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  1. Bump Good stuff

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    It is possible my info is dated, as I appear to...

    It is possible my info is dated, as I appear to now be where you were previous to rev 1.8. I have worked with 2.0 some, still not tremendously impressed.
    The OP is likely not looking for a fight as...
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    Sam, this is where I go out and find a cable that...

    Sam, this is where I go out and find a cable that looks good and put the part number into my RS485 cheat sheet (as I am a good figure-out-er and a bad rememberer). In the interests of self serving...
  4. Set the fallback value.... if this type of point...

    Set the fallback value.... if this type of point has one.
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    The conversions we have done vary in this regard....

    The conversions we have done vary in this regard. The Infinet controllers need to be at the newest firmware rev to live with an AS (The Struxureware supervisor). Usually some, as much as 1/3 of the...
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    Get ready to hear a lot of this... If you are...

    Get ready to hear a lot of this...
    If you are looking for reliability, then do not do all your processing in the JACE.
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    I do... and have. This is not an invitation for...

    I do... and have.
    This is not an invitation for people to start bothering me for a copy, I just know that my laptop will die. The license is tied to the machine that you used to first open the file....
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    It seems like anyone CAN sell Distech... so maybe...

    It seems like anyone CAN sell Distech... so maybe you can become company #2...
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    Helpful! Thanks JCIMan So I should start...

    Helpful! Thanks JCIMan

    So I should start seeing it in Rev10.0/10.1 all over.

    Any news on the transferability of GGT to MUI? Conversion tools and such? GGT was VERY easy to work with, is MUI...
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    I figured as much. Now that I look it does say...

    I figured as much. Now that I look it does say capacitance on that field not Impedance. Woops!
    Especially with the Zo free wire having possible variance between batches - that means if Johnson...
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    Interesting! I was not clear, everything in my...

    Interesting!

    I was not clear, everything in my last few posts had the newer more modern Johnson Bacnet controllers in mind. I mentioned the N2 conversion as a way of illustrating the value of...
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    Oh, I see. When did MUI start? In our locality I...

    Oh, I see. When did MUI start? In our locality I have only seen GGT (and older). We have a few 8.1 and 9.0 jobs out, all in GGT.
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    Cool, thanks! So the Graphics Package and...

    Cool, thanks!

    So the Graphics Package and Editor are transitional? Started in 8.1, ends in 9.0?
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    When I look at the part number for the FC bus...

    No that one, I included the document I found the recommendation in in my original post. However when you compare them, the recommended part numbers are the same.[/QUOTE]

    When I look at the part...
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    So the Graphics Package and Editor are...

    So the Graphics Package and Editor are transitional?

    Can you please define MUI?

    Thanks for the responses!
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    I make note of these in my personal collection of...

    I make note of these in my personal collection of RS485 info. Please feel free to throw more of these tidbits. I research every one.
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    Perhaps the 'first' issue is that the RS485 spec...

    Perhaps the 'first' issue is that the RS485 spec is open yet costs $100+. So we are all left with rumors as to what is in there, and it does not help that what is actually in there is vague for our...
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    How is it working with the Graphics Package and...

    How is it working with the Graphics Package and Editor?

    Is it like GGT? It would seem like the Silverlight route was an easy way to get to market, and they would reengineer to guts to get away...
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    I got only halfway through the thread - so I...

    I got only halfway through the thread - so I apologize if I post something that was already said.

    The current wire specifications from johnson tend to provide very reliable comms. They use an...
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    I have worked with Continuum and with...

    I have worked with Continuum and with Struxureware - the philosophy seems to have been to make Struxureware as complicated to deal with as possible - from a programming perspective. Guys who love it...
  21. I agree - or that you have the wires hooked up...

    I agree - or that you have the wires hooked up correctly, and that the bus voltages are ok? If you set YABE to a come on the trunk at a particular MSTP MAC, is that duplicated elsewhere on the trunk?...
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    Is Johnson Controls GGT Retiring?

    I was downloading Microsoft Silverlight the other day and saw a banner saying it was ending support in Octorber 2021. Since Johnson Controls Graphics Generation Tool relies on MS Silverlight, I was...
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    Likely it is because the passphrase on the...

    Likely it is because the passphrase on the stations is different than the one on your laptop. Do a search of the site here and you will find instructions on removing the passphrase on the stations....
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    You can go to their website and email or call...

    You can go to their website and email or call them. I do that on occasion.
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    When in doubt, take a station copy, clean .dist...

    When in doubt, take a station copy, clean .dist the thing, and build it from scratch with the distech .dist and everything from the ground up.
    A clean .dist always removes everything, but unlike a...
  26. Also, I know of no controls guy who would see a...

    Also, I know of no controls guy who would see a supply fan as a stand alone mechanical system, instead it is only one part of an AHU. The AHU is a mechanical system. The AHU can operate just fine if...
  27. I think many would take issue with counting a VFD...

    I think many would take issue with counting a VFD as a controller. I see your thought process, but a controls guy would not immediately see things that way.
    If you wait for them to design their...
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    Elaborate. If this was done by any other means...

    Elaborate.
    If this was done by any other means than the commissioning wizard, that is likely your issue. Figure out what you changed and put it back.
    The commissioning wizard checks dependencies...
  29. Double click the bog file so it shows the...

    Double click the bog file so it shows the properties view on the right. There is a option under the file tab to reset passphrase, and an icon you almost never see active accross the top that has a...
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    My first balancing job was a morgue. We were the...

    My first balancing job was a morgue. We were the sheet metal contractor. I was trying to find out if our stuff was installed right, and if we were anywhere near flow. I had an old analog hood that...
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    It seems like the sweet spot, like wayne said, is...

    It seems like the sweet spot, like wayne said, is the diagnostic balance. Anyone can say 'its broken' but when you can tell people what needs changed to fix it, then you get brought back... on those...
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    Your expected leaving water temp on a tower is...

    Your expected leaving water temp on a tower is within 0 to 3 degrees of the wet bulb temp if the tower is open. If it is closed add a few degrees (up to 10) for the HX approach.
    Now you know if a...
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    I was wondering how it was going... Thanks for...

    I was wondering how it was going... Thanks for the update!
    I use an aerosol can evap cleaner spray. Smells nice. Rinses with the condensate. I have used something stronger at a restaraunt that had...
  34. Years ago, my boss gave me a service call to go...

    Years ago, my boss gave me a service call to go to his home with him. He was sick of heating his pool and cooling his house at the same time, so the project was to convert his upstairs 3 ton unit to...
  35. I love pictures! I have frankenstined several...

    I love pictures!

    I have frankenstined several systems like this before, and seen it done. Speaking in broad terms to someone who has an unknown comfort with designing refrigerant system from the...
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    That is good advice. The focus here, windpoint is...

    That is good advice. The focus here, windpoint is do not use too much. I understand this is a long standing issue and you want it fixed, but trying your best to go as strong as possible is very...
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    Translation: Customer decided to pay me double...

    Translation:
    Customer decided to pay me double to do the job twice by changing the job at the end.

    The n4mig command does not work in the other direction. At least not that I am aware of.
    ...
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    I would be curious to know what product they use?...

    I would be curious to know what product they use? It would seem to be pretty enough to get the owners on board.

    Do you happen to know? Always looking to broaden my horizons.
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    It is not hard to play that game... hehe...

    It is not hard to play that game... hehe https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190810/27e63529c00037ec8ffafae96ef9db1e.jpg

    Good job with the cheaper pressure washer. Hope it works as well for the op...
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    Too late, I want my money back. [emoji16]

    Too late, I want my money back.

    [emoji16]
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    It seems like one could just stand in a different...

    It seems like one could just stand in a different spot and forego the use of the 90 deg adapter. Am I seeing it wrong? Oh! Maybe that is so you can remove the condenser fan and come in that way?
    ...
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    I happened to be on a jobsite with a guy who...

    I happened to be on a jobsite with a guy who showed me his workbench and asked this exact question. Turns out I was sitting next to C693. Funny how that works sometimes...

    We looked around and saw...
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    Then you were not using it correctly, or you had...

    Then you were not using it correctly, or you had the wrong nozzle. The pressure does help clean the coil, but the chemical is the real reason the coils are cleaned. You just need pressure to get...
  44. I think the temp from vav 3 is put on the graphic...

    I think the temp from vav 3 is put on the graphic at the vav4 spot maybe. Some sort of mix up like that. The stats also at times have an offset internally. Check the stat settings internally
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    If the customer is large enough ,I will show the...

    If the customer is large enough ,I will show the requirements for VPN and encryption and such. Then go with a puzzled look and ask "you mean to dont ALREADY have this in place?" Works often....
    ...
  46. Sometimes the customers see the setpoint and...

    Sometimes the customers see the setpoint and think it is the space temp. Depends on how it is setup and how they are trained on it.
  47. I think you are finding we do not really like...

    I think you are finding we do not really like either drawing. You may wish to put together a 3rd option...

    In general the smarter the controller, the less reliable it is. JACEs are pretty smart,...
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    Handy! You got a link for that by chance?

    Handy! You got a link for that by chance?
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    There is also Distech Eclypse. I do work with...

    There is also Distech Eclypse. I do work with them all the time. IP based. Works good.
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    ...mmmmmmm now I am hungry....

    ...mmmmmmm now I am hungry....
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