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    You quoted me then stated that you know that I...

    You quoted me then stated that you know that I ..... to me that is referring to me not a generalization.
    Iím not the only that is hard to communicate with.
    Peace out
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    What I hate the fact that youíre non union? Weird...

    What I hate the fact that youíre non union? Weird that you know that.
    Iím sorry man but you know nothing about me and to assume you do is asinine.
    As someone who spent 25 plus years nonunion...
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    Yes Delta T mentioned it in his post. Look it up...

    Yes Delta T mentioned it in his post. Look it up and watch it very interesting. Most of it can be any large city but some is seattle ultra liberal mess.
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    What do you mean by free enterprise? You know...

    What do you mean by free enterprise?
    You know there is nothing a ďfree enterpriseĒ shop can do that a union shop canít right? Well except take advantage of their employees
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    Nah my dues are only $32 a month. So that wasnít...

    Nah my dues are only $32 a month. So that wasnít it


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    Again as I stated earlier in this thread here I...

    Again as I stated earlier in this thread here I have no state or local sales tax. What I do know is I made more of my income towards tax then ever before. Iím really not sure why it is hard to...
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    you are missing the point. Yes the tax rate has...

    you are missing the point. Yes the tax rate has decreased Iím pretty sure nobody said it hasnít but not nearly as much is deductible anymore so effectively you are paying more in taxes.
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    The mortgage deduction, tools, work clothes,...

    The mortgage deduction, tools, work clothes, laundering work clothes, working dues,work boots, sales tax and others that I don’t know about I don’t do my taxes my sister does she is a CPA.
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    Washington no local or state income tax

    Washington no local or state income tax
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    Yes the tax rate went down. The amount you can...

    Yes the tax rate went down. The amount you can deduct has went down tremendously.
    What I know is the amount difference deducted weekly from my check was really unnoticeable, at best $50 a month(I...
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    Last raise I was one of 6 guys that showed up to...

    Last raise I was one of 6 guys that showed up to the meeting to vote on it
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    MES= mechanical equipment serviceman BTJ=...

    MES= mechanical equipment serviceman
    BTJ= building trades journeyman
    Just classifications
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    I believe we have somewhere around 50% of the...

    I believe we have somewhere around 50% of the market and it is growing
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    To answer your actual question if you want to...

    To answer your actual question if you want to continue doing the same stuff you are doing now you can expect in the $30-$40 range. If you want to move up to commercial /industrial and join the union...
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    Wait isn’t Portland way more liberal than Seattle

    Wait isn’t Portland way more liberal than Seattle
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    At local 32 there is 3 levels of MES 1=55% of...

    At local 32 there is 3 levels of MES 1=55% of BTJ, 2=65% of BTJ and 3=80% of BTJ. A level 3 is about $43 an hr. You can always be paid over scale too.
  17. Ok but still what was the point of posting it?

    Ok but still what was the point of posting it?
  18. We had one journeyman and 2 MES out of the north...

    We had one journeyman and 2 MES out of the north 26 the journeyman just left us for some other 26 shop in Bellingham. He had been a 26 journeyman for about 10 years.
    Yes all are 26 MES make over...
  19. What is your point in posting a old contract for...

    What is your point in posting a old contract for the local 26 tradesmen and MES?
  20. You also have BTJ there too, my company has a few...

    You also have BTJ there too, my company has a few 26 journeyman. In 32 we hav MES also that’s how I came in.
  21. So this applied journeyman is something that your...

    So this applied journeyman is something that your local has nothing that we have here. So yes then I’m talking about a “true” journeyman.
  22. Is this out of your locals bylaws? I have never...

    Is this out of your locals bylaws?
    I have never heard of applied journeyman. We are all BTJ here. Well whatever a good chiller guy will get 65-75 dollars an hour here whatever term you want to use.
  23. Local 32 seattle almost every shop pays over...

    Local 32 seattle almost every shop pays over scale here especially for chiller guys
  24. LOOKING FOR HVAC Technicians in the SEATTLE Area

    For a good chiller guy you could get $5-$15 over scale so $65-$75 an hour plus a $20 an hour benefit package.
    (We need a good chiller guy)


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  25. This is what is being talked about. I have seen...

    This is what is being talked about. I have seen this ad and many others always the same companies advertising in Craigslist here. They are offering $30 to $40 an hour with medium benefits probably...
  26. Ooh temping

    Ooh temping
  27. Itís $60+ an hr plus benefits here in seattle....

    Itís $60+ an hr plus benefits here in seattle. The OP is probably topping out at $40 but then again you get to drive a van home lol
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    Which guys are lazy? Is Trane lazy to come Zan...

    Which guys are lazy? Is Trane lazy to come Zan and fixes your trailers? How about UMC are they lazy? Donít confuse well planned out and operating safely as lazy. Itís really weird to hear a...
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    What are you even talking about? Are you talking...

    What are you even talking about? Are you talking about the new 99 tunnel to as an even opened yet? What do unions have to do with that decides itís union contractors doing work?
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    If you are good you will work. Iím not saying Iím...

    If you are good you will work. Iím not saying Iím good Iím pretty average but I have never had less than 35 hours in a week unless I choose to. In service there really is not lay offs. ...
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    Man I understand you had a bad experience in Reno...

    Man I understand you had a bad experience in Reno but donít base the whole UA off of that.
    No one guy is going to have all the knowledge needed for this industry and to pretend that since the union...
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    I understand what youíre saying but why should...

    I understand what youíre saying but why should everyone go through Mitsubishi VRF school? Why should everyone go through Trane centrifugal school? Should we also be sent to daikon school? Does...
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    Correct we donít force employers to send...

    Correct we donít force employers to send employees to brand schools. Companies generally always pay for that as it is their benefit to send the employee to school whether itís Mitsubishi VRF school...
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    I do not know what they have for VRF at the hall...

    I do not know what they have for VRF at the hall for training. I know we have 6 or 7 guys that my company has sent to the Mitsubishi school.
    DDC is training that is genetic no sense training...
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    Yes both Trane and UMC are in our local.

    Yes both Trane and UMC are in our local.
  36. Correct it is public information as it is used...

    Correct it is public information as it is used for prevailing wages
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    We probably do your work. What school district?

    We probably do your work. What school district?
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    Yes oil training at UTI consisted of this - The...

    Yes oil training at UTI consisted of this - The instructor pointed at 2!oil furnaces in the corner and says you guys from the north west might want to take a look at these because you might run into...
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    VRF, centrifugal chillers, and DDC are all...

    VRF, centrifugal chillers, and DDC are all courses that are part of our apprentice classes also available in the evenings two journeyman. But most centrifcal guys Will also go to the Trane...
  40. The going rate here for a Razzie guy thatís not...

    The going rate here for a Razzie guy thatís not commission sales that is good is 40 plus an hour. Comercial I would say about $45-$50 an hour non-union, union scale is $55 an hr on the check.
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    Take a trip down to Local 32 to it says youíre in...

    Take a trip down to Local 32 to it says youíre in SeaTac Local 32 to his office is in Renton itís a five minute drive I think youíd be quite impressed if you took a little bit of a tour and yes...
  42. Thatís probably why you get paid over $50 an hour...

    Thatís probably why you get paid over $50 an hour here in seattle. Itís a great place to work keep shoving that money in the bank and then your retirement and move like Iím planning on doing when I...
  43. I do not know I am not from that area. Iím in...

    I do not know I am not from that area. Iím in Seattle and we have very competitive pricing with all the non-organized shops weíre just better taken care of not the owners
  44. Iím sure you can. Remember you donít have to pay...

    Iím sure you can. Remember you donít have to pay anything for your health care or put anything into your retirement. Seattle is expensive and we are under that for wages and I do ok with being the...
  45. I believe journeyman scale in San Francisco is...

    I believe journeyman scale in San Francisco is something like $60ish and hr.
  46. Welcome

    Welcome
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    I love them they work great for jumpering cards....

    I love them they work great for jumpering cards. Just keep buying them to jobs and soon enough you will have a packs worth
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    Your filter is probably fine, You should be able...

    Your filter is probably fine, You should be able to get a year out of it but let the service tech assess that. A "tune up" probably won't solve anything but at least that gets someone there to...
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    Living in Florida I would think your dog would...

    Living in Florida I would think your dog would die of heat stroke after a few hours of sitting in your locked van
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    We have a large fleet. All the vans have alarms,...

    We have a large fleet. All the vans have alarms, GPS and since the slick locks have been installed there has been no successful cargo area break ins. Before it was at least a few a month.
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