There seems to be alot of goodman/amana dealers here for the number of guys that bash them.
American Standard
Bryant
Carrier
Goodman/Amana
ICP (Comfortmaker, Heil, Tempstar, Arcoaire)
Lennox
Nordyne (Maytag, Frigidaire, Tappan, Westinghouse)
Rheem/Ruud
Trane
Whirlpool
York
Other
i agree on the call backs. One company i worked for we had alot of call backs on Goodmans that were <2 years old, most calls we've have on carriers or trane's were mostly older units that were still going strong, they just needed wear and tear repairs like contactors, capacitors, refrigerant charge etc.
There seems to be alot of goodman/amana dealers here for the number of guys that bash them.
"Better tell the sandman to stay away, because we're gonna be workin on this one all night."
"Dude, you need more than 2 wires to a condenser to run a 2 stage heatpump."
"Just get it done son."
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Luxaire/Coleman (york), Allied (Ducane), some Rheem
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Trane mostly, some Goodman(I don't have a problem with Goodman and consider it a good product but EVERYBODY in DFW sells it). I have been considering Tappan in place of Goodman through Standard Supply but not sold on it yet. Anyone have any feedback on Tappan?
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I note there are no boiler in the survey and the only forced air i do is air handlers off boilers. Are we that rare outside the big cities?
I note that we just had a poll about who hates to service Lennox. That is odd since according to THIS poll, more dealers carry Lennox than any other brand.
As of 2-22-2012 at 6:30 PM.
Remember, Air Conditioning begins with AIR.
May I assume that you guys are only putting down your top brand and not all brands that you sell? I just don't see some of the lower costing lines not having a lot more votes.
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Can we vote more than once? I sell 4 brands.
Remember, Air Conditioning begins with AIR.
how come bryant is listing by it self from Carrer/Payne?
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*Installation is more important than the brand of equipment
*The duct system keeps the house comfortable; the equipment only heats and cools (and dehumidifies)
*The value of comfort, over the long term; leave economic choices behind!
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We had a Ducane distributor here for a few years, several years ago.
Sold a few furnaces, and lots of condensing units. I really liked that they carried a dedicated "old-style" horizontal gas furnace. Made lots of change-outs a lot easier.
The condensing units were fine, except that they had a lot of sharp edges.
Technical incompetence is NOT a sales tool....
Ducane and Concorde are the 'builder' grade from Allied air.
Yes, Ducane offers (still do) a dedicated horizontal (I get them by special order, 2 days away). The condensers look similar to the lite brown Goodmans in the early 2000's.
The furnaces are ALL the same, they ALL (Allied Air and Lennox) come from the Marshalltown Lennox plant. As others have said... the differences between Lennox and Allied Air are diminishing.
I have put Ducane in lots of rentals and low budget commercial installs... they seem to work fine. The AC and HP have a high pressure switch, but no low pressure switch... I would prefer both. Otherwise, they are just another cube shaped condenser or HP. The coils are ADP with MicroBan.
Allied Air offers the 10 yr warranty on all their lines (registered by HO).
GA-HVAC-Tech
Your comfort, Your way, Everyday!
GA's basic rules of home heating and AC upgrades:
*Installation is more important than the brand of equipment
*The duct system keeps the house comfortable; the equipment only heats and cools (and dehumidifies)
*The value of comfort, over the long term; leave economic choices behind!
Choose your contractor wisely!
I haven't seen any of Lennox's subsidiaries up north, mostly just Lennox Branded gear up here. Even at the parts plus stores i've never seen their variants. Decent equipment? My first company I worked for would brand themselves as a "trane dealer" but they would honestly sell anything a customer wanted which made things complicated. We sold Trane to our higher end clients, rheem and goodman to economy customers, if someone requested carrier we would do it for them it was real complicated but I had a good feel for the brands, I personally wasn't a fan of Goodman, we would have issues with units <5 years old all the time and pretty big repairs too. Second company I worked for we did Bryant commercial and I had no issues with their rooftop units.
Company I work for now is Carrier/Payne dealer, expensive gear but like Trane it has a great reputation and longevity
1. Trane (higher end resi clients, primarily for commercial spec jobs, hate their "cheap" resi equipment.
2. Goodman (economic choice for both resi and commercial change out market)
3. Tempstar (new const and rent houses)
Not afraid to sell other products and I do sell a small amount of Bryant. My company was almost exclusively Bryant for about 20 years up until about 1999. Had way too many warranty problems with their equipment and then started selling Tappan for about five years.
Haven't sold Tappan in about 7 or 8 years but we loved the Nordyne products, the local distributor just wasnt providing the proper support for the product. Nobody replaced Tappan in this market when they were dropped. We looked at Frigidaire and Westinghouse but wasn't overly happy with their respective distributors.
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I have been selling Trane for the last year and a half now. So far I am very satisfied with them. The company I previously worked for sold mostly Lennox with some AS and Carrier.
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