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  1. Thanks. How do you perceive this? I think he...

    Thanks. How do you perceive this? I think he could have (as always) worded it more 'presidentially' and kept his personal issues out of it, but that's Trump. And, as is often the case, he's not...
  2. True, but that begins to cross the line into the...

    True, but that begins to cross the line into the realm of Moral Relativism. No matter where you stand on that issue, this issue (amongst others) requires a standard of conduct, as does much in the...
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    Exactly. Another good analogy...the frog in...

    Exactly. Another good analogy...the frog in boiling water analogy (weather it's scientifically accurate or not, IDK, but it does make the point).
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    Well spoken. It's hard to describe in terms that...

    Well spoken. It's hard to describe in terms that don't seem 'paranoid'. Trying to describe it in today's political and moral climate is a difficult endeavor. You've managed to accomplish it in a way...
  5. What was the tweet?

    What was the tweet?
  6. Opinions & ideas should fall in the realm of free...

    Opinions & ideas should fall in the realm of free speech unless they violate normal expectations of language or are somehow vulgar, etc. I guess that remains to be seen.

    IMO, this isn't about...
  7. They can do what they like as a private...

    They can do what they like as a private enterprise. The only thing in debate here is whether they will continue to enjoy gov't protection against liability. If they want to remain under that...
  8. The protections were given to promote free...

    The protections were given to promote free speech...anyone can voice their opinion (providing it doesn't violate decency or the rights/safety of others). SM no longer abides by the neutral standard....
  9. The determination of 'misinformation' is...

    The determination of 'misinformation' is subjective in this case, I think. But to answer the question I think you're asking, Twitter et all can't stand under that umbrella, since they are a Social...
  10. Do you really understand the issue? Social Media...

    Do you really understand the issue? Social Media receives protection from liability for anything published on their platform, providing they remain a neutral platform. Television and radio have...
  11. Are you asking if political opinion they disagree...

    Are you asking if political opinion they disagree with (or even not factual) should be censored?
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    Self inflicted wounds that they (and the...

    Self inflicted wounds that they (and the innocent) will pay for for years to come.
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    An excellent point. :cheers:

    An excellent point.

    :cheers:
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    From what I've seen in news clips, there is no...

    From what I've seen in news clips, there is no law enforcement present at the scene...no arrests of rioters and looters. Is this accurate?
  15. Well said, and in much fewer words than I...

    Well said, and in much fewer words than I managed. ;)
  16. The issues you refer to are Decency issues, not...

    The issues you refer to are Decency issues, not censorship. They'll probably just enforce the rules they likely already have on the books. In example, the Social Media big boys all lean very hard to...
  17. It's a fine line to walk. But the legislation...

    It's a fine line to walk. But the legislation that allowed Social Media the Govt protection they currently enjoy was put in place under the premise that the Social Media platforms were platforms and...
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    I expected contextual response! Crikey!

    I expected contextual response! Crikey!
  19. Twitter is, like the rest of Social Media,...

    Twitter is, like the rest of Social Media, politically active (as in activism). No guesses as to which side of the political fence they fall on. Should they really take political positions and retain...
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    So where is the political agenda? There isn't...

    So where is the political agenda? There isn't one. The only political element involved is that BT, like most corporations, employs lobbyists and PR companies to keep the cash flowing, which means...
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    Yes. I can see that you're baffled. You just...

    Yes. I can see that you're baffled. You just can't imagine that the world has people/entities that will take advantage, plan, do bad things, and yes, have Agendas that affect the masses. It's all a...
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    I'm in and out of my office today and on the...

    I'm in and out of my office today and on the run...thus the 'choppy & quick' posts.

    The reality is that the Liberal Agenda isn't something that can be explained, particularly not to you guys on...
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    Lol...

    Lol...
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    Edited for corrosiveness: How can one understand...

    Edited for corrosiveness: How can one understand what one can't/refuses to see? You seem to have no inkling of the concept. Why waste time? Have you bothered to do any homework on the matter?
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    I can see how you might have missed it. But...

    I can see how you might have missed it. But really, all you had to do was ask.
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    You're confused again. My statement was that the...

    You're confused again. My statement was that the number of injury/death predicted/alleged in GA's "Gates" article was twice that of the number of worldwide CV deaths to date. What, you need a link...
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    This is ARP (American Religion Politics). Still...

    This is ARP (American Religion Politics). Still part of HVAC-TALK. Welcome. This forum is to keep the technical forums free of such postings.

    Here's the index:
    ...
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    Understood. It may take me a day or two to...

    Understood. It may take me a day or two to respond to this. Things are hopping here.
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    And, perhaps primarily, that Trump endorses it....

    And, perhaps primarily, that Trump endorses it. That in itself is enough to turn the whole of Liberal wonderland against it.
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    The link isn't an article.

    The link isn't an article.
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    Truth. And the reality is that if Trump decided...

    Truth. And the reality is that if Trump decided to stray from the path (which is what Conservatives follow...the path, not the man), he would lose his base in a heartbeat.
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    I'm not aware of that. Too bad you went no...

    I'm not aware of that. Too bad you went no further than the assertion. I guess, until you do, that dog will most certainly hunt.
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    I don't disagree, but there are some differences....

    I don't disagree, but there are some differences. IMO, the Left's hatred for Trump is based on shallow stuff....their dislike of the man. They lead with their emotions. I can honestly say that where...
  34. Unfortunately, yes. I guess everything in life is...

    Unfortunately, yes. I guess everything in life is a trade-off.
  35. No it doesn't. Here's a spec sheet: 816160

    No it doesn't. Here's a spec sheet:

    816160
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    You're comparing the draft to Govt surveillance...

    You're comparing the draft to Govt surveillance of American citizens? Gates vaccine isn't going to track anyone, and even if it were, it wouldn't be gates or a private enterprise doing the tracking....
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    Assuming Trump's HCQ endorsement fits in...

    Assuming Trump's HCQ endorsement fits in here...another perspective is that if it were anyone but Trump, Liberals would probably be snorting HCQ right now or in the corner shooting it up. If Trump...
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    https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffsb&q=when+did+the+US+d...

    https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffsb&q=when+did+the+US+draft+end%3F&atb=v49-1&ia=web
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    Well, I did find this video of Trump in his...

    Well, I did find this video of Trump in his younger days.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVY1-v97Mic&list=PLLpOaT9KEL7hs9meeSha3nBUGuXY9jOlP
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    Perhaps in today's world, but look how fast...

    Perhaps in today's world, but look how fast things are changing. Could you picture that kind of Gov't interference/control in a dictatorship or communist society? Of course. And look how much America...
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    Only half that number died "from CV".

    Only half that number died "from CV".
  42. I think the 'solution' is that we need more than...

    I think the 'solution' is that we need more than one meter. I have 3 on my truck, including the '550.
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    Your assessment is ruled and hindered by emotion,...

    Your assessment is ruled and hindered by emotion, Gary.
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    Err on the side of fraud prevention. As to CV,...

    Err on the side of fraud prevention. As to CV, again, we manage to get to the grocery and other functions. What makes it so difficult to arrange safe voting (in person, not mail). A one time thing?...
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    So the stupid part is the tech they think might...

    So the stupid part is the tech they think might be employed? Yeah, phones are the obvious method (and are being used for those purposes on various levels), but phones can be discarded and hacked.
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    When it comes to the sanctity of our presidential...

    When it comes to the sanctity of our presidential elections? Err on the side of caution.
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    It's alright. We'll figure it all out after Trump...

    It's alright. We'll figure it all out after Trump wins 2020.
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    Firefox with add ons, of which noscript is the...

    Firefox with add ons, of which noscript is the most useful.
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    That's gouging, and while Capitalism makes it...

    That's gouging, and while Capitalism makes it possible, that doesn't mean it's acceptable or shouldn't be addressed.
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    Yeah, that's that same example that always gets...

    Yeah, that's that same example that always gets paraded out when Mail-in voter fraud is mentioned.

    Whether it's happening now or not is irrelevant. It's the potential of what could happen and...
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