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To Whom Ever. In the mean time. You can get a little bit of help from reading, "Low Pressure Boilers'', a book. By Frederick M. Steingress & Daryl R. Walker ''HIGH PRESSURE BOILERS", another book. by Frederick M. Steingress & Harold J. Frost & Daryl R. Walker
Originally Posted by glennac Nice to see a fellow Nam vet on talk. Welcome home. I served in the 11th Armored Cav Regiment 17 months one wild trip till I was forced to go home Sept 70. Go ahead apply for pro membership. You're well qualified. Give me a shout at ********************. Yeah. Thanks for the Welcome Home Brother, and Welcome Home to You as Well.!! Take Care, B-B PS: I will drop you a gmail Msg. one day, and swap stories with you.
Originally Posted by big-bubba I Absolutely Agree with You That there is Political "CLICK" in the Work Place, Nothing New, Been Around Since Dirt. One Way to Fight it, is "Knowledge" and "Outstanding Work Reputation". Take Care, B-B Nice to see a fellow Nam vet on talk. Welcome home. I served in the 11th Armored Cav Regiment 17 months one wild trip till I was forced to go home Sept 70. Go ahead apply for pro membership. You're well qualified. Give me a shout at **************. Yeah. Forum rules do not allow you to put emails in your posts. They are only allowed in your profile. Thanks for your understanding.
Originally Posted by Bombardier R142 The easiest way to accomplish this is to get as far away as you possibly can from any large city that has such a profound love affair with steam and refr. licenses and go to work in a factory or food production plant that has such steam systems if you don't want to bother with waiting in line and freezing your ass off to pick up a union apprenticeship application and then having to return to the same union hall several times in vain. Once you learn a thing or two while you're away from the cities (including military service in any trades position if that's possible for you), then decide whether it makes sense to come back and give it another shot, but do not expect to come back anytime soon unless you can pass a fireman, oiler, or ConEd Mechanic B exam with flying colors. And I can probably write the book on what it takes to get any of the above jobs without taking a civil service exam, complete with details about who you have to dine with, which NYC neighborhood or suburb you have to live in, whose kids you have to babysit, what clothes you have to wear, what your favorite foods and alcoholic beverages have to be, what car/truck you have to drive, and what day of the week your wife has to go to the nail salon, all simply to please whoever it is that decides whether you get one of these jobs or not. I am so glad I left that city I Absolutely Agree with You That there is Political "CLICK" in the Work Place, Nothing New, Been Around Since Dirt. One Way to Fight it, is "Knowledge" and "Outstanding Work Reputation". Take Care, B-B
Also keep in mind a lot of the propulsion boilers went away and got replaced by diesel engines, such as those used in locomotives and backup generators. And no more Boiler Tenders, Firemen, Water Tenders, or Oilers except on certain ships (reactors I believe). Many positions were eliminated or combined with other positions. I don't think the typical Navy ship even uses boilers for heating anymore. Probably comes from the diesel engines by way of heat exchangers.
Originally Posted by Stud93 Thank you bud, I appreciate your comment. don't want to join the Navy right now. But if i did what job should i go for? Would the Coast Guard be a good option too? Your Very Welcome. When I got into this Business in the 70s, Most all of my fellow HVAC/R Mechanics and Boiler man were ex Navy Vets. Matter of fact, 2 of my brothers in law were Boiler Tenders, and Machinist Mates in the Navy during the Vietnam War. I was an Army Paratrooper, and we "Did Not Need No Stinking Steam" Lol.. I got my initial training in 2 Year College, and Pursued Stationary Engineer Jobs, where I could operate and repair both High and Low Pressure Boilers along with The HVAC/R and Every Other Mechanical Electrical Thing You can think of within a Commercial Building. ADVICE: "Boiler Operator" "Can Be" a Boring Monotonous Dirty Job in Itself,(been there done that), and I could not wait to Move on, so think about it. ALL THE BEST TO YOU !!!! B-B
I guess at that point go for the Air Force and request HVAC tech, electrician, plumber, something along those lines. Those are building workers. But they basically try to recruit more aircraft mechanics than any other job, so it would have to be either electrical/environmental mechanic or if you're a turbine engine mechanic it'll be similar to working on steam turbines and any heating or powerplant equipment that uses fuel oil (jet fuel is like fuel oil)
Hopefully the moderators allow all this because it could turn into a lengthy discussion about the military. The Navy is something you have to be careful with; being on a ship for months at a time before you make it to shore again is a real test of patience. The other branches of the military don't really deal with that
Originally Posted by Bombardier R142 Yes the CG is good. Be advised that at that point it also depends heavily on what jobs are available when you enlist. The recruiters always tell recruits that the needs of the military come first when they're trying to fill positions... Ok that I understand, however what job do I look for if I had a choice?
Originally Posted by Stud93 Thank you bud, I appreciate your comment. don't want to join the Navy right now. But if i did what job should i go for? Would the Coast Guard be a good option too? Yes the CG is good. Be advised that at that point it also depends heavily on what jobs are available when you enlist. The recruiters always tell recruits that the needs of the military come first when they're trying to fill positions...
Originally Posted by pecmsg Your saying "You need to know someone" Not TRUE! 100's of thousands of young up and coming's managed to get thru the process. Sorry you couldn't. Leaving and trying a back door is the wrong way! So why did so many people leave the city to join the military and then got fireman and oiler jobs once they got back? Any New Yorker with half a brain knows it's a better idea to leave for good and not bother coming back unless they know it's worthwhile. Yeah I may have exaggerated with the nepotism I mentioned but even assuming I'm totally wrong about all that stuff, the rest of this about leaving the city for good or at least taking a break from it is still the truth for those who aren't lucky enough to stay in the city like you suggest hoping to score an apprenticeship or fireman or oiler job several years later
Originally Posted by big-bubba Hello Stud93: I Would Suggest you Either find a 2 year HVAC/R School and Attend, OR, Join the Navy. Best of Luck! Thank you bud, I appreciate your comment. don't want to join the Navy right now. But if i did what job should i go for? Would the Coast Guard be a good option too?
Originally Posted by Bombardier R142 The easiest way to accomplish this is to get as far away as you possibly can from any large city that has such a profound love affair with steam and refr. licenses and go to work in a factory or food production plant that has such steam systems if you don't want to bother with waiting in line and freezing your ass off to pick up a union apprenticeship application and then having to return to the same union hall several times in vain. Once you learn a thing or two while you're away from the cities (including military service in any trades position if that's possible for you), then decide whether it makes sense to come back and give it another shot, but do not expect to come back anytime soon unless you can pass a fireman, oiler, or ConEd Mechanic B exam with flying colors. And I can probably write the book on what it takes to get any of the above jobs without taking a civil service exam, complete with details about who you have to dine with, which NYC neighborhood or suburb you have to live in, whose kids you have to babysit, what clothes you have to wear, what your favorite foods and alcoholic beverages have to be, what car/truck you have to drive, and what day of the week your wife has to go to the nail salon, all simply to please whoever it is that decides whether you get one of these jobs or not. I am so glad I left that city Thank you for taking the time to help me! i was begging to think this thread was inactive. if your willing to write, I'm willing to read.
Thank you so much for responding! I thought this thread was inactive. If your willing to write the book on this topic I'm more then willing to read.
Originally Posted by Bombardier R142 What does the union have to do with NOEs published by the city. Your saying "You need to know someone" Not TRUE! 100's of thousands of young up and coming's managed to get thru the process. Sorry you couldn't. Leaving and trying a back door is the wrong way!
What does the union have to do with NOEs published by the city.
Originally Posted by Bombardier R142 pecmsg- Yes, that was separate from the rest of it and I should have paid more attention to how you wrote that. Touché. Although the notices of examination for those titles are still worth nothing more than toilet paper for making someone think that three years of mechanical experience is enough to qualify. Maybe you should rewrite the NOEs and specify: "Didn't put in your time? Don't bother applying until you have" Stop the Union Bashing!
pecmsg- Yes, that was separate from the rest of it and I should have paid more attention to how you wrote that. Touché. Although the notices of examination for those titles are still worth nothing more than toilet paper for making someone think that three years of mechanical experience is enough to qualify. Maybe you should rewrite the NOEs and specify: "Didn't put in your time? Don't bother applying until you have"
Originally Posted by big-bubba Hello Stud93: I Would Suggest you Either find a 2 year HVAC/R School and Attend, OR, Join the Navy. Best of Luck! FDNY still accepts the time served!
Originally Posted by Stud93 First I would like to apologies if this post is inappropriate. I am new to the site and mean no disrespect. I would like to change careers and get into the High Pressure Tender/ Oiler/ Fireman/ Stationary Engineering trade. I'm currently in NY, so I tried applying to my local Stationary union but didnt make it past the entry exam. I've been trying to find ways to get my foot in the door but information is hard to come back. So if anyone would be so kind and possible inform me on any school's or certificate, or any piece of information that might help me find my way into the trade, or a trade similar I would greatly appreciate it! Thank you so much for taking the time to read my post and I would like to apologies again if this is an inappropriate post. Hello Stud93: I Would Suggest you Either find a 2 year HVAC/R School and Attend, OR, Join the Navy. Best of Luck!
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