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    Just a simple lock on the doors might do wonders for a start. My daughter's elem. school, you can waltz right in and nobody is there to see what you are carrying, who you are, etc. There is a sign.....Visitors Please Report To Office. Hardly a security system.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh B View Post
    Actually, I am aware of a number of teachers and parents who secretly carry firearms in schools already. They may be breaking the law but they are honest, solid, dependable and trained individuals who have the mindset to stop any nonsense should it occur. I also carry consealed when attending many so called public and private events. A number of us know each other and know we all carry. Several more of us in our church also carry every Sunday and other church event and the pastor knows it and approves.

    The guns are not the problem. The problem is with demented people!
    Many folks do this... And yes, the church leadership approves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tunnel_rat View Post
    Just a simple lock on the doors might do wonders for a start. My daughter's elem. school, you can waltz right in and nobody is there to see what you are carrying, who you are, etc. There is a sign.....Visitors Please Report To Office. Hardly a security system.........
    The Sandy Hook school was locked down and had their new security policy in effect. None of it did any good. The shooter just broke a window and entered. The only thing effective at stopping a madman with a gun is another gun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh B View Post

    The Sandy Hook school was locked down and had their new security policy in effect. None of it did any good. The shooter just broke a window and entered. The only thing effective at stopping a madman with a gun is another gun!
    Or a ninja.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh B View Post
    Actually, I am aware of a number of teachers and parents who secretly carry firearms in schools already. They may be breaking the law but they are honest, solid, dependable and trained individuals who have the mindset to stop any nonsense should it occur. I also carry consealed when attending many so called public and private events. A number of us know each other and know we all carry. Several more of us in our church also carry every Sunday and other church event and the pastor knows it and approves.

    The guns are not the problem. The problem is with demented people!
    Praise god and pass the ammo.

    Just think, if Jesus had owned a semi-auto and unlimited 50 round clips there would have been none of that crucifiction business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AStudent View Post
    Or a ninja.
    In the movies...

    Seems if someone will break a window and crawl in over broken glass to shoot up a bunch of kids... we have ALREADY stepped over the line of questioning what is happening... to STOPPING IT NOW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geerair View Post
    Praise god and pass the ammo.

    Just think, if Jesus had owned a semi-auto and unlimited 50 round clips there would have been none of that crucifiction business.
    If Jesus wanted to get out of it all he had to do was twinkle in his eye. He created the world so I don't think he would have any trouble getting out of Roman hands if he wanted to. That's the point by sneering friend--without His sacrifice, the world is lost to eternal damnation because the wages of sin is death. Only through his death on the Cross and resurrection is there life eternal but only for those who believe. Since you have made it clear you don't believe, you don't need to sweat it, dude. When you're done here, you're REALLY done. Yes, I caught your snide deliberate mis-spelling. Laugh at Christ's crucifixion all you want. We'll see who's laughing in a few years when you're a cork in a pit of molten sulfur.

    All this gun control hysteria is an emotional response to an irrational act by irresponsible, selfish, insane people.

    If Obama is against gun control, let him disband the Secret Service. They carry full auto machine guns in public everyday. Who's to say one of them won't go postal one day?

    You want the people who gave full auto *assault weapons* to Mexican drug cartels for the expressed purpose of fueling murders with those weapons to draw public ire, to confiscate our guns?

    The facts, as always, speak the truth:
    -Law abiding citizens don't break laws--bad guys do. Bad guys, by definition don't obey laws. What part of that don't you people understand?
    -Since the founding of our country, there is not one shred of evidence a single gun law has prevented a maniac from killing people--none. Conversely, the presence of an armed public has and will continue to deter crime.
    -Fascist states can only complete their power grab once the guns and printing presses have been seized. This is the single greatest reason for the 2nd Amendment-retaining power with the people against the few power grabbers. Failure to abide by this fact has cost the world a few hundred million lives since the 2nd Amendment was written.
    -There was no sunset on this Amendment for time or technology. In fact, the writers knew technology and society would evolve but this was one right that must never be lost because ONLY through an armed public is there truly freedom. It is such a fact that it is a very accurate barometer as to who wants to take your rights away and enslave you. The more they call for gun control, the more they are waving a neon sign showing the world they are only interested in taking your rights.
    -A favorite tactic of the fascists is to take a fact and try to flip it against your opponent. The Left claims gun ownership advocates actually want to see people killed by guns. Aside from how sick and perverted this concept is, let's look at the practical truth: the NRA takes heat after shootings so why would they want more? The Left enjoys an open mic. to babble like monkeys about gun control after every incident so who benefits more? The gun owners are traditionally defenders of the Constitution whereas the Left is the avowed enemy of the Constitution and the republic. The gun owners typically are against abortion while the Left is constantly adding more and more ways to murder more and more babies. So who's the killer here? These same hippies protested against US soldiers in Vietnam as "baby killers" then stepped into the polls to vote for abortion. Responsible gun owners could storm Congress and wipe them out any time they wanted to. They don't because they don't believe in murder. However, Congress better behave because the day they are perceived as true mortal enemies of the republic, the armed public just may march on DC and fire these bast@ards.
    -tens of thousands of G.I.'s came home from WWII and legally bought M-1 Garand main battle rifles. That's an 8 shot very powerful combat rifle in civilian hands. There have been ZERO mass shootings with these rifles since they were released to the public--ZERO!
    -Crime is the highest in so called "gun free zones" . It is lowest is areas where guns are permitted, especially CCW.
    -Kennesaw, Ga.--enough said
    -Switzerland--enough said
    -Israel-enough said
    -Australia-enough said (gun control failure)
    -UK- enough said (gun control failure)

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