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yeah gotta agree on that one.
Loytec is the goto for easy to integrate touchpanels.

They have a cheaper LPAD 7" out now too, which can come with fully programmable I/O on board.

from memory I think if you go into Event Viewer in Win98 you can see if the ComfortView services have started.
sometimes they did not start properly, so you need to manually stop/start them to get...

They way I have seen it work in large industrial facilities is, the IT department stores the PLC and BMS laptops. the laptops are managed and maintained by the IT department (however they rarely...

Seems like it may be something like the APDU timeout is too short and needs to be tuned to suit the MSTP.
Try increasing the APDU timings.

haha I wish!
can't afford to be warehouse, so its means I look elsewhere, even if if I have to burn a bit to keep the customer and rep happy.

its the times we live in these days....

5% increase on the main product line we use, and 20+ week delay from request, is getting more and more common.

Depends on where you are located.
The Euro list price is Euro.
If your in USA/Canada then you can contact Loytec Americas.

PM me if you need any further help (its kind of limited what we can...

This should do what you want.

830505

It has node.red on board without any licensing requirements.
Or you can use the builtin graphics interface LWEB-802 if you prefer.

I reckon this guy is gold

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-7mKuIQA9iioWvH7xL4pJw

haha sorry Kontrol didnt realise you had already posted the link!!

I know you hate these things but this is another option
https://www.loytec.com/products/linx/linx-20x

It would be interesting to do a comparison between them.
Obvious things I see are:
Price...

interesting article here too

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2021-08-12/metals-technology-clean-solar-wind-batteries-phones/100338862

I would put it right up there with Tridium, especially in terms of complexity.
The good thing about it is there are no hidden fees or licences.....once you buy the product its totally yours....

Computer says "No"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0n_Ty_72Qds

Dont be the Controls guy that believes the computer over whats happening in the field!

Try Prosoft, they should have a gateway that suits your needs.

wow didnt know these old things were still available!!

I think you will need CView or NSTV to be able to change the config settings and download them into the PSIO.

Hey numba,
nah, I havent used but I have provided it to others, so sorry I cant tell you how good or bad it is.

I wasnt sure how much info u have on it already, I am assuming you have the manual...

See attached, hopefully it has some useful info for you.

The Bacnet addressing must be setup by accessing the Config tables which reside on the CCN side of the device.
To achieve this you must use a proprietary tool such as NSTV or ComfortView, to modify...

Back in the mid to late 80's (yeah now thats showing my age!!), I started my working life as a fridgie in a state hospital.
They employed a Condition Monitoring Technician and one of his job roles...

From memory, (its been a long time since I played with these), there were issues with the CCN commport having no protection at all.
If there was any possible power spikes or interference on the CCN...

I am probably less educated than you......lol!

So thats the extent of my input into your queries unfortunately, perhaps someone else can chime in and provide you with some more detailed info, on...

Haha, of course the device can fail just like any any controller on any network.....:whistle:



Yes you are correct they dont pass data when failed off. So that is why Loytec recommends setting...

RTFM = Read The F****ing Manual !!!

I thought you guys were up to speed with all this lingo....haha

Good stuff mate!!

yeah its one thing I have learned......no matter how much I reckon I know, I still gotta go back to the bloody manuals at some point!!

Just dont tell missus!!

Hi Freezer,
Well the obvious thing to say RTFM.....lol
If you look on page 176 it explains in detail how the datapoints can be setup.
Also page 258 of the manual explains datapoint updates in...

Loytec displays have been the goto for a long time.
http://www.loytec.com/products/lvis

But you get what you pay....;)

Loytec is native OPC XML-DA and/or OPC UA, with Bacnet/IP and/or mstp.
So something like an LGATE may be a simple solution for you.

Its the same thing
Take a look at the attached manual from Loytec which may help explain things a bit better for you.

The Loytec 7" will definately do the job (assuming you only need MSTP).
Although the Ethernet interface is the preferred method.

It's flush mount and capacitive screen means it is well suited for...

I've had this before on CCN gear, and what I found was a twist in the cable so reversing the connections at the missing devices resolved the issue.
Not sure if its the same here? maybe give it a go.

A good option that works well is the products from HVACRControl.
http://www.hvacrcontrol.com/language/en/

they do a CCN to Bacnet/Modbus gateway and it can be TCP or RTU.
Google them and check...

Exactly!!

One of our customers, put a spec out for a new lighting control system and specified it had to be KNX.
The primary BMS is Bacnet.

To put in a complying bid we priced up a KNX system...

What model chiller is it?
How old is the Chiller?
What control system is it using?
Where was the chiller made?

Are you using Modbus RTU or TCP?

You need to know these to know what options...

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oops

So who else likes to go "fishing"?

Loytec is another one that is very open.
http://www.loytec.com

excellenty product, steep learning curve.

just do the training and your good to go.
tech support has always been prompt in my...

What happens then when the glaobal controller, has a power outage, drops comms, locks up, or does something unforeseen.
Whats the effect on all the unitary controllers that use the subroutine?

I...

Yeah I do know where your coming from Osiyo :)
I was just being a bit too simplistic perhaps.

I've had experience with some younger people who call themselves engineers because they have done a...

In my opinion new people looking to get into controls need to follow the "What, Why and How", principle.

1 What- Understand what you are controlling, what the system and equipment is and what it...

Double check the bus N° and element N° are correct.

if so, then disconnect all other devices on the network, and create a direct connection between your laptop and the CCN device, to enure that...

In the CVIEW folder there is documentation on how to connect to CCN devices.
This should help get back up and running.

I think its interesting how discussions have moved on from the "LON vs BACNET" debates, into a "Niagara vs the rest" debates.

Niagara seems to be the new "LON" where intelligent sales and...

Why dont you download 'Eikon for Educators'?

I noticed it has a control program, for exactly what you are asking for.
It will generate your logic for you.

Thanks for the info guys,

The existing version we have does have the option, however Honeywell have admitted that it doesn't work, and the only solution is to upgrade the software to a later...

I have a Honeywell LON site where the customer wants to receive alarms on there cell phone.

The EBI version does not support dial out capability (I think its 410).

Does anybody know of an...

I got the HVACRcontrol CCN gateways for about $750.

It turned out cheaper than I could get the 33CNTRAN for multiple chillers (1x device can do up to 6 chillers I think).
But AHI put big markups...

Prodialog machines were made in France.
They do use the standard CCN proprietary protocol, and the translator does work on it.
However you do need Network Service tool or Comfortview to configure...

There was a free bacnet/IP discovery tool someone developed and posted on here.........I cant remember the name of it, but if you do a search you should be able to find it.
Do you have the Daikin...

You could try something from Loytec, they have some good Lon/Bacnet interfacing devices.
I've used them before and been satisfied with them.