Trane LON controls - Tridium Enterprise system?

[freddy-b]

Originally Posted by rbricker

You already replied to the email I sent you, and said you were forwarding it to your Business Manager, Susan.

I did. Yes.

[tk2k]

Does anyone know if any wizards exist that would allow programming from the Tridium interface?

I suspect the answer is no, and the only option is to use Rover.

There are no Trane wizards that I know of. With the AX software, you should be able to access the config parameters of the devices.

[lontshooter]

rbricker,

The first item is that the Trane controllers are Lon based, but need to be setup with Trane Rover or Tracer to make them function, they can be done thru a Lon Management Software i.e. Lonmaker as long as you have the plugin for the controllers, or you need to make changes in the browser function. The plugin is property of Trane and they don't release them to the general public that often, you can get the XIF file for the device.
Second item is that if your are looking for an Enterprise solution to integrate 100 buildigns togehter this Jene is not going to handle that many controllers, the one that they say they are using is undersized for the number of controllers that will be installed.
Thrid item is that this device is factory commissioned and you may not be able to change setting in the device.

Check this link.
http://www.lonmark.org/products/prod...?ProductID=244

Lontshooter

[amigo]

Originally Posted by lontshooter

rbricker,

The first item is that the Trane controllers are Lon based, but need to be setup with Trane Rover or Tracer to make them function, they can be done thru a Lon Management Software i.e. Lonmaker as long as you have the plugin for the controllers, or you need to make changes in the browser function. The plugin is property of Trane and they don't release them to the general public that often, you can get the XIF file for the device.
Second item is that if your are looking for an Enterprise solution to integrate 100 buildigns togehter this Jene is not going to handle that many controllers, the one that they say they are using is undersized for the number of controllers that will be installed.
Thrid item is that this device is factory commissioned and you may not be able to change setting in the device.

Check this link.
http://www.lonmark.org/products/prod...?ProductID=244

Lontshooter

looks like you can download some of their plugins from here:
http://trane.com/Commercial/DesignAn...ter.aspx?i=909

Although,I have not tried it.

[willf650]

Originally Posted by lontshooter

rbricker,

The first item is that the Trane controllers are Lon based, but need to be setup with Trane Rover or Tracer to make them function, they can be done thru a Lon Management Software i.e. Lonmaker as long as you have the plugin for the controllers, or you need to make changes in the browser function. The plugin is property of Trane and they don't release them to the general public that often, you can get the XIF file for the device.
Second item is that if your are looking for an Enterprise solution to integrate 100 buildigns togehter this Jene is not going to handle that many controllers, the one that they say they are using is undersized for the number of controllers that will be installed.
Thrid item is that this device is factory commissioned and you may not be able to change setting in the device.

Check this link.
http://www.lonmark.org/products/prod...?ProductID=244

Lontshooter

You have a little misinformation here.

The Trane LNS plugins are freely available to the public and always have been since their development. There would be a gap for the 580 controllers. There is no AX wizzard available. From the description of this project the overwhelming majority of these controllers will be ready to rock and roll without being touched with any software. Heatpumps are set up from the factory as are anything that comes in a piece of equipment minus the 580s. If they don't like the fact of the 580 they should ask for a different programable for the facility.

This could be an enterprise level solution but it does not consist of the controllers. It would consist of the workstation/supervisor software and this facility should seamlessly integrate to any web supervisor on the enterprise level. Although I would think the enterprise level integration of sites would be a seprate project.

You should be able to change any settings in these devices as freely as any other product. More so than some.

[rbricker]

Originally Posted by willf650

You have a little misinformation here.

The Trane LNS plugins are freely available to the public and always have been since their development. There would be a gap for the 580 controllers. There is no AX wizzard available. From the description of this project the overwhelming majority of these controllers will be ready to rock and roll without being touched with any software. Heatpumps are set up from the factory as are anything that comes in a piece of equipment minus the 580s. If they don't like the fact of the 580 they should ask for a different programable for the facility.

This could be an enterprise level solution but it does not consist of the controllers. It would consist of the workstation/supervisor software and this facility should seamlessly integrate to any web supervisor on the enterprise level. Although I would think the enterprise level integration of sites would be a separate project.

You should be able to change any settings in these devices as freely as any other product. More so than some.

I expect the enterprise integration to be a separate project. I am just trying to get a system that is as compatible as possible with our planned enterprise system. The job originally specified ONLY proprietary ALC controls integrated to an existing WebCTRL server. I didn't think that was what we wanted for an enterprise solution and made a last minute change to allow a tridium system as an alternative option. So far I think we made the right choice.

I am, in fact, considering an option of trying to get a separate contractor to handle the tridium integration to the Trane system on this job, if the present contractor isn't able to provide adequate Tridium products and integration.

[sysint]

Regarding Tridium wizards, from my understanding only Honeywell wizards can be launched in the Tridium box. Otherwise wizards are launched from a PC containing the work bench software. So, if Trane config software is available on the PC that has a copy of workbench the devices can be configured and then imported into the Tridium system.

The other option is maintain a LNS DB but for Tridium that can be a little more messy. However, Trane has LNS Plugins available. And, I do have to say when they first they had LNS plugins, they were not freely available. Since then they have added them to the website.

I think if you have made a decision for LON and Tridium it is more important and stick to all LON products if possible.