I have one that has 404a. This one is about 12 years old.
Delfield reach in freezer. No data tag. Wondering what kind of refrigerant used to be in it. It has an AEV that is pinkish orange. R12 or 502? I have some pics
Copeland M# KAGB-005A-IAA-800 S# 00C75731
Valve has CRO-4- 0/50 on it.
I have one that has 404a. This one is about 12 years old.
All delfield's i have seen are 404a and orange means 404a, R12 was yellow.
The KAGB-005A-IAA is a service replacement compressor designed for R502 or its various interim replacement refrigerants like HP80 or R408A.
The "A" in the model number of the compressor indicates it has (had) alkylbenzene oil in it, which would indicate that this box was originally designed for R502.
The old R502 valves had purple on the powerhead.
The entire valve is the same color. Doesnt really have a powerhead on it.
404
One thing that was still legible was a tag on top of the box right near the compressor. It was like a key for which refrigerant the compressor used according to the 4th number on the compressor model. a = x reefer....b = x reefer, so on and so on.
If the key was correct the compressor used to use 12 or 502
I have seen where other companies came and changed things to use different Refrigerant.
For sure. Ive seen it alot. Just dont know what to go with. The compressor tag says ABO oil. Is that compatible with 404? I know the guy who used to work on it and he does nothing right. It appears to be leaking at the oil level sight glass. Im not experienced with semi hermetic. How is the sight glass sealed? If I change the oil how far up on the sight glass do I fill?
I would talk with some of the guys at the supply houses on this one, just to get it right the first time, Or call the manufacture just to be safe. thats what i do if I aint 100% sure.
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The Valve sounds like the crankcase pressure regulator valve, not an AEV.
I missed it in the first post, but that "TXV"...(Sporlan CRO-4), is being used as an AXV...or automatic expansion valve. It's not a thermostatic valve and so it has no powerhead nor does it care what refrigerant is in there. It's just a pressure regulator.
The compressor model says it has AB oil....which is not good with R404A. I'd go with R502 or one of it's replacements. If you want to use R404A, change the oil to POE.
BTW... the "CRO" means it's a Close on Rise of Outlet regulating valve.
A CRO is piped on the outlet of the evap and a metering device would be piped on the inlet side of the evap (for quick check if not sure of what you have). In the pic it looks like you have a cap tube (unless that is your tstat). Seems a little strange to think a cap tube would be sized to overload a compressor on a warm coil but what do I know.
The ABO label would make me say R502. On older stuff I kinda like to avoid POE so I'd use R408a.
Old compressors used a gasket on the sight glass and they can be a bear to get out. Tough enough that you might need to turn the compressor over, remove bottom plate, and punch the glass out from the inside. If it used an o-ring only thing you will need is a drag link socket (like a bit screwdriver bit).
Yeah, i worked on a couple of those before and they did have captube feeds and a crankcase regulator. They were all dual feeds. This one appears to be single feed. I would tell the customer to junk it!!!Time to get into the 21st century! But, don't be surprised when the owner buys another old used relic from auction and needs you to fix it and it's the exact same thing only r-12 instead of 502. True story!!!
Thx everyone.
The color of that valve is just the paint they used, does'nt mean anything.
Bob