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  1. But as bacnet said, they do have a few WSHP...

    But as bacnet said, they do have a few WSHP programs. Looking at the Carrier WSHP logic, they sure do load it up with a bunch of cr@ck as compaired to a ALC program! I would just modify the existing...
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    I would bet you can. I'll have to Bacscope it and...

    I would bet you can. I'll have to Bacscope it and see what the raw bacnet info is. Had to do that with other manufactures over the years. If I ever get that kinda free time on a job...or better yet I...
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    I can't rap my head around why it would need an...

    I can't rap my head around why it would need an external control...to do what it is designed to do.
    So I guess I can't help. But it can be done.
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    Let's back up a bit. What is it your looking to...

    Let's back up a bit. What is it your looking to do?
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    The reality is some places just don't spend...

    The reality is some places just don't spend money. 20+ years for controls is ok and for me common..finding parts and people who can still work on them might be a problem. I always suggest ebay.
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    You boys must have been on the cutting edge. The...

    You boys must have been on the cutting edge. The first viewbuilder file I saw was only 2 years ago.
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    What is the FB name?

    What is the FB name?
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    They put folders into folders. The import rarely...

    They put folders into folders. The import rarely works correctly with these graphics. Hope I wrong!
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    Liebert just stuck to the pre-viewbuilder way of...

    Liebert just stuck to the pre-viewbuilder way of making graphics. Look under the Graphics folder, you'll need good old MS Frontpage. ALC had a plug in for that back in the day.
    They do have...
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    Click the question mark on the top right hand...

    Click the question mark on the top right hand corner of the screen. That'll give you all the basics and enough info to be dangerous. If it's new, it's under warranty. Pick the brains of the service...
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    WebCTRL just works with Viconics. Also I have a...

    WebCTRL just works with Viconics. Also I have a few sites under a BASRT and it's works great.You do loose some WebCTRL features, but the price is right.
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    You buy it and it's yours. They do have a few...

    You buy it and it's yours. They do have a few flavors depending on what you need.

    WebCTRL Standard - 200 points and no available add on's.
    WebCTRL Advantage - 500 point.
    WebCTRL Premium - No...
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    Why remove the head end? It will work just fine...

    Why remove the head end? It will work just fine without it, but you'll lose all your WebCTRL tools.Leave it in place and do your thing.
  14. - Thick skin. It will always be your fault, get...

    - Thick skin. It will always be your fault, get use to it. IT problems, mechanical problems, electrical faults, lack of maintenance, operators errors...yep..your problems.
    - The best piece of...
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    You shouldn't have an issue.

    You shouldn't have an issue.
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    Do you mean function 3 and 4? They do.

    Do you mean function 3 and 4? They do.
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    Do a modest and you'll get the program name and...

    Do a modest and you'll get the program name and device instance. Liebert's where pretty canned, so chances are someone here has it. Then recreate in Sitebuilder.
  18. I find the control end of the training is pretty...

    I find the control end of the training is pretty poor here in the states. I got lucky since when I started in '93 since I had a solid background in HVAC, And I was one of the few people who where...
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    Man, way off topic. Guess you knew Shalabh?

    Man, way off topic. Guess you knew Shalabh?
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    Bacnet points are free.

    Bacnet points are free.
  21. Not to hijack the thread..but how many of us get...

    Not to hijack the thread..but how many of us get to go home when things aren't going right at a critical site? Anything over (8)hr is OT.
    A fixed salary is unacceptable in the field.
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    The SE can now accept multi programs. You'll need...

    The SE can now accept multi programs. You'll need to update the driver.
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    I lived that dream about 5 years ago with Carel....

    I lived that dream about 5 years ago with Carel. I had around 100 some odd units giving me fits and taking down the networks. It turned out they set all the COV's to "0". The network traffic was...
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    The old Uline ALC controls used a 4 wire bus with...

    The old Uline ALC controls used a 4 wire bus with 14g 24vac on one pair and MS/TP 22/2 cap on the other. Works just fine in HVAC.
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    The Open UPC card is already bacnet MS/TP. Just...

    The Open UPC card is already bacnet MS/TP. Just give it an address and discover your points.
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    That's pretty slick for the price.

    That's pretty slick for the price.
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    The LGR's I've see get weird after 30 or so...

    The LGR's I've see get weird after 30 or so subnets. Make me wonder how well the auto bbmd works after a few dozen. But we should never outgrow 500!
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    From the technical instructions, BBMD...

    From the technical instructions,
    BBMD Entries—the number of entries in the BBMD table (500 maximum)
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    I don't think it's the board. Those Bacnet Pid's...

    I don't think it's the board. Those Bacnet Pid's are memory hogs. Funny Carrier only uses the Bacnet PID? Does it work with only one? The latest driver is drv_ucopen_std_6-02-018.driver.

    Don't...
  30. Thread: ALC OptiFlex

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    I've done enough site with strictly MS/TP....

    I've done enough site with strictly MS/TP. Basically slower version of bacnet Arcnet is not proprietary, but nobody is using it. Why? It's an ASHRA standard.
    ALC new controls seem to be catching up,...
  31. Thread: ALC OptiFlex

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    Ditto. The new stuff really looks good.

    Ditto. The new stuff really looks good.
  32. Thread: ALC OptiFlex

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    Agreed! It needs a 4-20ma input! How about a dc...

    Agreed! It needs a 4-20ma input! How about a dc power supply! Engineers just assume it's a cheap replacement for the legacy S6104's until I stick them with real bill to complete.
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    Sounds too much like Initech....now where's my...

    Sounds too much like Initech....now where's my stapler?
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    Man what mess...Only take the mystery calls on...

    Man what mess...Only take the mystery calls on T&M!
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    I second that! Creston is the worst. I was forced...

    I second that! Creston is the worst. I was forced to integrate ar a billionaires house...terrible!
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    As other said, go with the Danfoss, ABB or...

    As other said, go with the Danfoss, ABB or Yaskawa. You might be able to find a good small HP used ACH550 or similar on ebay to play with. In any event, all the programming, graphics have already...
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    Another good reason not to buy them..more Chinese...

    Another good reason not to buy them..more Chinese and Chicom junk!

    Factory Sites:
    Taipei:No.168, Liancheng Rd., Zhonghe Dist., New Taipei City 235, Taiwan (R.O.C.)
    China:No.12, Shuang-Fu Rd.,...
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    How ever you go, just have one pid loop sending...

    How ever you go, just have one pid loop sending out all the ao's that controlling the pressure. Nothing worse then having 10 units fighting each other.
  39. They got some samples? I'm really getting...

    They got some samples? I'm really getting clobbered since EnergyReports is going away. Advanced Reporting will never be as good, and I don't have the time to recreate all those graphics!
  40. That's going to be an impossible question to...

    That's going to be an impossible question to answer. Most of my existing programming is never going to be touched after an upgrade. So you might be running WebCTRL 7.0. But the original logic was...
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    Check your mail.

    Check your mail.
  42. Thread: TAC MN-CIM

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    Send me an email!

    Send me an email!
  43. Thread: TAC MN-CIM

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    804224 Guess it's at least 15 years since I...

    804224

    Guess it's at least 15 years since I last ran into one.
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    Your first post and you have your hand out? .......

    Your first post and you have your hand out? .... :gah: Put you email into your profile! Do you have the superset license? That being said ....yes I do. But I would imagine most ALC dealers have...
  45. Thread: TAC MN-CIM

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    I have on sitting my i don't know / don't care...

    I have on sitting my i don't know / don't care drawer at home. Do you need a picture?
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    If you have 30#'s nearby! What BB said! Bet a...

    If you have 30#'s nearby! What BB said!
    Bet a stand alone VAV is available cheap on ebay.
  47. If I only didn't have the backlog of work with a...

    If I only didn't have the backlog of work with a Jan 1 deadline...have fun. Don't have the time! Haven't had alc training since '04!
    Tell 'em the Optiflex Virtual Integrator bl0ws.
  48. Thread: Need training

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    Sounds like your company isn't really interested...

    Sounds like your company isn't really interested in control work. If you are, then you'll need a new a job. You should have no problem finding control work with 15 years of mechanical experience....
  49. All that is including with the install. As said,...

    All that is including with the install. As said, use the help menu's.
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    All the devices under the LGR are bacnet, try to...

    All the devices under the LGR are bacnet, try to do a network discover at WebCTRL. If WebCTRL can discover your thirdy party system and all it's devices. Your device should be able to do the same....
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