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    Thanks for all the help. I did get my Xport...

    Thanks for all the help.
    I did get my Xport operating as an AEM.

    1) 8N1 for parity. No flow control.

    2) For the MMI-Modem config.
    Modem enable? N
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    Also, in Insight as soon as I check the...

    Also, in Insight as soon as I check the "Configure for remote Dial-up" option in the Local net configuration utility then my trunk 0 BLN stops connecting.

    I tried to un-check the option again but...
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    Insight with remote BLN

    I have Insight 3.8 with several RS485 and Ethernet panels for testing my product.
    I need to test the configuration with an AEM however I do not have access to an AEM so I am trying to use my XPort...
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    Thank you Raymond

    Thank you Raymond
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    That was my first idea but came up empty.

    That was my first idea but came up empty.
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    Siemens TEC application notes

    I have a client using TEC application 2413
    Can anyone point me to the application notes ?
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    I got hold of the C:\Insight\Database folder...

    I got hold of the C:\Insight\Database
    folder from a client site.

    Yes the xxx.safe.db files are here but they are NOT in .P2 format. :-(
    Unless there is a batch export to .P2 application out...
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    PS: I have got the backup working on 22 database...

    PS: I have got the backup working on 22 database types so far.
    There are 7 (possibly more) that I have not yet figured out.
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    Wow, thanks for the info. With regards your...

    Wow, thanks for the info.

    With regards your comment
    "You have to be much more specific on what you are trying to do."

    My product BACnetP2 sits on the apogee P2 network and provides a...
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    Still looking?

    Still looking?
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    Ok, not exactly sure myself. In the old days...

    Ok, not exactly sure myself.
    In the old days panels were backed up using a simple tool called datamate.
    Datamate connected via the MMI (HMI) serial port on one of the panels and could backup /...
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    Apogee panel backup P2 files

    I am looking for some test data please.

    I can easily restore the P2 files to my test panels however to test my backup code I need P2 files with all the panel features.
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    Apogee P1 gateway implimentation

    I am wanting to check that my BACnetP2 does indeed work out significantly cheaper that the Apogee P1 gateway solution.

    For my test case I have the following:
    1 Insight server
    60 Panels (MBC /...
  14. I did enjoy the presentation, thank you. This...

    I did enjoy the presentation, thank you.

    This looks like a definite 4th option.
    Seems to be "one-way" integration from Apogee to Computrols ???
    Also says native P2 on slide but examples only...
  15. Migrating Apogee Insight to 3rd party vendor

    I am looking at the options available when migrating an Apogee Insight site to a 3rd party (away from Siemens).


    P1 gateway
    From this discussion...
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    Another question: I assume that the AEM does...

    Another question:

    I assume that the AEM does not expose the apogee points as read / write BACnet objects. correct?
    Does Desigo CC expose them?
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    Sorry typo in link. :oops:...

    Sorry typo in link. :oops:
    https://www.purpleswift.com
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    Please contact me if you would like an...

    Please contact me if you would like an alternative solution to the Desigo CC upgrade.
    https:/purpleswift.com/
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    Thank you NickDeal. I have a few more...

    Thank you NickDeal.

    I have a few more questions, perhaps you would be so kind as to answer them in this thread (keeps info in one place).

    1) Is it necessary to upgrade all panels? Is having...
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    Desigo CC p2 driver compatible panels

    I have been informed that the Apogee P2 driver for Desigo CC only supports PXC and MEC panels.
    None of the older panels such as FLNC and MBC panels are supported.

    Is this true?
  21. I have had a look at the Mirius link you posted....

    I have had a look at the Mirius link you posted.
    Very impressive.

    Also explains why my own (now legacy product) https://www.purpleswift.com/DBACnet.html never made many sales in the USA.
    My...
  22. Brilliant answer. You actually answered 3...

    Brilliant answer.
    You actually answered 3 questions in one.
    1) No, there is no market as free version built into Insight 3.12
    2) You may very well have saved the client lots of expense as this...
  23. Market for 3rd party apogee bacnet client

    Today I received a call from a Siemens agent asking if my BACnetP2 gateway could be used to provide a BACnet client functionality for a clients apogee installation.

    It seems that Siemens is...
  24. >> Could you run a Linux VM on the controls...

    >> Could you run a Linux VM on the controls server?
    Yes works well.

    >> Raspberry pi?
    Can be made to work but not recommended as special compiles required.
    Prefer just single OS compile for...
  25. Thank you for your interest. The NUC seems a...

    Thank you for your interest.

    The NUC seems a good choice, specs are on my website.

    >> Have you thought about a turn key solution?
    I assume you are suggesting a pre-installed NUC offering. ...
  26. I would have expected the expansion block AI to...

    I would have expected the expansion block AI to have been defined as system points with the data conversion built in.
    So the auto discovery would have been straightforward.

    In the event that...
  27. I have had many requests for more information on...

    I have had many requests for more information on this project so here is an update.
    I have completed the BACnet /IP to Siemens Apogee P2 gateway.
    I have extended the original RS485 link mode to...
  28. Siemens TEC application 2281 - HEAT.COOL (5) not commanding

    I have a Distech system monitoring a Siemens TEC via a BACnet gateway.

    The issue is that the TEC application 2281 needs to be manually commanded to "heating only" or "cooling only" mode using...
  29. I expect it to be available by end May 2015.

    I expect it to be available by end May 2015.
  30. derek_web at purpleswift dot com

    derek_web at purpleswift dot com
  31. Hi Anno, I hope to be able to sell the gateway...

    Hi Anno,

    I hope to be able to sell the gateway directly, we will have to wait and see.

    My driver feeds the data to the gateway API.
    You only get to see the std BACnet device(s) and read /...
  32. Hi anno, I have partnered with a controls...

    Hi anno,

    I have partnered with a controls manufacturer for this development.
    The P2 driver is written and plugged into the BACnet gateway API.
    Currently we are sorting out the legal agreements...
  33. My first step was to write a Siemens P2 protocol...

    My first step was to write a Siemens P2 protocol emulator (PC win32 software). This is now complete.
    I am looking for a alpha site where I can field test my product.
    Anyone interested?
  34. The BACnet route will serve Tridium and others so...

    The BACnet route will serve Tridium and others so this seems to be the best starting point.
    I am open to offers. :)
  35. I have been looking for a partner to market the...

    I have been looking for a partner to market the product. I contacted several of the big names but could raise no interest. Someone has recently contacted me and we are in the midst of...
  36. Hi Chailatte, Send me an email. controls @...

    Hi Chailatte,

    Send me an email. controls @ purpleswift dot com
  37. The Infocon/Maxline driver list has the following...

    The Infocon/Maxline driver list has the following entry:
    Siemens Apogee 600 TEC UC Driver for Jace X - Siemens Apogee 600 TEC UC Driver. Connects directly to RS485 FLN devices.

    The FLN is the P1...
  38. Thanks Jeremy, The price will depend greatly...

    Thanks Jeremy,

    The price will depend greatly on the extent of the market for this product.
    Any idea as to how many?

    Derek
  39. Extent of market for s600 / apogee native P2 driver

    The Siemens S600 / Apogee P2 protocol is used for communications between Apogee modular controllers and the Insight Graphics software.
    There seems to be some interest in a driver that can talk P2...
  40. I would like to start a new thread. This...

    I would like to start a new thread.
    This discussion is no longer about apogee MMI software.
  41. Good news. I have decoded sufficient of...

    Good news.

    I have decoded sufficient of the P2 protocol to be able to add my own "controller" to the P2 network.
    See the attached screen shot.

    My field panel is 10
    Note the "Firmware...
  42. Wow, after 4 months sudden interest in P2...

    Wow, after 4 months sudden interest in P2 protocol. :grin2:

    I have developed many software products over the years and while my coding / technical skills are good I am always let down by being...
  43. :grin2: Yes I have cracked the HASH key. I can...

    :grin2: Yes I have cracked the HASH key. I can restore a panel from a datamate .P2 file.
  44. Thanks again Jeremy. PS: you mentioned not...

    Thanks again Jeremy.

    PS: you mentioned not being able to reload panel from MMI.. Reloading via MMI (or even better telnet) is possible, My mini BMS does backup and restore.
  45. Hi Jeremy, Thank you for your reply. I have...

    Hi Jeremy,

    Thank you for your reply.
    I have "cracked" the P1 protocol. I have a product DBACnet that provides a BACnet /ip interface to the P1 network devices.
    The downside of switching to...
  46. Extent of market for s600 / apogee mmi graphics software

    About 18 years ago I was involved in developing a windows BMS system for the s600 controls connecting via the mmi port.
    I have recently begun a re-write of the system modernizing it with a...
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    Thanks kontrolphreak

    Thanks kontrolphreak
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    An interesting product line, thanks amigo.

    An interesting product line, thanks amigo.
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    Integration fieldservers

    Has anyone compiled a matrix of the available fieldserver / protocols?

    Say that I want to open a metasys or siemens P1 onto bacnet. I have spent a few hours searching and have come up with the...
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    Thank you LostOne, I will look at the Apogee...

    Thank you LostOne,

    I will look at the Apogee PXC devices.
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