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    That certainly could fill ones shorts. Fluke...

    That certainly could fill ones shorts.

    Fluke 289, blew the ma fuse at some point. Needed to check a 4-20ma circuit and figured out the stupid $15 fuse was still blown. Wrapped it to get'er'done....
  2. Thread: Spyder 5 VAV

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    That would be a heck of a lot faster than I...

    That would be a heck of a lot faster than I remember. Haven't been blessed with spudder in a long time. Hope it stays that way.

    Might have a heatpump job coming up with these. Hoping I dodge...
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    The ol wire around the fuse trick or harbor...

    The ol wire around the fuse trick or harbor freight meter?
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    Ditto. Might want to put a deadband on your...

    Ditto.

    Might want to put a deadband on your set point when the valve is <25% open to try and keep it from hunting all the time.
  5. Thread: Spyder 5 VAV

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    How is the speed on them? Say standard timed...

    How is the speed on them?

    Say standard timed override button, just a contact closure. Do you have to hold the button and count to 50 like spudder or is it tap and go?
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    Lol. Got lit up this week as well which is very...

    Lol. Got lit up this week as well which is very rare. Damn single strand 180 deg outside a wire nut through me to the ceiling grid. Somehow OSHA / building inspectors will let HVAC equipment be...
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    You can bet the farm on that 9/10 times,...

    You can bet the farm on that 9/10 times, especially with valves sizes in that application.

    Early deaths like your talking about and given the application almost always one of two things. ...
  8. Sticky: Had to look at this again since it didn't add up....

    Had to look at this again since it didn't add up.

    Jace in the field with MSTP, you setup this to capture. Its spewing this traffic to another machine running WS. The machine running WS is...
  9. Thread: VPN Routers

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    Would check and make sure you have the right...

    Would check and make sure you have the right model number. Seems they now have 50 versions of the BR1 and they all have similar part #s.

    SSO lol, think they missed that memo.
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    And in case you missed another change in N4.9,...

    And in case you missed another change in N4.9, the documentation is no longer included in the installer.

    Have to download that separately via niag central, just to make things easy of course.
    ...
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    Welcome. Likely will make some notes available...

    Welcome. Likely will make some notes available on working with this. Seems like a feature I'll be a broken record internally as each tech runs into this the first few times without notes. Pricing...
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    Doubt that. Just pointing out a lgeit cert is...

    Doubt that. Just pointing out a lgeit cert is not require in 4.10 and it doesn't sound like that will change. Its typical Niagara, all the info is scattered about. What looks to be complete never...
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    So fiddling around with this process in Niagara...

    So fiddling around with this process in Niagara and diving in the docs, looks like I had some of the info wrong.

    docModuleSign

    Verification modes


    Low — Any modules that are not signed or...
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    Of course and that makes me smile every time. ...

    Of course and that makes me smile every time. Normally the code I hear around here is 'delivering freedom'.
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    Simple is not flexible and flexible is not...

    Simple is not flexible and flexible is not simple.

    Tridium is really pushing security forward on these systems. Probably leading that in many ways with secure boot, code signing, etc.

    Some...
  16. Thread: Spyder 5 VAV

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    Well you missed a real treat. Couldn't have made...

    Well you missed a real treat. Couldn't have made the firmware upgrade a bigger nightmare.

    They add a bacnet point and shift around all the BACnet object instances, well the firmware upgrade...
  17. Thread: Spyder 5 VAV

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    There are two jars, downloadclient.jar &...

    There are two jars, downloadclient.jar & downloadservice.jar. Originally for updating the firmware in the miserable visionpro, touchview, VLD series bacnet stats. You drop the firmware on the jace...
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    Indeed That is how it should be. I get a...

    Indeed

    That is how it should be. I get a driver from Maxline and its signed by them. When things are floating around signed by 2-3 parties removed from original developer or by the Hong Kong...
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    Hmm. Sounding more and more like that jar may...

    Hmm. Sounding more and more like that jar may need to fade away.

    Seems like this has the potential to turn into a real mess. Say a customer requires this and is serious about it. Now you got...
  20. Thread: Spyder 5 VAV

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    Yea, little... Go big or go home lol. Let...

    Yea, little...



    Go big or go home lol. Let us know how that guy works out. Especially boot time with a fair sized plant.



    Does the HW download client jar not work with them? Found it...
  21. Thread: Spyder 5 VAV

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    #6 & #10 seem like a huge improvements. Would be...

    #6 & #10 seem like a huge improvements. Would be screaming for them to update all the other models.
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    What link you clicking? 819262

    What link you clicking?

    819262
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    Prefect more $hitmail, just what I was looking...

    Prefect more $hitmail, just what I was looking for.



    Would think its possible but really haven't dove into how exactly signing works on a file. How much trust is there in something on github...
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    Agree. It is a PITA that seems to have a...

    Agree. It is a PITA that seems to have a marginal benefit. Most installs are simply not going to go through this hassle and just stop using unsigned crap when it comes down to that. Many don't...
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    and hopefully enjoy another ~3 decades of never...

    and hopefully enjoy another ~3 decades of never looking at it again.
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    Lol. Throw it a retirement party and kick it out...

    Lol. Throw it a retirement party and kick it out the door with a golden timex.
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    https://comodosslstore.com/ssl-validation-process...

    https://comodosslstore.com/ssl-validation-process

    Gonna fall under OV or EV for code singing depending on what you shoot for.
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    By default, though they claim you can change it...

    By default, though they claim you can change it to allow selfies. How many versions past 4.10, probably none.



    The more likely case would be your company gets a valid code signing cert, sign...
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    For the number of I/O that looks to be, I don't...

    For the number of I/O that looks to be, I don't know why I would be going through emotional gymnastics to carry that hardware forward. What's it's cost to send a guy into the heart of rona to take...
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    Have a HW unit in my attic that the 3/4" copper...

    Have a HW unit in my attic that the 3/4" copper had no insulation ran right to it. In the far NE so yea, it gets below freezing. Even insulated, I don't trust it. 2 story house plus basement, I...
  31. Thread: Spyder 5 VAV

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    Somewhat surprised they developed this with only...

    Somewhat surprised they developed this with only MS/TP. Seems like this with both IP/mstp would be better than the waste of time on the ciper30 vav. Have to wonder how much longer the spudder...
  32. Thread: HW Ciper

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    Whats the time on the 50? Even at 2.5min, for...

    Whats the time on the 50?

    Even at 2.5min, for a heat pump central plant on a design HDD or CDD this is not good. If ACE is limited to local I/O and drivers like BACnet have to wait for full...
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    Haven't, you?

    If it works without a lot of fiddling, sounds nice to have. Seems like you just want to setup a capture filter to dump the ICMP fails and tell WS what its digesting.
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    Its really only a hassle for AX com and any...

    Its really only a hassle for AX com and any custom program objects. Most everything else will be signed by the developers assuming its maintained.



    Boiled down, its to try and make sure no...
  35. Should have a web server that you can use to...

    Should have a web server that you can use to confirm the mappings are gone. They also have some software that can be used. That's the easy part.

    Would call york and hope you get someone with a...
  36. Sounds like the fieldserver lost its config. ...

    Sounds like the fieldserver lost its config. Your in for a real treat if that's the case. Miserable things...
  37. Thread: Bacnet Router

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    Actually the BACRouter with the added BACnet...

    Actually the BACRouter with the added BACnet control of the capture, best diagnostics tool for a MSTP router I have seen.

    It has all the diag details you want but the capture options are unmatched...
  38. Thread: Bacnet Router

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    Ditto for cost and features on the BACRouter. ...

    Ditto for cost and features on the BACRouter.

    Diag features are pretty equal to anything else on the market, including the loytec. Out of box performance was better on the BACRouter than the...
  39. Down and dirty for home, look into sonoff. ...

    Down and dirty for home, look into sonoff.

    Would wall off IoS from my network, put it in a fire proof enclosure and use a burner phone to control it if it was my house. Its dirt cheap and wifi if...
  40. Thread: VPN Routers

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    Indeed, hoping this can remove the need for any...

    Indeed, hoping this can remove the need for any more junk on the remote side. I haven't had a chance to sit back down with it again before I start firing off service tickets. Sounds like the ticket...
  41. EM power on some, not others + daisy chain...

    EM power on some, not others + daisy chain ethernet...

    Sounding more like a mess.
  42. 1. Home run everything. 2. Run things in a loop...

    1. Home run everything.
    2. Run things in a loop and use switches with STP/RSTP.
    3. Get better controllers that connect through on power loss, though that fails if the combined distance is too far....
  43. Thread: HW Ciper

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    Pretty sure all three cipers are from totally...

    Pretty sure all three cipers are from totally different RnD teams. The 50 was something they imported from euro land and slapped their label on it.

    Which would explain why there is little in...
  44. Thread: HW Ciper

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    Various shades of failure? Checked with a few...

    Various shades of failure?

    Checked with a few of our other vendors as this seemed quite low for a product like this. It was quite a bit lower than the answers I got back.
  45. Thread: HW Ciper

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    Mean Time Between Failure

    Mean Time Between Failure
  46. Thread: VPN Routers

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    Started getting them from 3Gstore.com, then...

    Started getting them from 3Gstore.com, then 4Gstore.com and wouldn't you know they are the 5Gstore.com now. Got a few from Amazon as well.

    Kinda annoying when using password managers and the...
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    Try %alarmData.normalTime%

    Try %alarmData.normalTime%
  48. Thread: HW Ciper

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    I think some intern putting the datasheet...

    I think some intern putting the datasheet together thought 10yrs sounded like a long time and put it in there. Clearly has to be a mistake if that is the correct figure.

    There are a handful of...
  49. Thread: HW Ciper

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    Think I found what I needed. 10 is the only...

    Think I found what I needed.

    10 is the only one with ACE support
    30 is the only one with Silk support.

    Anyone catch that HW lists the MTBF of the Ciper10 on the data sheet?
    ...
  50. Thread: HW Ciper

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    HW Ciper

    I know the Ciper10 support ACE, but do the other models? Seems kinda backwards that your unitary controller would support fast boot, but the larger plant type controllers wouldn't.

    Also do any of...
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