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  1. Thread: Niagara Summit

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    https://hvac-talk.com/vbb/threads/2264253-Niagara-...

    https://hvac-talk.com/vbb/threads/2264253-Niagara-summit-in-April/page2

    So far it looks like myself and @numbawunfela for sure and @Right Control was a high chance of a maybe.
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    Now you're showing your age. Reminds me of the...

    Now you're showing your age. Reminds me of the distributed.net RC-5-56 challenge... from 1997? Took 250 days to find that 56-bit key.
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    https://docs.niagara-community.com/bundle/ModuleSi...

    https://docs.niagara-community.com/bundle/ModuleSigning/page/UsingJarSignerTool-29018E23.html
  4. @numbawunfela has the scoop VMware Workstation...

    @numbawunfela has the scoop
    VMware Workstation is the most popular (licensed option)
    VirtualBox should be just as capable.
    All that's going on is running the ancient app in a supported OS like...
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    I've heard nothing but good things about Phoenix...

    I've heard nothing but good things about Phoenix Contact. More recently, about their Niagara 4 controller (ILC 2050BI).
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    How about 8 T-1L ports?...

    How about 8 T-1L ports?
    https://www.phoenixcontact.com/en-us/managed-spe-switches
  7. It's been a while since I've had to deal with...

    It's been a while since I've had to deal with spudders - the list of stupid things are long... I do recall this specific issue was described in a Honeywell TAC tip publication
    Alas, I no longer...
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    Looking at these pdfs from Honeywell, they put...

    Looking at these pdfs from Honeywell, they put two T1L ports on those optimizer controllers - so although they call it a T1-L daisy chain, it's technically point to point.
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    Kodaro (formerly CSI3) has a driver for DNP3,...

    Kodaro (formerly CSI3) has a driver for DNP3, I've never ran into any DNP3 stuff.

    https://controlcosupport.com/index.php/software-downloads/12-csi3-downloads
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    https://docs.niagara-community.com/bundle/docUser/...

    https://docs.niagara-community.com/bundle/docUser/page/aCompositeIssues.html

    Compositing creates permanent point subscriptions, which adds those points to the polling bucket.

    As long as your...
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    I've posted that string here about a dozen times,...

    I've posted that string here about a dozen times, but it's not like anyone is paying attention to Lon.
    I know of at least 1 senior engineer who's been there since 1997.
    Echelon (1988) => Adesto...
  12. Thread: Weather Station

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    Vaisala WXT534 (pressure/temp/RH) starts around...

    Vaisala WXT534 (pressure/temp/RH) starts around $500 over your budget, but can't do BACnet.
    WXT530 series can do Modbus RTU over RS-485...
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    https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/EnOcean/75010...

    https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/EnOcean/75010R?qs=8Wlm6%252BaMh8S12d8mK6XZQg%3D%3D
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    Is the station you have for sure already migrated...

    Is the station you have for sure already migrated to N4?
    AX modules cannot be added into N4.
    You could extract the xml from the config.bog (it's really just a zip) and edit it offline, just have be...
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    it doesn't exist in N4. All uses of module...

    it doesn't exist in N4. All uses of module timesync should have been removed from the station during migration.
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    Follow user James - Tridium Product Support...

    Follow user James - Tridium Product Support
    He's posted various examples at Niagara-Community over the years.
    The files section under his profile has a ton of program objects as well.
  17. After a decade of doing mostly LON job, one of...

    After a decade of doing mostly LON job, one of the first all BACnet jobs I encountered had a sea of York units with the Simplicity gateways on every damn RTU. Worst piece of shit I've ever seen.
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    you've got mail

    you've got mail
  19. I did a survey of a bldg in downtown LA just...

    I did a survey of a bldg in downtown LA just before COVID. Win98 on a Dell Optiplex GX1: Pentium II with 128MB of RAM and a 2GB HDD.
    XBSi front end with Graphic Central, lots of ancient stuff just...
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    True, JACE-8000 will stop at 4.15 when it comes...

    True, JACE-8000 will stop at 4.15 when it comes out in October/November 2024.
    4.15 being a LTS build, it will be supported until July 2028.
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    I recall from the T-talk that one core is...

    I recall from the T-talk that one core is dedicated to the daemon, and two are dedicated to the station.

    Comparing the ARM Cortex-A53 to the old ARM Cortex-A8 single core in the JACE-8000...
  22. Yes, but you gotta pay that support pack. ...

    Yes, but you gotta pay that support pack. Basically that licenses the Distech software to run on a non EC-BOS JACE.

    Nothing stops you from configuring everything from EC-GfxProgram and then...
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    key word valid SMA. I've lost count on the...

    key word valid SMA.
    I've lost count on the number of JACE replacement proposals I've seen where the contractor prices the core license all over again. There's a reason Tridium has a hardware only...
  24. Thread: JACE MS/TP woes

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    Note that my issue is more specific in that I'm...

    Note that my issue is more specific in that I'm dealing with some ancient BACnet devices (protocol revision 4).
    Did a bit of extra digging and found out there is a ton of messages being routed to...
  25. Thread: JACE MS/TP woes

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    I agree LTS at 2.5 years is anything but long. ...

    I agree LTS at 2.5 years is anything but long. Makes it incredibly hard to keep a large portfolio up-to-date.
    Ubuntu Core gets a 10 year security update commitment, but Tridium rolled out the Core...
  26. Thread: JACE MS/TP woes

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    That was probably true prior to the mstp engine...

    That was probably true prior to the mstp engine redesign, where they offloaded some of that load to the onboard co-processor.
    After this round of patching, I got this one JACE with 4 active ports...
  27. Thread: JACE MS/TP woes

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    JACE MS/TP woes

    I recently attempted an upgrade on a handful of JACE-8000s from 4.6 to 4.10u6.... what a nightmare that was. CPU at 100%, watchdog timeout reboots, transmit queue overflows, etc.
    This was similar...
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    I've kept a large portfolio on the LTS release...

    I've kept a large portfolio on the LTS release cycle, as they have a few hundred J-8000 in my area.
    I'm hearing they'll be out of stock on JACE-8000 before 4.15 launches (planned for Q3 2024)

    End...
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    That's probably the Echelon IP-852 config server...

    That's probably the Echelon IP-852 config server software. Honeywell would use that on their SymmetrE / EBI servers that talked to with Lon devices over IP-852 channels.
    I recall it didn't have to...
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    Go to File -> Settings -> Application Groups and...

    Go to File -> Settings -> Application Groups and check the Legacy box
    If Distech follows Tridium's support policy, that makes sense as 4.10 is a LTS build (4.10U7 announced). 4.11 and 4.12 both no...
  31. Back in AX 3.4 (12 years ago?) Tridium released a...

    Back in AX 3.4 (12 years ago?) Tridium released a 64-bit version of Workbench and dropped support for serial drivers on those hosts.
    Starting in AX-3.7, NRE serial support was added for a 64-bit...
  32. Thread: Program Service ?

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    yes. Search for the point by name, edit the...

    yes. Search for the point by name, edit the fallback slot. This works for points in a JACE station.
    Once they're on the Supervisor, those slots aren't visible once they are NiagaraNetwork proxy...
  33. alternatively, if you're looking at a .dist file...

    alternatively, if you're looking at a .dist file someone handed to you, META-INF\dist.xml lists all dependencies
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    In Software center: File -> Settings ->...

    In Software center: File -> Settings -> "Application Groups" tab
    Check the "Legacy" checkbox.
    Then look for it under the "Legacy Tab"
    Last EC-Net support pack for AX: version 4.11.21116.1,...
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    page 87, ni_NetSchCurrentState is a Multistate...

    page 87, ni_NetSchCurrentState is a Multistate Value
    ...
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    They give you a full 8 hours for the test...

    They give you a full 8 hours for the test specifically so that those new to Niagara have the time to get through it.
    When I took the N4 crossover class (3 days vs. the typical 5), I had a decade of...
  37. Distech wizards are licensed separately on...

    Distech wizards are licensed separately on non-Distech branded JACEs. So for that reason, I'd go with an EC-BOS-8 assuming you care about being able to configure those VAVs via the wizard....
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    Although one might use a USB to EIA-485 adapter...

    Although one might use a USB to EIA-485 adapter in Windows to capture BACnet traffic, the issue has more to do with serial support on Windows.
    Serial ports on PCs have historically not supported...
  39. Thread: NodeUtil

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    Echelon -> Adesto -> Dialog Semiconductors ->...

    Echelon -> Adesto -> Dialog Semiconductors -> Renesas -> EnOcean
    Latest version here:
    https://enoceanwiki.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/LON/pages/2425007/NodeUtil+and+NodeLoad
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    https://csimn.com/CSI_packages/legacy/AMConfig.zip

    https://csimn.com/CSI_packages/legacy/AMConfig.zip
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    It's been a while since I was involved in...

    It's been a while since I was involved in lighting systems.
    I recall using these Panasonic HID relays (WR-6161K-84). That's what Douglas Lighting Controls had in their panels....
  42. K-12 is the bread and butter of a lot of controls...

    K-12 is the bread and butter of a lot of controls outfits, but a school district's maintenance budgets are thin. So the funding comes from new construction or renovations.
    I know of school...
  43. Thread: Jace 450

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    resurrecting this old thread, the 450E was an...

    resurrecting this old thread, the 450E was an European R2 JACE model.
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    Nils, shoot me an email - see my profile.

    Nils, shoot me an email - see my profile.
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    Looks like there are lots of layers to this...

    Looks like there are lots of layers to this enchilada.
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    0f2a0272878354b329ddbcc7921ec6f38758beb7f122dbaa56...

    0f2a0272878354b329ddbcc7921ec6f38758beb7f122dbaa562228fe92dc8767/
    0f2a0272878354b329ddbcc7921ec6f38758beb7f122dbaa562228fe92dc8767/VERSION...
  47. Thread: AX-N4 Upgrade+LON

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    Unless he re-used the LON option card(s), then...

    Unless he re-used the LON option card(s), then those neuron ids remain the same.
    Not sure if he understood that a JACE-8000 running AX paid extra to downgrade, so the N4 license should be there......
  48. Thread: AX-N4 Upgrade+LON

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    I've seen goofy things when moving a station from...

    I've seen goofy things when moving a station from an AX JACE-6 to an N4 JACE-8000. Probably due to the neuron id change. In that case I've had to recommission the local lon device, then...
  49. Thread: AX-N4 Upgrade+LON

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    Silly question, but why a new J-8000? Was the...

    Silly question, but why a new J-8000?
    Was the SMA gap that large that it was cheaper to buy a new JACE? LOL
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    The subscription model allows for a lower upfront...

    The subscription model allows for a lower upfront cost, letting businesses switch from a CapEx to an OpEx financing model.
    The difference in cost over 5 years is substantially more expensive for the...
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