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    The BATF has become a crime syndicate.

    How the ATF Manufactures Crime
    A Milwaukee Journal Sentinel investigation exposes the agency’s shameful tactics.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...rles-c-w-cooke
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    Read something similar to this concerning your DHS manufacturing terrorism suspects.
    Gotta justify those budgets somehow!

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    Yeah, why supposedly informed people are shocked at the tactics employed by law enforcement is a mystery. These types of tactics have been SOP for law enforcement since man first came down out of the trees.


    Oh wait, I see now. Some folks believe these tactics were invented and first deployed 1/20/09.

    Well, that clears it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geerair View Post


    Oh wait, I see now. Some folks believe these tactics were invented and first deployed 1/20/09.

    Well, that clears it up.
    It makes The President so much easier for them to hate when they live in delusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frozensolid View Post
    It makes The President so much easier for them to hate when they live in delusion.
    Funny, but I don't see where anyone tried to connect Obama to any of these. I know it's Bush's fault!
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    Quote Originally Posted by frozensolid View Post
    It makes The President so much easier for them to hate when they live in delusion.
    Funny always using the word "hate" you get that right out of the commie MSNBC far left propaganda show. Your right on there frozen every post you make has either the word "hate" used in it or calling real Americans racists. True to form for you. Just never stop. Thank you very much
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    Quote Originally Posted by geerair View Post
    Yeah, why supposedly informed people are shocked at the tactics employed by law enforcement is a mystery. These types of tactics have been SOP for law enforcement since man first came down out of the trees.


    Oh wait, I see now. Some folks believe these tactics were invented and first deployed 1/20/09.

    Well, that clears it up.
    No Clinton started it with the attack on a innocent man Randy Weaver whom the ATF set up by asking Randy who had no money to sell a couple of shotguns to them but first they wanted him to saw off the barrels a few inches and offered him a lot more than they were worth if he did it and he did.

    They then told him he would be arrested for "manufacturing" illegal weapons which carried a heavy sentence but would drop it if he infiltrated a militia group where he had some friends and spy on them for the ATF. He refused and you should know the rest of the story. The ATF also lied to a Federal Judge claiming that he also was a "suspect" in a bank robbery and had criminal convictions both were latter proven to be lies by the ATF. Need to get your facts straight there ace. Thank you, thank you very much
    "I could have ended the war in a month. I could have made North Vietnam look like a mud puddle."

    "I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution."
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    Quote Originally Posted by ControlsInMT View Post
    Funny, but I don't see where anyone tried to connect Obama to any of these.
    I take it you didn't read the article.

    I know it's Bush's fault.
    Again the Bush thing.

    Must be the day for political paranoia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glennac View Post
    No Clinton started it with the attack on a innocent man Randy Weaver whom the ATF set up by asking Randy who had no money to sell a couple of shotguns to them but first they wanted him to saw off the barrels a few inches and offered him a lot more than they were worth if he did it and he did.
    That kind of tactic has been standard practice for law enforcement since Jesus was a boy in short pants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geerair View Post
    I take it you didn't read the article.

    Again the Bush thing.

    Must be the day for political paranoia.
    Actually I did read the article. Perhaps your reading comprehension is still lacking as before. They noted the time frame, but did not attribute the agency's actions to any president.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glennac View Post
    No Clinton started it with the attack on a innocent man Randy Weaver whom the ATF set up by asking Randy who had no money to sell a couple of shotguns to them but first they wanted him to saw off the barrels a few inches and offered him a lot more than they were worth if he did it and he did.

    They then told him he would be arrested for "manufacturing" illegal weapons which carried a heavy sentence but would drop it if he infiltrated a militia group where he had some friends and spy on them for the ATF. He refused and you should know the rest of the story. The ATF also lied to a Federal Judge claiming that he also was a "suspect" in a bank robbery and had criminal convictions both were latter proven to be lies by the ATF. Need to get your facts straight there ace. Thank you, thank you very much
    This is an example of tyranny... a govt out of control. And this is what the founders did NOT want the USA to turn into.... they had recent experience with it from England.

    What is it about a freebee from someone else... that will get a person to sell their soul...

    Oh yeah, the idea it is free.

    Shame... wiser folks dig ditches... I wonder sometimes what an 'intellectual' is... they sure the H*LL are not smart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geerair View Post
    That kind of tactic has been standard practice for law enforcement since Jesus was a boy in short pants.
    Funny thing there ace I never heard of the ATF committing such heinous acts and violations of our rights under Republican Presidents. Just Democratic Presidents use the ATF and FBI like the old KGB. Thank you very much
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    Quote Originally Posted by glennac View Post
    Funny thing there ace I never heard of the ATF committing such heinous acts and violations of our rights under Republican Presidents. Just Democratic Presidents use the ATF and FBI like the old KGB. Thank you very much
    I would have to disagree with you. These agencies are running around trying to justify their existence. They have always "picked the low fruit" when they felt like they have needed a bolster in the public eye. It doesn't matter who is in office, they are as bad as Congress.
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