But California is chasing away all of our industry with CARB and the highest taxes in our country. Interesting perspective and I too understand your points.
But California is chasing away all of our industry with CARB and the highest taxes in our country. Interesting perspective and I too understand your points.
Gonna go out on a limb and say it was some retired engineer turned politician's pet project gone viral, it always is....
Ever notice that PG&E's energy rebate programs always follow the current environmental issue du jour and have a limited shelf life?
Think about it...
When I put solar on my dads house and he got his first utility bill the first thing he did was turn down the temperature on the AC...
Smoke and mirrors, I have been in California all of my life and work in the heart of Silicon Valley, this is where most of the environmental craziness starts...
Done any boiler retrofits for air quality yet? When you retro a natural draft boiler to the new assisted low NOX kits, the efficiency drops by up to sometime 15%...Yeah, that's a step in the right direction....
OP, Sorry for the rant, I will start my own thread to continue the pissing contest...
If a day goes by and you have learned nothing, I hope you got a lot of sleep.
70%....You pulling this number out of your, well you know...
GT
Didn't you know? 88% of all statistics are made up on the spot!
As was said before, to each his own. I like analog gauges and manifolds with 3 hoses and two valves. I do use a digital thermometer as it is easier to access what I am trying to measure, and it is fast.
I also do check SH and SC on every system. I do get wet bulb with a sling psycrometer, though. *whirls*
I appreciate what you are saying, but a $400 manifold set does not make better technicians, not by a long shot, what it will do is prevent them from doing it the "hard way" and handicapping them for their entire career...
Because good tools cause bad techs. Do not get gear wrenches they are to time effiecent and easy.
I just think its funny when you guys say digital gauges are for dummies or I'm not ever getting those cause I can do math. Your totally missing the point. I'll put this down as a lost cause.
It'll be a tablet talking to the equipment which will show current pressures, and a graph of pressures for the last week so you can see when/what events occurred.
Because good tools cause bad techs. Do not get gear wrenches they are to time effiecent and easy.
I just think its funny when you guys say digital gauges are for dummies or I'm not ever getting those cause I can do math. Your totally missing the point. I'll put this down as a lost cause.
Nice install btw
I like the platform.
Never said anything of the sort. What I did say was these tools do not make better technicians... Also never said they were for dummies, I said the trade was making dummies....
I just find them completely unnecessary for the type of work I do, there is not one thing you can do with a digi manifold that I can not do with analog gages and a thermometer, I like to see the gage flutter on multiple cylinder open drives and like to be able to hook a single gauge on a liquid line when it is 30' from the nearest suction line... Make a wireless transducer and I would be on that stuff like polyester on a used car salesman...
If your gonna quote somebody, I recommend you check your digital manifold set and get all the facts in order..........
GT
If a day goes by and you have learned nothing, I hope you got a lot of sleep.
Never said anything of the sort. What I did say was these tools do not make better technicians... Also never said they were for dummies, I said the trade was making dummies....
If your gonna quote somebody, I recommend you check your digital manifold set and get all the facts in order..........
GT
Originally Posted by GT Jets
I appreciate what you are saying, but a $400 manifold set does not make better technicians, not by a long shot, what it will do is prevent them from doing it the "hard way" and handicapping them for their entire career..
He knows now. He also knows how to use a thermometer, a PT chart, a sling psychrometer and an analog gauge... I told him to get digital tools when he learns these very reliable pieces of non technology.
You did say good tools like a digital gauge will handicap techs for there entire career.
Ten four. I understand what your saying. Sorry if I came off kinda hostile.
I thought I was gonna have to break out a fresh can of Whupass....
It's all good bro.
Learned a long time ago to never take anything on the net seriously... I belong to about 6 different forums and once and a while you just gotta call someone out...
GT
If a day goes by and you have learned nothing, I hope you got a lot of sleep.
A 3-2-3 gauge set is not as accurate as a 1% gauge set, and a 1% gauge set is not as accurate as a digital gauge set. The way I convinced myself to purchase my digital manifold was by comparing accuracy, efficiency, reliability, and validity. Those are the very same qualifications that any engineer will live and die on when testing ANYTHING. Digital gauges are more accurate, MUCH more efficient, more reliable over the long haul, and are capable of making valid measurements on any and all refrigerant types.
The only reason a person would be AGAINST digital gauges is that they are either intimidated by them or simply have not seen the benefits of using them. That said, my old man won't ever use them. He sees their usefulness on a near daily basis, but he's too old fashion to let go of his antiquated tools of yesteryear.
Funny enough, he was also pretty reluctant to get his first cell phone. Hmm, funny how new, functional technology seems to always eradicate old, functional technology. After all, Henry Ford's Model-T probably wasn't popular to everybody. Now days, you'd have to take a trip to Lancaster Co., PA to see pre-automobile living!!
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Originally Posted by JKopp
You do need a set of SMAN3 so you can properly charge it.
Sman3 so far are crap for us, i was hopeful after the torture of Testo 560 ending in a full refund.
Both of the cheapie handles stripped out, the dumb clip on thermocouples broke from bumping around under the soft case. Bought a hard case for $40 bucks and now have an internal leak on the suction gauge, you can hear it hiss under 300 lbs of nitrogen. This leak caused me to just about loose my mind working on a Stoelting ice cream machine. Where's the "F" in leak already!? Oh, on my $400 gauge set.
My brother's set which he put off buying until a year after mine, smart since the Testo cluster (blank) incident. His set is also no in for repair as they register 220 psi on both gauges no matter what the refrigerant. oh, his handle also broke.
I used $10 J+B replacements which work perfectly, my brother is a bit old school this is what he used. The high side hose is off because he was installing a mini split.
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Originally Posted by JKopp
I belong to about 6 different forums and once and a while you just gotta call someone out...
