UNMOVIC and IAEA inspectors had stated during briefings to the Security Council on January 27 and February 14 that Iraq was gradually increasing its cooperation with the United Nations. Yet, both deemed the cooperation insufficient.

    The United States, United Kingdom, and Spain co-sponsor another resolution stating that Iraq "will have failed" to comply with Resolution 1441 unless Baghdad cooperates with its disarmament obligations by March 17. The draft resolution implies that the council members would take military action if Iraq failed to meet the deadline.

    March 17, 2003: After U.S.-led diplomatic efforts to build support for the new resolution fail, the United States decides not to seek a vote on it-a reversal of Bush's March 6 statement that the United States would push for a Security Council vote on the resolution, regardless of whether it was expected to pass.

    Annan announces that UN weapons inspectors will be withdrawn from the country.

    Bush announces that Hussein and his sons have 48 hours to leave Iraq or the United States will initiate military action.

    March 18, 2003: UNMOVIC and IAEA inspectors leave Iraq.

    March 19, 2003: The United States commences military action. The United Kingdom, Australia, and Poland provide troops to the U.S.-led invasion.

    May 1, 2003: Bush declares an end to "major combat operations." U.S. forces had not discovered any Iraqi weapons of mass destruction since entering the country.


    Saddam was smug, arrogant, and defiant during all of this from what I remember. He was givin many opportunities to comply with the Wests demands. He responded by dragging his feet and being coy and evasive.
    We gave him and his family an opportunity to leave, and again he was defiant.

    So we kicked Iraqs ass in less than 1 month.

    Then, certain idiots (yours) over there decided to let all the prisoners go, destroy all of your ministry buildings, set your oil well ablaze, and phuk up your infrastructure.
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