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  1. Thread: Going Pro

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    I got my pro membership with my mechanical...

    I got my pro membership with my mechanical qualifications. Then got involved with BMS later. So focus on the mechanical qualifications. Give them a lot, expect them to turn you down, ask them what...
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    They were on Niagara with an OLD Digilux front...

    They were on Niagara with an OLD Digilux front end. It used flash, and by extension, older Delta used that as well.
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    Hehe, we have been preparing for that for the...

    Hehe, we have been preparing for that for the last year. I have 4 or 5 sites that have flash front ends and we were migrating the graphics. I have 1 that we had a proposal for and they never bit. ...
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    Filtering inputs is often done with a moving or...

    Filtering inputs is often done with a moving or rolling average. If the rolling average is accross a 30 second period, it will produce the issues you are seeing. If the rolling average is a 5 second...
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    200 units is peanuts... last internal statistic I...

    200 units is peanuts... last internal statistic I had from around 7 years ago put the truck-based workforce at over 10k, and I think it was over 13k. 200 units would likely not even be one per US...
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    Hahaha!! I always wondered why there never was a...

    Hahaha!!
    I always wondered why there never was a Bacnet version of the Commbus quicktester as N2 faded... sounds about right
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    If I hada waited just another 30 to 40 minutes to...

    If I hada waited just another 30 to 40 minutes to post I wuda been up to my armpits in a proprietary TUX stuff with the 8vdc bus - challenging my 'Alerton always did BacNet' worldview - and it might...
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    Hehe good for you!

    Hehe good for you!
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    The BCMs very well might have logic in them. It...

    The BCMs very well might have logic in them. It is programmed the same way controllers are.
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    Ya know, there is a 1.5 pair, lo cap, bacnet wire...

    Ya know, there is a 1.5 pair, lo cap, bacnet wire sold that JCI COULD use.... in case you needed to add verbiage like that in your future specs. I can dig up a part # if you have trouble finding it....
  11. Thanks Digo I swear I cannot find a thing ever on...

    Thanks Digo I swear I cannot find a thing ever on there....

    Anyway, the suggested solution is to:
    Of course the reason for the conversion is that they already have all 3 of these, but the TUX...
  12. I can't find a thing. The search feature on there...

    I can't find a thing. The search feature on there really sucks....
  13. No no more BCM-TUX, but the ACM has a TUX option...

    No no more BCM-TUX, but the ACM has a TUX option card.... seems promising
  14. Alerton TUX system conversion to Niagara

    I got a building full of TUX controllers from Alerton. Can a JACE talk to these? I did a ctrl+f search of my price list and I got no hits for Alerton or TUX.
    The BCMs on-site will not talk to...
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    You gotta be kidding me! I remember telling a...

    You gotta be kidding me! I remember telling a coworker how shameful it is he finds himself regularly working with the Blue Screen interface when it is 2016... and he says 'But Alerton was first to...
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    Funny you should mention Tux... I am on a site...

    Funny you should mention Tux...
    I am on a site with a few TUX BCMs and TUX VAVs....
    Diagnosing comms there.
    My alerton time was short and always JACE Based, and often doing Distech. So I am...
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    Thanks for the clarification.

    Thanks for the clarification.
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    That is rather inconvenient...

    That is rather inconvenient...
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    Do they have a -ILC extension at the end of them?...

    Do they have a -ILC extension at the end of them? That would allow the functionality you are looking for with a Vykon Jace.
    Does that model number maybe show up when looking at the list of...
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    Alerton has always been all Bacnet. They never...

    Alerton has always been all Bacnet. They never had a proprietary protocol. So they will be all Bacnet. The FLG-MODBUS is a translator from Modbus to Bacnet.
    My experience has been that the Bacnet...
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    I saw one in someone's bag, it was out of use for...

    I saw one in someone's bag, it was out of use for a while when I was in JCI.
  22. Aw cumon! That was years ago! So annoying...

    Aw cumon! That was years ago! So annoying...
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    Sounds like the FINALLY got around to updating...

    Sounds like the FINALLY got around to updating the old Comm Bus Quick Tester that they had for N2... around 10-12 years ago for BacNet....

    821237
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    JCI Field Inspection Tool FIT

    Anybody use it? Like it? Opinions?

    This is relatively new apparently. I have a guy I met the other day who likes it. I have no experience with it and I have barely skimmed the manual. I want to...
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    Interesting. Light on useful details. Sounds a...

    Interesting. Light on useful details. Sounds a lot like Alper's project Sandstar. Prophetic maybe?
    Interesting how it promised to level the industry, did not find enough support, and ended up being...
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    Super awesome, thanks Digo. I will be chewing on...

    Super awesome, thanks Digo. I will be chewing on this for a while.
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    I remember a nifty thread on here about Baja......

    I remember a nifty thread on here about Baja... it is a subset of JAVA...? Basically Java, but with some changes... I do not know what those are.
    Any comment Digo?
  28. I heard about this but have not yet gotten bit by...

    I heard about this but have not yet gotten bit by it. Thanks for the good details, helpful.
  29. It should also be mentioned that Envision went to...

    It should also be mentioned that Envision went to version 3.5, I believe, and then migrated to Compass which is around rev 1.8 or thereabouts.... Basically, you may have issues with knowing how to...
  30. Thread: Not again

    by numbawunfela
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    I had classic shell and loved it. At some point,...

    I had classic shell and loved it. At some point, something IT put on the laptop and classic shell did not get along and killed the laptop. Of course, I had no idea what it was, so I kindly asked for...
  31. Thread: Not again

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    Win 7 is out of support, so it is past the end on...

    Win 7 is out of support, so it is past the end on that...
  32. Thread: Not again

    by numbawunfela
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    You been traumatized by windows 8 maybe? :D I...

    You been traumatized by windows 8 maybe? :D
    I sure was. There needs to be a line where everyone pissed off can punch someone on the team that made that ui change happen.
  33. Techservices, why are your posts always broken...

    Techservices, why are your posts always broken up? 2 lines, a space, 2 more lines.... it is odd...
    Thanks for the update!
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    I may need to wait a minute for a post edit...

    I may need to wait a minute for a post edit here.... you did what now via the school of hard knocks?
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    Go JACEless. Use BacnetIP controllers, local...

    Go JACEless. Use BacnetIP controllers, local native bacnet schedules, all controllers have a local graphic.
  36. To make sure we are on the same page here, a...

    To make sure we are on the same page here, a KitControl block on the worksheet is supervisory logic that only works as long as the JACE is there to execute that code. It cannot get put into any...
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    I love this 'not in the manual' type stuff. Super...

    I love this 'not in the manual' type stuff. Super helpful.
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    Exactly

    Exactly
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    What you describe here sounds like what I would...

    What you describe here sounds like what I would expect to see when a device's RS485 transceiver kicks the bucket. The Leibert guy is talking to the controller over the CAT5 port, and Leibert says 'I...
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    I had a J8 fail 2 weeks ago. It was corrupted and...

    I had a J8 fail 2 weeks ago. It was corrupted and offline, unreachable. It was a good chance to show the new guy how to serial shell, do a backup button reset and load a .dist file. So it came back....
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    You may have to 'recover an unreachable JACE'....

    You may have to 'recover an unreachable JACE'. Search for that on this forum and Niagara Central and you will get a lot of hits.
    The process is not short, and it is done when your JACE is...
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    Funny, that is exactly the same thing I do as...

    Funny, that is exactly the same thing I do as well! :D
    It should be in Modbus manuals.
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    I always wonder why it exists at all.... Plenty...

    I always wonder why it exists at all.... Plenty of super cool 70s technology is gone by the wayside. Modbus could too one would think.
    This is why LON will never die. [emoji846]
  44. Sticky: Whats this?

    Whats this?
  45. Sticky: I most often see this when there is an electrical...

    I most often see this when there is an electrical issue. For example, a guy was trying to get a bunch of ungrounded controllers with a 2 wire trunk to talk to a grounded AS-P, after letting the trunk...
  46. You can easily configure the JACE to route the...

    You can easily configure the JACE to route the Bacnet traffic from Johnson MSTP controllers... then hit the JACE with CCT to program controllers. Any brand of JACE will suffice.
    I have programmed...
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    Wow that makes a lot of sense... The fun part is...

    Wow that makes a lot of sense...
    The fun part is that as of now, neither the operators or technicians seem too happy. Maybe when it matures past the 'Beta testing in production' on customer sites...
  48. Good! How did you track that down? Divide and...

    Good!
    How did you track that down? Divide and conquer?
  49. Along as they are throwing Icrap apple computers...

    Along as they are throwing Icrap apple computers on the ground I am all over that. [emoji854][emoji6]
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    I remember being with an Alerton dealer that had...

    I remember being with an Alerton dealer that had to use Distech for things like Door Access control.
    The guys would giggle with glee at programming changes on the fly in a JACE. Not like...
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