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Old 07-27-2010, 11:05 AM
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YK motor grease

What kind of grease are you guys using? The book calls for Texaco premium RB 1939, I'm having a hard time finding that here locally. Anyone know where I can purchase that perticular grease or know of an exceptable cross to another brand?
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Old 07-27-2010, 02:34 PM
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Any polyurea based grease. We use Chevron SRI 2. Good stuff.
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Old 07-27-2010, 05:23 PM
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Yes or Unirex, both are hard to find. Just got a case of Chevron SRI cause that was minimum order.
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Old 07-27-2010, 05:26 PM
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Thanks for the replies, I'll have to look into the Chevron.
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Old 07-27-2010, 05:45 PM
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Mobil polyrex EM.

available at grainger.
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Old 07-27-2010, 05:48 PM
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Texaco Premium RB is not polyurea based. It's lithium. Polyrex and SRI are both polyurea. Don't mix them. Unirex is lithium. Any good lithium base NLGI2 grease will do, but the RB has better results in my opinion. There is a noticeable difference in it's consistency and the others. Or, pull the bearings, clean them and reinstall using Polyrex EM (if you're feeling ambitious).
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Old 07-27-2010, 07:00 PM
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Here is the red letter also take note of the motor size hp the grease will be different.
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Old 07-27-2010, 07:16 PM
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If you have any of those Reliance motors that require the Texaco RB under your belt you would be wise to follow the manufacturers guidance, especially if they are under warranty.
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Old 07-27-2010, 07:28 PM
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Thanks Klove and 56'. After reading the SB it looks as if it could be either grease depending on the motor. I'll check the motors before I purchase anything.
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Old 07-29-2010, 02:11 PM
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Ok guys, yet another question about this. I checked the chillers in question and they are equiped with 306 h.p 447TDZ frame motors, York p/n 024-26513-459, nowhere on the motors could I see who they are actually manufactured by. The SB that 56' was nice enough to post states this:

Nearly all York YK, YT, and YS chiller motors utilize polyurea-based bearing grease, such as Chevron SRI #2, or
Exxon Polyrex EM. One exception is chillers above 790 HP with Reliance Q5808 and Q5810 frame motors.
Reliance Q-frame motors require a lithium-based grease, such as Texaco Premium RB, as indicated on the motor
itself, and detailed in a February 1998 Service Bulletin, 160.48-N1 (SB1).

So it sounds like my bearings should require polyurea based grease, unless there are other exceptions???
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Old 07-29-2010, 02:37 PM
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Use Polyrex EM if it's polyurea based. The issue is that you said "the book says to use.....".
What book are you talking about? What has been used to date? What color and consistency is the grease in the bearings now? When were the chillers installed? What are the model #'s?
Are the motors more square than round (Ram mfrd)?
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Old 07-29-2010, 03:40 PM
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Klove,

These chillers around '02 or '03 vintage. M# YKCDDDG44-CME, the book I was referring to is the O&M for these E style machines. Unfortunatly I'm not sure what has been used prior to this as we just took over the contract, which is why I began looking into this. The previous contractor kept everything pretty clean so I can't see any visual sign of what kind of grease they used. Next time I'm onsite I try pulling the relief plugs and see if I can tell anything. Oh and yes the motors look more square than round, square on the sides, round at the bearing ends. Thanks for the response.
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Old 07-29-2010, 04:51 PM
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The Texaco RB was only used in the large frame Reliance motors, what you have sounds like the Ram motor in which Polyrex EM is the lubricant of choice. Get a little out of the bearing relief cavity. If green - Texaco, if blue - Polyrex.
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