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  1. #66
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    waking up 3 in the morning and wondering why ? figures out it's the tear down I'm doing as a lead for the first time . I hope after a few more under my belt i can sleep better . i choose this trade because i really like what i do . the customers ,the pride in correcting problems . and the pay and benefits .I love my job ,but i love vacation's better .

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    Trane centravac.

    Quote Originally Posted by RACMT View Post
    I have two 400 ton Trane Centravac Chillers, I have all the maintenance manuals and break down manuals, with pressure readings. This system was installed in the late 50s early 60s. Do you think this will help? I would have to scan them as the manuals are old school but very in depth.
    Would you happen to have any manuals on a Trane cetravac sidewinder. Model # K-MF3-MV2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Healey Nut View Post
    I have another Trane chiller horror story about guys trying to overhaul chiller when they dont know the ins and outs of how they go together .
    Anyways manufacturing plant has an old Sidewinder (PCV for the non chiller types) motor fails Trane is called and condems the motor . Price is given to customer for overhaul , Customer says you gotta be freaking kidding thats way to expensive we will have our Millwrights etc do the job .
    Couple of days later Trane is called to go have a look see at the job and give some "direction" as to how the chiller comes apart . Tech Arrives at site to find the on site staff have removed the charge (dont ask how) removed electrical and terminal box motor connections and removed the motor housing bolts . They now have a gas powered fork lift hooked up to the rear of the chiller and are trying to yank the motor out the back end of the chiller without first going in the front to remove shaft locknut vanes , seals , diffusers impellers etc . Apparently there were black tire marks on the plant floor where the fork lift had made numerous "Yank" attemps at the motor . Needless to say when the Trane tech stopped them and they finally took the chiller apart is was trashed inside bent the main separation plate that separates the stages (anyone whos done a PCV knows how sturdy and thick they are ) impellers , seals , vanes etc all trashed .
    Chiller went to the dump I believe in the end .

    Moral of the story is " Sometimes you need to stand back and let the guys who know how to do it get on with it " Watch learn and ask questions .
    I'm kind of getting pushed into a similar situation here. I have started to work on chillers off and on since last year. I still have a lot to learn. I have been to a Trane RTAC chiller training in Wisconsin, but still haven't had that much experienced hands on. My company is a very small company. My boss and nobody else in my company has ever done an overhaul on a chiller. My boss said that he is planning on bidding an overhaul job and that he would send me to a training course. He said I should be fine after going to the training. I believe even after going to a week training course or how ever long it is, that you should still have an experience mechanic there to lead the job.

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    Your boss is setting you up to fail and there's a very high probability for him to lose his ass on a job like that.
    If you dont stand behind our troops, please feel free...........to stand in front of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chillrdude View Post
    Your boss is setting you up to fail and there's a very high probability for him to lose his ass on a job like that.
    I don't know how to approach the situation. I felt like telling him even after he sends me to training that I would need somebody with experience to be there to lead the job. Before I could tell him that he said "even a monkey could do this". So now it's almost like he's trying to tell me that after that training I shouldn't have room to mess up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SanchezHVAC View Post
    I don't know how to approach the situation. I felt like telling him even after he sends me to training that I would need somebody with experience to be there to lead the job. Before I could tell him that he said "even a monkey could do this". So now it's almost like he's trying to tell me that after that training I shouldn't have room to mess up.
    Start looking for a new job. He will go broke trying to fix it (I would hope it goes well for you) or he (or you) will have a ruined reputation. Either way, you will be looking for a new job. Unfortunately, if what you are saying is true, save yourself.
    "Right" is not the same as "Wise".

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    Quote Originally Posted by SanchezHVAC View Post
    I'm kind of getting pushed into a similar situation here. I have started to work on chillers off and on since last year. I still have a lot to learn. I have been to a Trane RTAC chiller training in Wisconsin, but still haven't had that much experienced hands on. My company is a very small company. My boss and nobody else in my company has ever done an overhaul on a chiller. My boss said that he is planning on bidding an overhaul job and that he would send me to a training course. He said I should be fine after going to the training. I believe even after going to a week training course or how ever long it is, that you should still have an experience mechanic there to lead the job.
    I think you are going to be fine, tell your boss to send you to the Entech training in Garland TX, there isnt really much to overhauls, lot of bull work in my opinion.
    There is not better place for the working men than the union! 100% UA the only HVAC union!

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    Quote Originally Posted by valdelocc View Post
    I think you are going to be fine, tell your boss to send you to the Entech training in Garland TX, there isnt really much to overhauls, lot of bull work in my opinion.
    What is that training consist of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SanchezHVAC View Post
    What is that training consist of?
    About 25% classroom and 75% hands on, they give you the overhaul manuals with step by step instructions and you get to do one overhaul or two.
    There is not better place for the working men than the union! 100% UA the only HVAC union!

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    hi fella i have the parts list and loads of information on this chiller email me on allen.steve186@googlemail.com

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    is there any substitute controller available for trane chiller model CVAD 27

    hi,
    i have trane old model chiller model CVAD 27,which is controller not working good,the issue is star delta starter,star is working while going to delta shorting the 3 phase line,i have check the panel,i could understand is that,main contactor is on with start contactor after while main contactor off and on,that why its getting short, looking solution

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