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  • 08-29-2019, 04:55 PM
    Andrew Schaefer
    Thanks for the share. Great read!
  • 08-28-2019, 10:29 AM
    TechmanTerry
    Quote Originally Posted by IronArcher View Post
    Exactly. Most of my belts are running 4-7 years+...save for a few timing belts that I think they specked out too small)
    I'll concede to that!
  • 08-28-2019, 09:29 AM
    timebuilder
    Quote Originally Posted by IronArcher View Post
    In general, I'll replace sheaves maybe every 5th belt change....sometimes not even then. I'll put a guage on it and make the call, well, I'll put a guage on it if I feel wear with a finger, and use the guage to see how much wear there is.
    Better than OK alignment (normally use a Laser/reflector), and belt tension makes them last a lot longer

    PLEASE do not post in 2 year old threads.

    Thank you.
  • 08-27-2019, 11:12 PM
    IronArcher
    Quote Originally Posted by jayguy View Post
    i have seen sheaves ruined after 1 belt change. but if you are aligning and tensioning properly, then after 5 belt changes, that may be about right. of course, that is assuming that you aren't changing the belt every year...only when the belt is worn out. which could be 5 years or more between belt changes.
    Exactly. Most of my belts are running 4-7 years+...save for a few timing belts that I think they specked out too small)
  • 08-27-2019, 09:59 PM
    jayguy
    Quote Originally Posted by TechmanTerry View Post
    I find that awful hard to believe that a pulley gets that damaged that it "needs" to be replaced after just 5 belt changes.
    i have seen sheaves ruined after 1 belt change. but if you are aligning and tensioning properly, then after 5 belt changes, that may be about right. of course, that is assuming that you aren't changing the belt every year...only when the belt is worn out. which could be 5 years or more between belt changes.
  • 08-27-2019, 09:04 PM
    TechmanTerry
    Quote Originally Posted by IronArcher View Post
    In general, I'll replace sheaves maybe every 5th belt change....sometimes not even then. I'll put a guage on it and make the call, well, I'll put a guage on it if I feel wear with a finger, and use the guage to see how much wear there is.
    Better than OK alignment (normally use a Laser/reflector), and belt tension makes them last a lot longer
    I find that awful hard to believe that a pulley gets that damaged that it "needs" to be replaced after just 5 belt changes.
  • 08-27-2019, 08:37 PM
    servicefitter
    You want to double or triple belt life and years on pullies. VFD and if the manufacturer of equipment would design the drive system not at the motor hp but 25% bigger. And all drive designs look at pulley diameters, center to center and belt speed. If you leave a paper tag with a wire tied to the motor with when the belts were changed wouldn't make someones life easier.
  • 08-27-2019, 08:15 PM
    TechmanTerry
    At a Browning belt/pulley/sheave class we were told that 1 turn of the drive pulley changes the CFM by 5%.

    Norm Christopherson has 2 articles on belts that I know of.
    1- Belt Length Changes, along w/ formulas.
    2-Arc of Contact & Avoiding Slippage.

    Both a Good Read!
  • 08-27-2019, 06:02 PM
    IronArcher
    In general, I'll replace sheaves maybe every 5th belt change....sometimes not even then. I'll put a guage on it and make the call, well, I'll put a guage on it if I feel wear with a finger, and use the guage to see how much wear there is.
    Better than OK alignment (normally use a Laser/reflector), and belt tension makes them last a lot longer
  • 06-18-2017, 03:07 PM
    Nessy
    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    The truth is, it depends on the client.

    I have one site where I made an initial PM inspection and wrote up all 15 belts and pulleys.

    A year later, they approved half of them.

    So, if I know that the customer will act, I act. If the customer will ignore, I go on to the next unit.
    I have run into this on most of our regular customers over the past couple years. I can talk about it until I'm blue in the face, but nothing gets done until something breaks. There has been a shift for whatever reason in the maintenance spending with a lot of companies. I now mention it at the beginning of each fiscal year, and that's about it unless something breaks.
  • 06-13-2017, 10:07 PM
    Davedr
    Aligning and dialing out the sheaves is a must in my PM's.
  • 06-09-2017, 07:02 AM
    pecmsg
    Quote Originally Posted by Capt Wolf View Post
    Good read on the Browning site.

    "Can you explain why worn sheaves (v-belt pulleys) contribute to energy efficiency loss?"

    I think all of us need to read this, short read. I'm replacing a few VP pulleys now and finding out that I should have started earlier on some of them!!
    .
  • 06-08-2017, 02:41 PM
    Capt Wolf
    American or China...
    I need to look into who makes the ones I use.
  • 06-06-2017, 08:08 PM
    buford
    Pulley quality matters also, it seems the make up of cast iron varies alot between brands.
  • 06-06-2017, 10:26 AM
    Brian8383
    Quote Originally Posted by timmy2734 View Post
    Just curious, what makes you say that?
    Years of experience with every brand of belt.

    Optibelts are far superior to Browning.

    We switched to Browning from Optibelts a few years ago when Johnstone gave us an amazing deal. Our boss fell for the sales pitch from the browning sales rep. They really weren't even close to the quality of Optibelts.
  • 06-06-2017, 09:56 AM
    timmy2734
    Yep. Just curious what issues he's had with Browning belts.
  • 06-06-2017, 09:10 AM
    Capt Wolf
    timmy2734 are you talking about what Brian8383 posted?
  • 06-06-2017, 08:25 AM
    timmy2734
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian8383 View Post
    First bit of advice:

    Don't use browning belts.

    Use Optibelts as a first choice and Gates as a second. Everyone else is a distant third.
    Just curious, what makes you say that?
  • 06-06-2017, 07:27 AM
    Capt Wolf
    I did not know Browning made belts!

    Gates are the only ones I use here. It's the pulleys I was posting about. And Browning's website has a good post we all should read. Browning's must read... "Can you explain why worn sheaves (v-belt pulleys) contribute to energy efficiency loss?".
  • 06-06-2017, 07:24 AM
    Capt Wolf
    Got to let them know it's cheap and will save them money in the short time and long term. We all need to let customers know, this little post on Browning site, "Can you explain why worn sheaves (v-belt pulleys) contribute to energy efficiency loss?" is a must read!!

    I'm in-house, at one location, so I don't have customers to deal with, but all the same, I do take care of hundreds of workers in one day x 5!!
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