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  1. I clearly stated that Paul had never met "the...

    I clearly stated that Paul had never met "the man" Jesus, which is true. Paul was struck by an encounter with Jesus spiritually, seeing only a bright enough light flash to blind him and hearing a...
  2. I didn't use the term "contradictory", someone...

    I didn't use the term "contradictory", someone else did. I don't believe there are any direct contradictions in scripture when we look at the specific time, place and culture of the quotes from...
  3. I'm fine, thanks for asking. I just try to take...

    I'm fine, thanks for asking. I just try to take all scripture as it was intended and not what we want it to allege. Paul was a very different apostle of Jesus Christ in that Paul never knew the man...
  4. You do misunderstand my intent, which may not...

    You do misunderstand my intent, which may not have been expressed the best. All of the New Testament is inspired by God the Father through Jesus Christf, I do believe that. I'm just pointing out that...
  5. Your logic is sound, but keep in mind that many...

    Your logic is sound, but keep in mind that many full days have been rearranged over the centuries so that there is no way for anyone to know exactly which day today is the same day from 2,000 years...
  6. What "opinions" are given in scripture that do...

    What "opinions" are given in scripture that do not come from God through prophets? Even Paul is using scripture and the teachings of Jesus when he addresses specific audiences. Let's face it, Pagan...
  7. Not at all. Read my response to Vin. Paul's...

    Not at all. Read my response to Vin. Paul's writtings are very different than those of prophets, especially Jesus Christ. Paul is an example of second generation teachings of Jesus's teachings for...
  8. I didn't say Paul's writtings can't be trusted. I...

    I didn't say Paul's writtings can't be trusted. I said that Paul's writtings need to be scrutinized better for the specific audiences that Paul was addressing because Paul's writtings may or may not...
  9. Paul's writings must be scrutinized because they...

    Paul's writings must be scrutinized because they are from the mind of a mere mortal who must adjust his thoughts according to the audience he was addressing. Paul, a devout Jew, wrote to the Hebrews...
  10. What's the difference if we rest on Saturday,...

    What's the difference if we rest on Saturday, Friday evening till Saturday at dusk or Sunday? As long as we rest on the seventh day after working for six; who cares what we call that day? Doesn't it...
  11. The term "homosexual" did not come about until...

    The term "homosexual" did not come about until the 19th Century, so scripture cannot address homosexuallity specifically. At the most, scripture can, and does, make reference to sexual acts that are...
  12. LOL! I agree on the son's viewpoint. I do get...

    LOL! I agree on the son's viewpoint. I do get answers, but never in any form of spoken word. I think when we get answers to our prayers, they come via the Holy Spirit. One moment we don't know...
  13. LOL! So am I. While I agree that I am steadfast...

    LOL! So am I. While I agree that I am steadfast to not add any of my own emotion to scripture, I also understand that some assumptions of intent of scripture could be correct. I just don't want to...
  14. Sorry. What you are seeing just isn't actually...

    Sorry. What you are seeing just isn't actually there. You are seeing what you want the passages to state, but they don't actually specify homosexuallity. During these times when birth control was a...
  15. I agree that same sex relationships were not a...

    I agree that same sex relationships were not a big deal at all as long as there was no sodomy involved. Same sex relations between both men and women were encouraged for various reasons. Sex between...
  16. 1 Corinthians 6:9 -10 Young's Literal ...

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    have ye not known that the unrighteous the reign of God shall not inherit? be not led astray; neither whoremongers, nor...
  17. There is a problem with any translation using the...

    There is a problem with any translation using the term "homosexual". The word "homosexual" did not exist prior to the 19th Century, so it is a mis-translation where ever it is used. The actual best...
  18. One thing I think we all should focus on is what...

    One thing I think we all should focus on is what Mad mentioned about Jesus being a radical who redefined a lot of what was done in the OT. This is why the book is called The New Testament. Jesus,...
  19. When it comes to scripture, some of it has...

    When it comes to scripture, some of it has historical value even if the actual events did not occur. Much of scripture is parables, which are stories that may not have actually occurred, but are real...
  20. OKAY! Let's just say it! Lot had a really messed...

    OKAY! Let's just say it! Lot had a really messed up family...just saying.
  21. Sodomy does not equate to homosexuallity. The...

    Sodomy does not equate to homosexuallity. The term "homosexual" didn't even exist until the 19th Century, so there can be no translation of any Aramaic, Koine Greek or Latin words to homosexual. All...
  22. Why not? It seems like a reasonable story to...

    Why not? It seems like a reasonable story to prove loyalty and devotion.
  23. We have no clue as to what the customs of the...

    We have no clue as to what the customs of the peoples of ancient cultures had. It may have been perfectly normal for a father to offer up his daughters for sex to prevent an act against God. Lot did...
  24. Site the specific passages that you believe...

    Site the specific passages that you believe clearly state that God hates homosexuallity and let's discuss them. I have been over this subject many times, and there is no passages that specifically...
  25. No religion or philosophy offers forgiveness of...

    No religion or philosophy offers forgiveness of sin. Only God the creator can make that offer, and God did make that offer through Jesus Christ. This does not mean that all of those in the world...
  26. Does anyone else get the feeling that when God...

    Does anyone else get the feeling that when God checks in on us, God often exclaims; "That's not how it works! That's not how any of this works!"?
  27. Absolutely true. While our physical body does...

    Absolutely true. While our physical body does die, there is no reason to believe our spiritual nature does not live on, as all theological beliefs do indicate.

    In a sense, a creepy sense... we...
  28. This has to be one of the best first posts I've...

    This has to be one of the best first posts I've ever read on this forum.
  29. I have to agree. I do believe that God...

    I have to agree. I do believe that God communicated through prophets what God's will has been for the Hebrews in the Old Testament and by extension, everyone, through Jesus Christ; the absolute last...
  30. This is true and more accurate than claims that...

    This is true and more accurate than claims that God hates/rejects homosexuallity. It is very clear that God does not want us to engage in sodomy, whether with a man or a woman, and the reasons are...
  31. I trust Jesus's authority as God the Father...

    I trust Jesus's authority as God the Father because I tested His story up one side and down the other as if in a legal hearing and there is nothing indicating that Jesus's story is false. Jesus is...
  32. How about we look at this situation in a...

    How about we look at this situation in a different way? What if every word of scripture is accurate and true but we are in error as to how we have translated all of the words and in error of what...
  33. The way I see it, we all are a duality of beings....

    The way I see it, we all are a duality of beings. We are the physical being called man, but our primary existence seems to be our soul, which is spiritual which is supernatural.
    Since the creator...
  34. Heaven and forms of devil (Satan, Lucifer, fallen...

    Heaven and forms of devil (Satan, Lucifer, fallen angel etc.) are found in the Old Testament quite a few times. Hell, as the opposite of Heaven, is not Biblical. What has been wrongly translated to...
  35. Most biblical scholars reach different...

    Most biblical scholars reach different conclusions. Maybe that's the point of some scripture; that we get out of scripture what we specifically need to get from it. Or maybe, we just don't relate...
  36. This is true, but if not Satan or a minion of...

    This is true, but if not Satan or a minion of Satan, than who...or what? The Aramaic word used is the same word used in Job that we translate to leviathan, which is described more like the allegedly...
  37. The two most contraversial books of the Bible are...

    The two most contraversial books of the Bible are the first, Genesis, and the last, Revelation. Genesis is so contraversial due to how little information is actually provided while Revelation is...
  38. There is more relative insight in this post than...

    There is more relative insight in this post than in any other post on this thread. Yes, I do believe that Jesus Christ is who He claims to be, and yes I do believe Jesus Christ is unique in having...
  39. I have no doubt that living in most any other...

    I have no doubt that living in most any other era, I would be burned at a stake or something nastier.
  40. The FSM is always fun to refer to, and does fit a...

    The FSM is always fun to refer to, and does fit a purpose for discussion. I did not say that I believe Jesus Christ is the "only" mortal possessing the spirit of God the Father, but there are no...
  41. Interesting that I was brought up under the same...

    Interesting that I was brought up under the same conditions, rebelled against the existance of God and through intense study of theology, archaeology, etymology and anthropological history, I came to...
  42. I was thinking the same. The Golden Rule does not...

    I was thinking the same. The Golden Rule does not actually apply because there are those who want to be treated meanly, with contempt and disrespect. The Flying Spaghetti Monster, if it exists, would...
  43. What I get out of theological teachings is that...

    What I get out of theological teachings is that God gave us the right and reason to choose between good and evil along with teachings on how best to choose good, and that God wants us to live better...
  44. For Christians, the historical value of the Old...

    For Christians, the historical value of the Old (Hebrew) Testament is interesting, but not much needed for understanding God. The teachings of Jesus Christ are what we need to dwell on; not Old...
  45. Prophecy in b=general does not work because that...

    Prophecy in b=general does not work because that would indicate predestiny which would eliminate free will. While I do believe all of scripture is accurate and true, I don't believe we completely...
  46. Not a Billy Joel fan, eh? You May Be Right...

    Not a Billy Joel fan, eh?


    You May Be Right
    Billy Joel

    Friday night I crashed your party
    Saturday I said I'm sorry
    Sunday came and trashed me out again
    I was only having fun
  47. Mad; I see nothing wrong in our having...

    Mad; I see nothing wrong in our having differences in opinion on this one because it is all just a matter of perspective. I may be right, you may be crazy...or vice versa.
  48. I don't agree with your thoughts on this subject,...

    I don't agree with your thoughts on this subject, but can't say you are wrong any more than I could prove that my thoughts on the subject are correct.
    I don't find it at all odd that the creator of...
  49. There is no hint of superhero powers involved if...

    There is no hint of superhero powers involved if Jesus indeed di walk on water, change water to wine or heal the incurable. The take away from these incidences is supposed to be that God incarnate in...
  50. It is possible that Jesus Christ did not...

    It is possible that Jesus Christ did not literally walk on water but rather that story is a parable that we may not fully understand. However, I have no problem believing that the man who was...
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