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  1. It depends on the licensing authority.... I have...

    It depends on the licensing authority....
    I have a Journeymans license. The municipality that issued it only required verifiable experience in the mechanical trade. It is up to them to accept what...
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    I engineer jobs I work on all the time. It...

    I engineer jobs I work on all the time. It basically means taking the job from proposal to prints. The installers go prints to install. The programmer goes install to functioning system. There is, of...
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    You want an email in answer to that question? Or...

    You want an email in answer to that question? Or something else? I am sorry, I did not follow....
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    I think we can agree on that. You will notice I...

    I think we can agree on that. You will notice I mentioned a phone interview, and Milwaukee. I never said it was a senior leadership person doing the phone interview.
    Which makes it all the more...
  5. Found it. This is my post, but I cannot take...

    Found it. This is my post, but I cannot take credit, I just followed another Htalkers instructions. Hats off to Steve Wright. He posted:

    I just followed his lead and posted what was there...
    ...
  6. It seems like a lower static pressure would not...

    It seems like a lower static pressure would not really affect the noise issues. Am I missing something? Going from 30psi into the valve and 28psi out does not seem any less noisy than 5 psi in and...
  7. Oh, that explains this: That is not a usual...

    Oh, that explains this:
    That is not a usual transition in the JCI branches I hear from. I do know of some that have done it. They always quit the Union, and got rehired as an entry level controls...
  8. Woah woah - no ARP posts in here! ...

    Woah woah - no ARP posts in here! :censored::grin2:

    I actually have no idea what it means. I think the P is for Pegasus. It is Johnson's 3rd party product line - Johnson sells FEC controllers...
  9. I do recips and scroll chillers, not...

    I do recips and scroll chillers, not centrifugals. Up to about 400 tons. If you are a centrifugal chiller guy, you should compare the 2 lines of work, you would have a unique viewpoint!
  10. I missed the first part. I picked controls...

    I missed the first part. I picked controls because I had 1 job with a JCI PCT running a mechanical room and I had to wait for the nerd with a laptop to get anything done...
    I realized that his time...
  11. Both chiller guys and controls guys make over...

    Both chiller guys and controls guys make over scale. A good reference point is union wages, like KP pointed out. A good HVAC tech can demand a few dollars over scale, maybe 2 or 3.
    A controls guy...
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    Unusual to interview without a phone interview...

    Unusual to interview without a phone interview first. Since the JCI company philosophy is that the boots on the ground are fundamentally incompetent and not to be trusted, they usually hold a phone...
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    Neeto. Is it a phone interview or a real one?

    Neeto. Is it a phone interview or a real one?
  14. I did it this morning, just as Hvac69 posted....

    I did it this morning, just as Hvac69 posted. Worked great.
    If you forget to select IsWritable TRUE, it will still work for the writable points, but will crap out on the non writable ones.
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    Got a frog in your pocket? [emoji4]

    Got a frog in your pocket? [emoji4]
  16. Good to refresh the browser before posting.......

    Good to refresh the browser before posting.... someone might have posted the answer already! glad someone helpd you out.
  17. You can search for the points in program...

    You can search for the points in program services, then set slot flags from there.
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    I did HVAC for 10 years, then Controls for 4...

    I did HVAC for 10 years, then Controls for 4 before I got into a Union. Now I am journeyman fitter, although I NEVER touch gauges, or piping anything. I do laptop work mainly.
    I was a Mechanic,...
  19. So the circuit setters are set for what they...

    So the circuit setters are set for what they think the system will be when it is done. Not what it actually is now? That would be enough for me to tell the customer that they got what they got until...
  20. I could be missing something, but it really seems...

    I could be missing something, but it really seems like if these were sized and set right, there could not be a HUGE amount of flow being forced through the control valves making them noisy.
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    I remember there being posts on how to make this...

    I remember there being posts on how to make this less painful, you may want to search for those on the forum here.
    Really incredible that it has been an issue since at least AX3.7 or 3.8
  22. Looks good, you may have to play with it a little...

    Looks good, you may have to play with it a little to get it to work in the wild properly with other code around it. But you have the idea.
    The code ALWAYS writes Null to 16 until you want it to...
  23. I have never heard anybody say that.... Hehe

    I have never heard anybody say that....
    Hehe
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    Amen to that. I get into R2 stuff with an WinXP...

    Amen to that.
    I get into R2 stuff with an WinXP VM or an old workbench.
    And it is so I can know enough about it to rip it out. You are much better off trying to get into a new N4 system with your...
  25. Are the new valves characterized ball valves?...

    Are the new valves characterized ball valves?
    The problem might be that your system pressure is too low, and you are cavitating at the ball valves on the upper floors. There is not enough...
  26. Engineers have their butt on the line, so they...

    Engineers have their butt on the line, so they tend to stick to what they know.
    Thanks for the feedback on how it works for you. VERY nice
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    Trane is non union all the way around as far as I...

    Trane is non union all the way around as far as I know. JCI has a few shops that are union controls. I am at an independent shop that does delta, Niagara, Distech, and Schneider. They are part of a...
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    I couldnt either. Until I was in controls......

    I couldnt either. Until I was in controls... oddly enough.
    Just saying you have a lot to gain, and time is shorter than you might think due to internal stuff at the target companies.
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    You are doing 3rd party HVAC work? Oh TB, you are...

    You are doing 3rd party HVAC work? Oh TB, you are breaking my heart! So thankless! No time, constant approvals, 30 min or paperwork for 20 min of work, all rooftops on stripmalls... 'Are you SURE it...
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    Path #1

    Path #1
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    Sounds like Training variation #2. :grin2:

    Sounds like Training variation #2. :grin2:
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    As someone who works with computers and knows at...

    As someone who works with computers and knows at least a little of the ugly side of things I can tell you that that it works this way:
    WinXP comes out, someone has a pre-release beta version, shares...
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    There are variations - but here are the 2 paths...

    There are variations - but here are the 2 paths to controls programmer guru that I hear about most.
    1) you start with a controls company as a wire puller. You pull wire, install controllers,...
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    This is worth a whole thread. I use Virtual...

    This is worth a whole thread.
    I use Virtual Machines running winXP, Win7x32, Win7x64, and Win10x32, and Win10x64. Why so many? I deal with Johnson, schneider, JCI, distech, Delta, KMC, and pinch...
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    It has been traditionally true that the newer...

    It has been traditionally true that the newer stuff will not talk to older software at JCI. So your controller programmed with 13 wont talk to the older program.
    It used to be that PCT and CCT...
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    I don't know that I would read it this way. This...

    I don't know that I would read it this way. This really should be viewed as an investment that has a return over time. Also, I have no way of knowing what you make or how the market is in your area....
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    Nope. There are a number of reasons for this. One...

    Nope. There are a number of reasons for this. One reason is that the Niagara class takes you from useless to dangerous. It is BY NO MEANS a ticket to competency. The software is too deep to get it...
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    All you need to do is change the file extension....

    All you need to do is change the file extension. Instead of manual.zip, rename it manual.dmb. Because it is DuMB that you can bypass email security so easy. Just let the recipient know they gotta...
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    A fun anecdote that helps flesh out the N2...

    A fun anecdote that helps flesh out the N2 discontinuation thing.
    I was a NEW JCI guy, and they had rolled out a forum, similar to Niagara Central. As I trolled around there, I got my hands on the...
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    I LUV that. Good for you Sam! I had no Idea.

    I LUV that. Good for you Sam! I had no Idea.
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    I think we agree on the first point, it was my...

    I think we agree on the first point, it was my point too. Although as directly stated.
    As for the second I do not think I thought of that either.
    Of course, I think that JCI is the only one who...
  42. I will, thanks!

    I will, thanks!
  43. The ECM in the article I wrote is employing the...

    The ECM in the article I wrote is employing the type of control seen in like 98% of residential equipment. It has a fixed cfm stpt that it wants to meet (say 2000cfm). When the vav closes down, it...
  44. As someone who has characterized them for an OEM,...

    As someone who has characterized them for an OEM, and balanced then as an air balancer, and controlled them as an I integrator, I would tend to disagree. The model I worked with was a gen back from...
  45. Thanks for letting me know what kind of skid this...

    Thanks for letting me know what kind of skid this is. The way this is done is VERY similar to how ECM motors can deliver a very precise air flow with nothing on them but a VFD and a tachometer. Once...
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    Who's that?

    Who's that?
  47. What kind of pump is this? Is it some kind of...

    What kind of pump is this? Is it some kind of special integrated package? Something like an Armstrong pump skid?
  48. Typical. :-)

    Typical. :-)
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    Oh! That is where I went wrong! Doh! Hehe

    Oh! That is where I went wrong! Doh! Hehe
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    Honestly I cannot blame JCI for that. The old...

    Honestly I cannot blame JCI for that. The old stuff just ran, and it is easy for a customer to feel scared to move away from what you ready know. They can still get at the stuff with a laptop and...
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