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  1. I did johnson LON around 2014. They were...

    I did johnson LON around 2014. They were relabeled Distech. Everything about it was pure Distech except the sticker... which was annoying because all I knew was Johnson before that...
    Here is a...
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    Orion, you said: That reminded me that you...

    Orion, you said:

    That reminded me that you intended to try to blow up a router:
    I was hoping for a video with fireworks....[emoji6] Did you ever get around to doing that?
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    In the name of customer education.... Mr. 3AE,...

    In the name of customer education....
    Mr. 3AE, this practice is to try their best to keep other vendors out of their buildings. The ONLY way to talk ARC156 is using an ALC device/router. This means...
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    I can say I have never dismembered their...

    I can say I have never dismembered their controllers.. and s2sam usually has good insights. Trust his assesments.
    Out of curiosity sam, do you happen to know what kind of controllers you dismembered...
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    I do JCI, niagara, Distech, Delta, Schneider...

    I do JCI, niagara, Distech, Delta, Schneider occasionally, and I am a 2nd string Siemens guy. KMC if I have to.
    I REALLY like Delta. I like their company culture, tech support is EASY to get as a...
  6. No, the n4mig command that migrates the stations...

    No, the n4mig command that migrates the stations from AX to N4. I suppose it is not much of a wizard, but the conversion process is quite smooth if you prep well.
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    I love your perspective Sam. Not to be too...

    I love your perspective Sam.
    Not to be too cynical, but the result is I have increased the margin on my project (through lower install labor) and it is offset by higher service costs that I can...
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    I figured that was coming. [emoji6] The saved...

    I figured that was coming. [emoji6]
    The saved time and expense of not needing a power wire and transformers is offset by the need for more and more expensive switches. So daisy chaining is helpful,...
  9. Me too. Just treat it like any upgrade. I try to...

    Me too. Just treat it like any upgrade. I try to keep a pile of oddball modules to facilitate the upgrade process. Like any upgrade, it is MUCH easier to get the upgrade wizard to do it for you.
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    Absolutely.

    Absolutely.
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    There is a means by which to power the things...

    There is a means by which to power the things that is not POE. Good. DC, not as good.
    Also, when distec IP controllers fail, the internal switch fails in a way that allows the BacNetIP Data to pass...
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    I understand the concept, but I actually prefer...

    I understand the concept, but I actually prefer the old fashioned way of powering controllers. I have predictability in install, the CAT5 does not need home runs to the switch... and a few other...
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    I remember at one time there was a kerfuffle that...

    I remember at one time there was a kerfuffle that there was no way that was not wireless to use CCT. The DOD was not happy with that on their sites. This is an elegant solution. I recognize the blue...
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    Super cool. What is the pinout? Is that in the...

    Super cool. What is the pinout? Is that in the FSC SDB? I bet it is....
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    http://www.ajopaul.com/2012/06/08/niagara-ax-how-t...

    http://www.ajopaul.com/2012/06/08/niagara-ax-how-to-increase-workbench-client-request-timeout/
    I think that might be it. When I get back to work I may try it.
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    I was talking to Distech, and told them that the...

    I was talking to Distech, and told them that the LON support provide varies greatly in quality... (hint: maybe some of your guys need a refresher) the response was 'Be glad we support it' in a nice...
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    RNI? Are you offering to bund my network for me?...

    RNI?
    Are you offering to bund my network for me? [emoji16]
    The site is 30 JACEs, a Websup, Envysion graphics and so on. Cannot really ditch the JACE altogether. Perhaps you mean bind the thing...
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    JCI has software developers designing their BAS...

    JCI has software developers designing their BAS code, and pushing updates regularly. Their stuff is modularized, so an updated module pops into place and does not disturb other modules. The downside...
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    Uh, you mean I should go get a copy of LNS, and...

    Uh, you mean I should go get a copy of LNS, and use it to make the binds? Or the Niagara file that has the Fox Connection timeout setting is called LNS?
    I was of the impression that the LON links...
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    Update - turns out when I look at these links in...

    Update - turns out when I look at these links in the LON link manager that a large number of them come up as new links, and not bound. So I been binding these as fast as I can. I do not know whether...
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    I would LUV to know more about that. PM me or...

    I would LUV to know more about that. PM me or something.
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    Active Presenter. Google it. [emoji3]

    Active Presenter. Google it. [emoji3]
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    oh sure you seem pleasant enough. Just wondering...

    oh sure you seem pleasant enough. Just wondering what sort of response you usually get. Good to be friendly.
    Also, if you are looking for people to manufacture you a controller (as mentioned in the...
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    Suggestion on your video... Normalize the audio...

    Suggestion on your video...
    Normalize the audio - I can barely make out what you are saying with headphones turned all the way up
    Somebody with a nose whistle is breathing into the camera... not...
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    I heard the example that Analytics can compare...

    I heard the example that Analytics can compare the DAT at the AHU to the DAT at the VAV, of the reheat is closed, but you have a temp rise, it may alert you that the vav reheat valve is leaking by. ...
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    Alper, is this the sort of response you typically...

    Alper, is this the sort of response you typically get? Skepticism through to hostility?
    I do not run in your circles, so I am curious.
  28. Well I never tried that. I suppose so. There is...

    Well I never tried that. I suppose so. There is also the process for recovering an unreachable JACE you can do as well. Filezilla, ftp connection, and so on.
  29. Perhaps trying other manufacturers default creds?...

    Perhaps trying other manufacturers default creds?
    Not assume anything, but you should be serial shelled into the JACE on a backup button reset to confirm the action.... you very likely know that,...
  30. There is also the backup button reset.... Place...

    There is also the backup button reset....
    Place gun at temple
    Pull trigger
    Default creds always work after that
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    I actually REALLY appreciate the background -...

    I actually REALLY appreciate the background - super helpful and makes me look like I know what I am talking about in a room full of people. :grin2:

    Would you be able to comment directly on the...
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    There are A LOT of posts here on getting into...

    There are A LOT of posts here on getting into these. Do a search and I am sure you will get what you need. To help with that, UNT and AHU controllers are in the same product line. They all talk N2,...
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    Thanks for the response! How will this affect...

    Thanks for the response!
    How will this affect CPU usage on the JACEs?
    There is 1 Sup and 20 or so JACEs. I am assuming this goes on the Sup and does its thing using historical data there....
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    These are GFX. All ECL controllers. Thanks for...

    These are GFX. All ECL controllers.
    Thanks for the tip on Duplication, I would have totally done that. I do not know if these were done that way... the station was done in 2013. The contractor...
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    The bindings are made, and many work. But the...

    The bindings are made, and many work. But the values do not carry through. How would you make this happen in your particular programming system? Lay it out and I will try to apply it to Distech.
    It...
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    LON nvi's not updating

    I have a large Distech LON network that is 95% LON links doing Trim and respond, occupancy, and so on.
    I am new to LON, getting throwed in the deep end.
    There are nvi bindings for occupancy that...
  37. I kinda figured. Especially with the recent...

    I kinda figured. Especially with the recent takeover of JCI (happens every 5-7 years) JCI shed people like crazy for the last year or so - so whatever talent there still was is likely gone - will be...
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    my apologies if I hijack the thread, but I...

    my apologies if I hijack the thread, but I thought only Johnson had auto tuning PIDs. Someone else gots them too?
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    The shop was in an area that served 2 cities with...

    The shop was in an area that served 2 cities with a population of around 700k, but were consistently in the top 10 Alerton shops in the country. So they had stuck to their line, and had a few large,...
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    This dividing the Station job is squarely in the...

    This dividing the Station job is squarely in the category of a learning experience for the sales guy. Do not let a customer who has no idea what he is talking about dictate your controls work - or...
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    Oh so true! I was at a long time Alerton shop...

    Oh so true!
    I was at a long time Alerton shop that picked up Distech so they could do access control and other things that Alerton does not support. the guys were soon VERY unimpressed with Alerton....
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    Either that or I never had the privilege of being...

    Either that or I never had the privilege of being in a Target for Automation work....
  43. Elaborate please? Hardware quality, software, or...

    Elaborate please? Hardware quality, software, or technical expertise of the people who do their service? All of the above?
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    I like unambiguous nature of the post here. Hehe...

    I like unambiguous nature of the post here. Hehe
    Who is SP?
    Sounds like anything Niagara, especially complicated stuff. There is plenty of rope to hang one's self.
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    Anybody use Skyspark?

    This is being suggested by a 3rd party guy with trust from the customer, but I have reason to doubt his abilities and expertise. So before I get stuck trying to make some ill-advised pipe dream work,...
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    Thus is how it is currently set up, I was not too...

    Thus is how it is currently set up, I was not too clear when I said:
    That is why the CPU usage is only 30-40%. The anticipation is that the Skyspark software will double the CPU usage, meaning we...
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    I really need to read up on all of this. My LON...

    I really need to read up on all of this. My LON skills are not so good, but getting better as I get throwed in the deep end... suggestions appreciated, details welcome.
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    Background, now that I got a minute. I get told...

    Background, now that I got a minute. I get told by the sales lackey that I need to split a JACE into 3. Here are JACEs, do it.
    Uhhhh... so is there a backup? What is on this thing? Nobody has a...
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    oh yeah, no chance the JCI rank and file will be...

    oh yeah, no chance the JCI rank and file will be picking that up. The FX guys maybe, since they need to deal with Niagara.
    Johnson actually outbid Acuity for Distech, but Distech said no - does not...
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    I know nothing about EasyIO, but I know working...

    I know nothing about EasyIO, but I know working for and with Johnson is like sitting at a table with a rabid sociopathic axe murderer - you are only safe when he is fixated on evicerating someone...
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