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There is no better forum than this one and its because of the rules.
Not a lot of un qualified idiots putting out bad info.
And the pro forums are awesome if you need help or advice from actual VETTED pro's
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Looking for a different HVAC forum to join because I am getting sick of the police moderators on this site, Last night I accidentally posted a response in the " pros" only forum and got the police moderator saying that my posting was removed and posting privileges may be lost. That's fine.. I did post in wrong location and it is their website to kick me out. The funny thing is my posting was saying to a homeowner not to DIY ( was a electrical wiring question) and to seek professional help. This morning ( after the dual Moderator police deal ) I reposted in same place stating that even though I posted in the wrong spot, My advice hopefully convinced this homeowner not to DYI which may have lead him to DIE. No "pros" came to offer this same advice, but buddy, the moderator police sure came quick for me.
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There is no better forum than this one and its because of the rules.
Not a lot of un qualified idiots putting out bad info.
And the pro forums are awesome if you need help or advice from actual VETTED pro's
I wish I had a $1.00 for every response I deleted.....
"Decidedly Superior in a twisted pathetic way".....
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I was just on that thread and did post advice to the OP giving him some reasons why he shouldn't, and not that he could DIE.
MY advice to you is follow the rules, get your post count up, your almost there and apply for pro status. I think if you do that you will come to love this site like most do on here. There are a lot of good people on this site and even more knowledge floating around. Don't let 1 bad post taint your opinion of this site.
God Speed, Jim. We'll miss you - 2-26-23
Lots and lots of good stuff in the Pro tech forums.Originally Posted by kls-ccc
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I think I will walk into Olive Garden and ask them where the best Italian food is because I did not like being carded when I tried to buy alcohol.
The Food Stamp Program, administered by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, is proud to be distributing the greatest amount of free meals and stamps EVER.
Meanwhile, the National Park Service, administered by the U.S. Department of the Interior, asks us to "Please Do Not Feed the Animals". Their stated reason for this policy "... the animals become dependent on handouts and will not learn to take care of themselves."
from an excerpt by Paul Jacob in Sun City, AZ
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This place is loaded with persons who don't know the difference between administration and control.
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You could start your own forum...
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There's a couple more but this ones the best by far, the others just b*tch and moan about the rules here
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Best of luck with that.
Anyone can START a forum. What reason does the new site offer for posters to leave this site and come there? Quality of posters? Nah. This site has that in spades. More content? Nope. Manufacturer's reps? Got more of 'em here than anywhere else.
So, the only reasons I can see for a member leaving this site and going elsewhere are:
> Getting one's knickers in a twist because they didn't bother to read or to follow the site rules. This is easily preventable by reading and following fairly simple rules.
> Getting one's nose bent out of shape because they had a disagreement with another member. This frequently happens in ARP. Avoiding ARP unless you're a thick-skinned, insensitive lout like myself if the best way to prevent this from happening.
Unless you're gonna PAY me to offer advice on my own time on another website, I'll stay here.
God Speed, Jim. We'll miss you - 2-26-23
And have no rules, so no one gets angry because they have to follow rules.
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Why not just go to you tube, don't think there are a lot of rules, no one seems to care if the advice there is correct or even safe to do.
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Why don't you just become a pro member?
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Never mind. I see you got banned.
God Speed, Jim. We'll miss you - 2-26-23
Its just a suspension. 9 days left on it.
He would have to become a Pro member, and then after accepted, apply to be vetted and receive his * to post in the AOP forums.
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Lol
AOP Committee/Professional Member*
Okay, how about some quick history.
We all thought long and hard about the AOP forum, and how it would have limits, and how those limits would be implemented. There were a number of pros and cons, but what we came up with has worked well so far.
A few of us agreed that we would keep an eye on it, so that it remained within the boundaries we had finally agreed upon.
I'm sure you are not the first poster to feel a little uncomfortable, but once you are off suspension, read through the links that several of us have at the bottom of all our posts, and do some reading in the AOP to get a feel of what is done, and how.
Then, use the links to apply for the Pro level of membership, and the * mark after "Professional Member" that shows you were vetted for the AOP. Pro member first, then the * after that.
As a Pro member, you will also have access to our extensive Educational Forums, which has a lot of good info in it. I know the guy who wrote some of it.
The dust will settle and you will find that this is a great place to be a better tech and owner too, and a better informed consumer.
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2 Tim 3:16-17
RSES CMS, HVAC Electrical Specialist
Member, IAEI
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I made a similar mistake and that's all it was , a mistake , except I posted on the AOP like 5 times in one day , and the moderators were understanding about the situation . I didn't read the "rules" as well as I should have and all was forgiven ( I hope , lol ) but its really just a standardized response that everyone and anyone would get and not a personal attack , just saying
God Speed, Jim. We'll miss you - 2-26-23
Okay. Here is how it works. You get caught posting in the AOP forums without your *. We notify your elementary, middle, and high school. And they put a permanent mark on your record. LOL
JP and I are the ones that give and track the warnings. We simply enforce the rules. We use canned warnings, so its copy and paste. We don't make it personal.
AOP Committee/Professional Member*
Oh, NO!
Not the permanent record!!!!!!
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2 Tim 3:16-17
RSES CMS, HVAC Electrical Specialist
Member, IAEI
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The policing is ok.
What some of us have a problem with is the unwarranted restrictions and revocation of certain accesses and/or posts in certain areas. Even when the moderators and site developers know damn well who these people are. I personally know 20 long time members of this forum (10+ years), who have been treated like garbage due to a lack of discretion on the moderators part, I'm just saying.
This site could be much better if it was like it was in the old days. Open-minded discussion with a little free speech. I miss those days.
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