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  1. And what they don't mention and I'm sure is the...

    And what they don't mention and I'm sure is the case its over the total allowable span. Something I also want to look into.

    Say its 0-10v but you need 2-10v. Guessing now instead of 100 steps,...
  2. Option 3 Salesman fixes his mistake...

    Option 3 Salesman fixes his mistake...
  3. Those things always looked ridiculous to me. ...

    Those things always looked ridiculous to me. Damn things are normally 5x larger than the valve body.

    Would be interesting to get one and take a look at its resolution. From what I understand is...
  4. Those big round power hungry bastards?

    Those big round power hungry bastards?
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    :eek2: Should be a traffic generator, for sure....

    :eek2: Should be a traffic generator, for sure.

    Tuning policy, use them. Much easier.
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    One would have to adjust P & I terms differently...

    One would have to adjust P & I terms differently based on error. Trim and respond might work, but its two different error issues that need to be sorted out separately. That's ignoring outside...
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    One of the headaches with third party tools is...

    One of the headaches with third party tools is there is no/little commonality between PIDs.

    Some treat gain as "throttling range" other use it as a multiplier on the error. They work backwards...
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    Lol. Wishful thinking if it hasn't been done...

    Lol. Wishful thinking if it hasn't been done already I suspect.

    Although is covid puts most on unemployment, maybe there will be some board hands to take a wack at it.
  9. Nope your adding to the Niagara driver, look...

    Nope your adding to the Niagara driver, look there.
  10. Its worth looking at the license file and...

    Its worth looking at the license file and understand how to read these limits.

    If you have added deleted and added more, its worth a station restart. Funny enough they only calc adds and not...
  11. Yep. Trying to sneak one more station then your...

    Yep. Trying to sneak one more station then your licensed for? Shame on you! lol.
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    Did work with N2 open and signed off as needed...

    Did work with N2 open and signed off as needed back then. These days, little point.

    Somewhat aware of the other flavors. Still have the same basic thought.
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    Have to wonder if this was elegant solution to a...

    Have to wonder if this was elegant solution to a real problem or just kludges to the original design failed to foresee.
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    Beside myself that here in the US almost 100+...

    Beside myself that here in the US almost 100+ people a day die in car accidents, but something that in a couple of months time has killed 100 people (likely where already on the way out) is something...
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    Seems so. Thanks!

    Seems so. Thanks!
  16. I just go in the controls pro area without...

    I just go in the controls pro area without switching to themes.

    Yea team!
  17. Mounting vertical was some of the initial...

    Mounting vertical was some of the initial theories. Space was the main issue, no room for piping between all the coils. The coil manufacture didn't seem to have issue with the mounting as I'm sure...
  18. Never heard of them till this. Not too often I...

    Never heard of them till this. Not too often I have a need to dive into coil design. Was quite the head scratcher until someone came up with a cut away of how this coil was constructed. Tons of...
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    Old problem. Install all the patches for 3.7 and...

    Old problem. Install all the patches for 3.7 and it will fix this.
  20. This work around mentioned already works for me....

    This work around mentioned already works for me.

    On the PC go to the bottom left of the page and switch the theme from HVAC light to HVAC mobile. Bit of a kludge but it works.
  21. Pumped coil is a plus. Seen a few cases where...

    Pumped coil is a plus. Seen a few cases where without it and all you need is a trickle of HW, the coil just ends up hot in one tiny spot and the rest is stone cold aka freezestat tripping again. ...
  22. Definitely what I had in mind if they use water...

    Definitely what I had in mind if they use water coils. The resolution on modern actuators was a bit of let down when I dove into that. Perfectly fine for 99.9% of the applications, but if your...
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    Looks like a file permission issue to me. ...

    Looks like a file permission issue to me. Guessing its trying to access the user home and getting shot down.

    Would take a peek in the event viewer for some bread crumbs. win 10, check if...
  24. Lol. Should be an economic theory. As the...

    Lol.

    Should be an economic theory. As the decimal point moves to the left on your requirements, it moves to the right on my quote.
  25. Thanks guys. Guess what I’m hearing is it is...

    Thanks guys.

    Guess what I’m hearing is it is possible which was the first concern. Should be a fun hunt for sensors when the time comes.
  26. Kinda what I was thinking. Can't see how else...

    Kinda what I was thinking. Can't see how else you could pull this off.



    All the existing equipment is clapped out garbage that's been completely sodomized with 30+ yrs of bandaids. This will...
  27. These are non-issues, do this on other spaces...

    These are non-issues, do this on other spaces with demanding requirements. More on the +/-3F 3%rh type stuff. However if I can’t read at least maybe half of spec I need to maintain, recipe for...
  28. What are they using for the space sensors? ...

    What are they using for the space sensors?

    Even the high end Vaisala gear I would normally has an accuracy of +/-0.18F not sure what the repeatability is. Could be a mile off as long as it can...
  29. What’s the tightest temp spec you have controlled?

    Was talking with a customer’s ME today on an upcoming renovation that’s in the early design phase. They mentioned they sat down with the group that manages the existing space to figure out their...
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    https://hvac-talk.com/vbb/showthread.php?2216171-C...

    https://hvac-talk.com/vbb/showthread.php?2216171-Controls-pro-forum-bad-gateway

    They are looking into it. Seems there is a wad of us in this boat currently.
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    Just an initial peek at this... The site is...

    Just an initial peek at this...

    The site is forced tls, so capture is a PITA. Not a huge problem under firefox with the web dev tools.

    There is a php script that is handling all the pages...
  32. Lol. Seems we are all going to die here now. ...

    Lol. Seems we are all going to die here now. Least climate change has taken a back burner for the next 14^x days.

    Asked for hazard pay to work a city block from a local hot spot, didn't pan out....
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    I'll dive in. Something is amiss if my phone is...

    I'll dive in. Something is amiss if my phone is fine, but several pcs and diff browsers come up with the same issue.

    Seems I'm not alone, so something is borked and it could be some crazy case. ...
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    Still get it on three diff PCs. Chrome,...

    Still get it on three diff PCs.

    Chrome, cleared cache still the same. Don't use chrome for anything other than some security cams, so wouldn't be anything cached.

    FF I run in private mode,...
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    Strange. Laptop, no dice. Phone, no problem...

    Strange.

    Laptop, no dice. Phone, no problem with FF on Android. Both are using verizon wireless...
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    But it's working on my android phone. Either you...

    But it's working on my android phone. Either you just fixed it or somethings really screwy.
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    Closed the browser started all over still get it....

    Closed the browser started all over still get it. Even not logged in you get it.
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    Yep. FF & chrome same thing. 814476

    Yep. FF & chrome same thing.

    814476
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    Controls pro forum - bad gateway

    Title sums its up. Getting 502 bad gateway when you click on the controls/pro forum.

    Nice to see the old site again.
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    Use slightly different setpoints. Bypass is a...

    Use slightly different setpoints. Bypass is a bit higher than the pump. Pumps hit min, if the pressure rises a bit more, bypass starts to open.
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    Or does everything become sodna?

    Or does everything become sodna?
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    Maybe I'm missing something. The points I have...

    Maybe I'm missing something. The points I have to invoke the magic property are typically setpoints the customer wants/requires adjustment. These are settings that almost never change off memory,...
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    HA! Agree. The bottom is so bad, its really...

    HA!

    Agree. The bottom is so bad, its really not hard to become 5 star for the customers that figure out its not worth the hassle.
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    If they require multiple bids and the...

    If they require multiple bids and the requirements are such they can't get X bidders, its back to the drawing board.

    Insured for that amount, ok. Make it bonded for that amount, and watch...
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    Well said lol. Public work sometimes has...

    Well said lol.

    Public work sometimes has strict rules. They just deal with the fallout and misery that comes with them because those costs aren't part of the bid day equation. Someone gets to...
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    You would really be going out of your way to...

    You would really be going out of your way to mount it remote of the controller, but logic certainly can't be counted on.
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    Controls contractor or extortionist? Really, wtf?

    Controls contractor or extortionist? Really, wtf?
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    Doubtful, they just document their SOO in a piss...

    Doubtful, they just document their SOO in a piss poor manor. Its a game of including everything that might apply to any unit you could order and you have to sort it all out. One SOO to cover them...
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    And as an owner/Cx if I was looking for QC on the...

    And as an owner/Cx if I was looking for QC on the smallest of budget, I would spend 15min a unit and verify the safeties operate correctly. Its a one time check, quick and easy. In what I have...
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    Figured as much, no worries. The only thing I...

    Figured as much, no worries.

    The only thing I would be aware of on the RIB safety card is the dip switches and sticky fingers. These are for bypassing unused inputs. We typically have these in a...
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