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    Any of those are fine. Whichever current switch...

    Any of those are fine. Whichever current switch that you prefer. Iíve used all varieties with similar results. Had a high failure rate with senva current switches when they first came out. Ymmv.
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    If itís a Summit AOP itís going to be under...

    If itís a Summit AOP itís going to be under Setup>Inouts/Outputs/AnalogOutputs
    If youíre getting the error trying to change it from the 581 display, itís going to be under displays/ďdisplayNameHereĒ...
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    I sent a link to the email in your file.

    I sent a link to the email in your file.
  4. The best sure fire way is to remove the BCI-R...

    The best sure fire way is to remove the BCI-R from the circuit. Thereís a daisy chain of power (red/blue and comm black/black) that connects from board to board.
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    Welcome to the controls world. The equipment...

    Welcome to the controls world.

    The equipment keys and the terrible, horrible, down right atrocious PPS that Trane essentially makes you use are complete garbage. But hey, anything to save a buck....
  6. Neither of those. Should be a programmable...

    Neither of those. Should be a programmable controller capable of functioning without the ďbrainĒ. The JACE IO should be relegated to non critical points IMO.

    I would not recommend controlling the...
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    When youíre on the JACE, can you see values...

    When youíre on the JACE, can you see values changing when you change them on the SC?

    Should be easy to find where the data is getting held up. Either the SC isnít sending values correctly to the...
  8. Make sure BO1 is set for BAS control. Another...

    Make sure BO1 is set for BAS control. Another thing to look out for is the point service. Trane defaults a large amount of non-essential points to ďout of service=trueĒ. Stuff like space temp BAS...
  9. Determining Trane Comm3 or 4 for Niagara integrations

    Iím about 90% sure that the scroll chiller machines CGAx are only able to be isolated comm3. Even though there is a daughter board and the dip switches. I donít recall exactly, but I would venture to...
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    7.1 SP13 is fine. The 7.2 added capability to do...

    7.1 SP13 is fine. The 7.2 added capability to do a pass though (like on Summit) if you have Lon on an SC. Iíve never personally used it, I still have 7.1 sp13.

    If youíre getting upload failure,...
  11. Yes, look at the building control unit (BCU), or...

    Yes, look at the building control unit (BCU), or if Summit is running, look at site configuration or setup/controllers.

    isolated comm 3 stuff will have a small isolation transformer, about 1Ē in...
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    Is this COM3 or COM4 Trane???

    I used the comfortsite link from Trane. If you have an account with Trane parts they can set you up. You can view pricing, availability, etc.

    Edit: You can also use the Trane 360 app.
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    If I searched that number correctly, thatís a UCM...

    If I searched that number correctly, thatís a UCM 4.2 vav controller, which is comm4.
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    Curious, what is the need to upgrade the fw, is...

    Curious, what is the need to upgrade the fw, is there a security issue or something?
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    Send me your email and Iíll send you a link to my...

    Send me your email and Iíll send you a link to my google drive or dropbox with sp18 for V17.

    Essentially, you want to backup whatís on the PC JIC. Then start with blank database, and try to...
  16. Thread: Rover V7.2

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    Are you using Rover, or the lns plugins? Iíve...

    Are you using Rover, or the lns plugins? Iíve never seen that message before.
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    To confirm the above, go to view/objects and...

    To confirm the above, go to view/objects and properties, then select MP580/581 from the device type, then one of the 580ís. In the properties list, select lontalk dsn to see what the BCU expects the...
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    Never had anything like that happen. I had an...

    Never had anything like that happen. I had an instance where trying to control pam-1 relays from the triacs wouldnít work unless we added 500ohm(I think thatís what they were) resistors across the...
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    You canít see chillers (comm4) with rover. ...

    You canít see chillers (comm4) with rover.
    Rover will discover and show you Ipaks, voyager/precedents but you canít do anything with them (comm4). You can only edit/view the comm4 vav controllers...
  20. Thread: Danfoss VFD

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    Not sure which model you have, but out of my...

    Not sure which model you have, but out of my Trane TR200 manual (equal to VLT-6000 I believe), it says...
    "If the intermediate circuit voltage exceeds the limit, the frequency converter trips after...
  21. I havenít done this in a while, but what you...

    I havenít done this in a while, but what you describe sounds correct. IIRC, it should switch action when the entering temp is 10deg or more above the zone temp. Shouldnít matter if you set it up as...
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    Iíve never tried to do anything like that, but...

    Iíve never tried to do anything like that, but you could make a px include that has the fully functional menu. Use it on all of your other graphics, and place your second greyed out button image on...
  23. Thread: TRIACS

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    Yes Trane ZN520/521 510/511 use triac outputs....

    Yes Trane ZN520/521 510/511 use triac outputs. Trane always sends positive through the load to the BO. This is how their ZN WSHP alarms on HI/LO Pressure cutout. They series power through the high...
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    Learn something everyday. Good info for sure.

    Learn something everyday. Good info for sure.
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    You canít pw protect the mini-monitor connection....

    You canít pw protect the mini-monitor connection.

    There is a login feature that allows you access to additional settings/info that requires a password to access. When you login, it generates a...
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    It sounds like you're describing an Intellipak...

    It sounds like you're describing an Intellipak RTU. Lon would be the easiest option with the scenario that you described. I don't have any experience pulling one into something other than Trane...
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    The scaling for the inputs is in UPCM edit. There...

    The scaling for the inputs is in UPCM edit. There is a program (range and offset) that tells you how to configure an input for a specific valve. There are also jumpers on the UPCM input card for...
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    Yes, port 23 is what you want to block. There is...

    Yes, port 23 is what you want to block. There is not a way to PW protect it that I am aware of.
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    The ďfreeĒ version of TU that they put out for...

    The ďfreeĒ version of TU that they put out for TAB contractors is surprisingly useful to identify problems. You canít modify or change things, but you can look at status and alarms etc.

    I say...
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    Sounds to me like the SC might have BBMD enabled....

    Sounds to me like the SC might have BBMD enabled. Are you able to login to the SC to make changes? If Trane pulled the VRF panels into the SC, Iím betting they used BACnet/IP and the SC is setup as...
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    Everything lives on the plant BCU. ES is just...

    Everything lives on the plant BCU. ES is just supervisory. For graphics, trending, easier use (not locked to a work station). No logic or schedules etc actually reside on/in ES.

    I was referring...
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    Shouldnít be an issue. Itís most likely running...

    Shouldnít be an issue. Itís most likely running SQL express, which was the cheaper version of ES when it came out. Trane called it ES express. Gets the name from the no cost sql express from...
  33. Do you have local times override buttons on the...

    Do you have local times override buttons on the zone sensors? Thatís most likely what is causing the issue.

    If you edit the area, you can uncheck the box for allow tov under the members tab.
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    When youíre connected to the BCU, wait until you...

    When youíre connected to the BCU, wait until you get a database sync. In the system tray, double click the summit icon and a window will pop up. When the database sync says yes, close the window.
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    Check to make sure that your connection method is...

    Check to make sure that your connection method is still good. Can you connect hyperterminal or putty (mini-monitor port). It might be setup for Ethernet.

    Also, try a cross over cable. The older...
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    I don't see that exact text listed for...

    I don't see that exact text listed for nvoAlarmMessage in the integration guide. Not to say that it isn't what you're seeing, or that the guide is just missing it. Anyway, yes as ray stated, the...
  37. I don't believe that functionality is included...

    I don't believe that functionality is included with the BACnet Setup tool. The readme file list the capabilities as follows:

    Toggle the source of setpoint and sensor values between BAS...
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    You can use CO2. It should be in the IOM, might...

    You can use CO2. It should be in the IOM, might be called demand controlled ventilation (dcv). For the economizer, if youíre controlling it via BACnet, it will be at min position (which has a max...
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    You can use the BACnet setup tool and change...

    You can use the BACnet setup tool and change system units/baud rate etc. Just search for Trane BACnet setup tool. It's a free download.
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    Yes, you can use terminals 1&2 with a 10k2 sensor...

    Yes, you can use terminals 1&2 with a 10k2 sensor and control the unit via BACnet. BO1 has to be in BAS control, otherwise it will ignore any communicated values that you send it.
  41. Default is Ethernet. You have to manually enable...

    Default is Ethernet. You have to manually enable IP, locally at the panel. Not able to be done remotely.
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    If itís only 12 devices, itís probably more cost...

    If itís only 12 devices, itís probably more cost effective to retrofit them to your controller depending on what you have available and what control you want. The gateway or driver are both expensive...
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    Are the RTUís and VAVís Lon currently? Whatís...

    Are the RTUís and VAVís Lon currently? Whatís controlling the lighting contactors, MP503?

    If itís already Lon you can pull them into the JACE. If theyíre not Lon youíll either need to driver or...
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    Couple of things, if you edit the standard SCC...

    Couple of things, if you edit the standard SCC graphic, it will edit the graphic for each piece of equipment that is using that graphic, but it will not overwrite the standard graphic. It will save...
  45. I would make your own network, no router...

    I would make your own network, no router necessary. Set IP’s for devices incrementally so 192.168.1.10 .11 .12 etc. Define one BCU (usually BCU-1 or the main/first BCU) as the BBMD device. Define...
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    I believe punk is onto something. If it's the...

    I believe punk is onto something. If it's the supervisor like stated, any domain user account should login to the platform, or at least the active account that is logged into the machine that you're...
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    Where is the Controls pro forum? I see...

    Where is the Controls pro forum? I see Chillers/oil burners/etc listed under pro, but not controls?
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    It's been a couple of years since I worked for...

    It's been a couple of years since I worked for Trane, but at the time, there was no magic backdoor or super admin password. Most likely they'll have to contact Trane, and they should be able to...
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    Having a BBMD doesn't mean that there are other...

    Having a BBMD doesn't mean that there are other devices on different subnets. If the Tracer Summit workstation is communicating with the BCU over the network (BACnet/IP), then it requires a BBMD. ...
  50. You do not have to perform the clear ram reset....

    You do not have to perform the clear ram reset. It will not hurt anything if you leave the old NID in the system. It's the only way to perform 'maintenance' on the peak (Lon) database of the BCU....
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