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  1. Thread: HVACR in Ukraine

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    "How about balconies with small closets... and...

    "How about balconies with small closets... and put the equipment in the closet, with a fan???"

    See that a fair bit here. The Skymark HPs and Friedrich vertical units. Vertical self contained gas...
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    Lol. I can't 'like' your reply enough. :) ...

    Lol. I can't 'like' your reply enough. :)

    Don't think I can get on board with the TP on floor. That could open up more problems than it solves.

    As to the direction of swirl, coriolis effect....
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    Aghh. A light bulb just flickered into life Vin....

    Aghh. A light bulb just flickered into life Vin.

    So what you're saying is, the 'liberal agenda' (or Socialist Progressive Left Agenda, per BB's post), is like Peter Pan's Neverland. You have to...
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    Shoot. Well this is really embarrassing BNM. In...

    Shoot. Well this is really embarrassing BNM. In hindsight, I can see how all my talk of politics obscured and distracted from the question I was trying to get an answer to. Toilet paper rolls, should...
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    Really? Awesome. What's the 'liberal agenda'? :)

    Really? Awesome. What's the 'liberal agenda'? :)
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    Thanks for clearing that up. That context was...

    Thanks for clearing that up. That context was completely clear in your original 6 word post. :/ How could ever I of missed it...

    Oh yeah, I know how, I was taking the pi$$ for fun. You guys are so...
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    I'm lost as to why there is any 'political...

    I'm lost as to why there is any 'political direction' at all!

    We could be discussing the correct orientation of a toilet paper roll on the hanger, it's over the top. :) It would quickly...
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    Does that apply to all deaths? Say I suffer from...

    Does that apply to all deaths? Say I suffer from hemophilla, get shot, bleed out and die. Can the murderer claim innocence due to my pre-existing medical condition?

    What about diabetes? Lets say...
  9. Thread: Moving North

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    Buy a refrigerant cylinder heater! The ones at...

    Buy a refrigerant cylinder heater! The ones at supply houses are way over priced... Look into the ones at camping stores and such for propane cylinders.

    Brazing in freezing temps presents...
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    Go ask Vin the same question. :)

    Go ask Vin the same question. :)
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    Half of the fatalities caused by CV go...

    Half of the fatalities caused by CV go unreported. So let's call it a wash.
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    No. :) Unbiased research would be the actual...

    No. :)

    Unbiased research would be the actual research paper. Without mention of politics.
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    Eek. ^^^ Bad spelling. Sorry. [emoji17]

    Eek. ^^^ Bad spelling. Sorry. [emoji17]
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    It would be unwise to take a pill with unproven...

    It would be unwise to take a pill with unproven safety and efficacy at the direction of a Internet Quack *. Particularly one in which preliminary observational evidence suggests it causes...
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    Allow me to roll it back some and lay it out...

    Allow me to roll it back some and lay it out Vin...

    (Paraphrasing), you believe science has been corrupted by the left to further their 'liberal agenda'.

    How has the science been corrupted, are...
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    I suspect it's a reflection of what constitutes...

    I suspect it's a reflection of what constitutes left or right in our respective countries BB.

    In my countries, I'd be considered centre-right. In the US, based on ARP and my science leanings,...
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    See post #890.

    See post #890.
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    Alleged Certainty (also known as: assuming the...

    Alleged Certainty

    (also known as: assuming the conclusion)
    Description: Asserting a conclusion without evidence or premises, through a statement that makes the conclusion appear certain when, in...
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    I'd say we all commit logically fallacies. I was...

    I'd say we all commit logically fallacies. I was just reading through the list on that website I linked to... Seems almost impossible not to break 'the rules' of debate and stay on topic.

    ARP is...
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    Red Herring Ignoratio elenchi (also known as:...

    Red Herring

    Ignoratio elenchi
    (also known as: beside the point, misdirection [form of], changing the subject, false emphasis, the Chewbacca defense, irrelevant conclusion, irrelevant thesis,...
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    Yep. That's exactly what Vin is doing.

    Yep. That's exactly what Vin is doing.
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    No!! Exact opposite. It was my way of saying, you...

    No!! Exact opposite. It was my way of saying, you think about the topic enough to come up with great points of view and I respect that. And when I can, I will give it the time it deserves.
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    Circular Reasoning circulus in demonstrando...

    Circular Reasoning

    circulus in demonstrando
    (also known as: paradoxical thinking, circular argument, circular cause and consequence, reasoning in a circle)
    Description: A type of reasoning in...
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    I'll have to circle back when time allows BNM....

    I'll have to circle back when time allows BNM. You ask great questions and I really enjoy the alternative perspective you give. Thanks!
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    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200523/499c165e...

    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200523/499c165e13984a565ca45fdc96a0d030.jpg
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    Um, that's because we drastically reduced our ODS...

    Um, that's because we drastically reduced our ODS emissions. Of course you don't hear as much about it anymore, we solved that problem by taking action on a very real issue. Thanks President Reagan!...
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    Yeah, Gus was out there with some of his stuff. I...

    Yeah, Gus was out there with some of his stuff. I do wonder what happened to him... highly suspect he is a repeat/duplicate offender here.
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    Tambora (I assume?) is super interesting!...

    Tambora (I assume?) is super interesting! Volcanoes are a great example of how emmissions and atmospheric composition affects climate change.
    ...
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    Patiently waiting sensei. ...

    Patiently waiting sensei.

    https://amp.theguardian.com/environment/2006/sep/19/ethicalliving.g2
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    No Vin. I just don't agree with you. That in...

    No Vin. I just don't agree with you. That in itself doesn't mean I know 'next to nothing' about politics. I read alot of scientific articles. And an above average amount of political articles. Along...
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    Why would we possibly need to give up our...

    Why would we possibly need to give up our "individual lifestyle". That makes no sense.

    And it make no sense that a global government is required to solve the problem with our GHGs. Sure, working...
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    Right. The only constant is change. It's the rate...

    Right. The only constant is change. It's the rate of change that is concerning.
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    Yes follow the money!!! Tell me Chops, how much...

    Yes follow the money!!! Tell me Chops, how much money do conservative politicians get from big oil? What about the Heartland Institute etc. etc.

    Now, consider that big oils own research states...
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    Along with those claims has come an abundance of...

    Along with those claims has come an abundance of evidence. You may not read and or agree with the evidence Hugh. But my claims of facts are far from sinister or dishonest. I truly believe what I say...
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    BUT you are trying to say liberal involvement...

    BUT you are trying to say liberal involvement affects SCIENCE. How can you possibly not address the science, to see if it has in fact been affected?

    You are trying to come to a conclusion without...
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    All of it. I guess I'm just more 'big picture'...

    All of it. I guess I'm just more 'big picture' than you. :/
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    So you'll write a thesis on your conspiracy...

    So you'll write a thesis on your conspiracy theories, but not read an article about why it's twisted. Makes sense.
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    Dismissive/ ad hominem. How can you...

    Dismissive/ ad hominem.





    How can you possibly have a reasoned opinion on science without having any interest on whether the science is valid or not? That makes no sense.

    It's pretty...
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    Sorry, I forgot to add a fact to the post....

    Sorry, I forgot to add a fact to the post. Anthropogenic climate change is real!

    But don't worry Hugh, scientists are working overtime to find a cure for this man made disease. Thank God for...
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    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/13/toba...

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/13/tobacco-industry-trump-administration-ties

    It's like this Vin, the tobacco scam is what brought science denial to the masses. It's where your...
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    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200522/7f2109e6...

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    What political agenda? I have no idea...

    What political agenda?





    I have no idea what it is. You won't tell me. Worse, you asked me to give an example of it to discuss. Which makes zero sense.
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    Wrong. That may be your twist and objective to...

    Wrong. That may be your twist and objective to use every opportunity to push conspiracy theories. But that doesn't mean I have to come along for the ride.

    Where we began...



    My point is,...
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    Wrong! She died from CV, and it will be counted...

    Wrong! She died from CV, and it will be counted as such. :couchhide:
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    Why do you get to set the parameters of...

    Why do you get to set the parameters of discussion? These threads can be very fluid, in case you haven't noticed.

    I thought we were discussing the 'politicization of science'. Why would we want...
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    +1

    +1
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    Dismissive nonsense. I have no idea if...

    Dismissive nonsense.

    I have no idea if Tobacco is part of 'your' agenda either. I don't know what it is. And you won't tell me.

    However, the exact same players in the denial of tobacco caused...
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    LOL. It always gets a chuckle from me when I open...

    LOL. It always gets a chuckle from me when I open a box of air filters that has a packet of 'California stickers' in it saying they are made with cancer causing materials. Cool... Let me just put...
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    You had one? Must have been pretty dull.

    You had one? Must have been pretty dull.
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    It's the 'liberal agenda' that is the sticky...

    It's the 'liberal agenda' that is the sticky point. I have no idea what it is and you refuse to describe it. Is science used by politicians? I absolutely hope so.

    I did exactly what you asked Vin....
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