Home Inspectors - HVAC-Talk: Heating, Air & Refrigeration Discussion

hearthman · #1 05-05-2007, 06:59 PM

If you look on the Pro Technical site under the thread about undersized gas lines, you'll see a rant by jmac and others absolutely blasting home inspectors and the work they do. I invite everyone to comment here in public where they can't hide from the public. Let's here what you have to say. Air out all that dirty laundry. Just realize this: any one of those guys could tie you up for an afternoon showing you pics of HVAC work that was faulty/ failed/ dangerous. They do a good job by & large of not generalizing about all HVAC techs being idiots and try to keep it professional. I cannot say that about the discussion here so far. Can you be objective and see where they provide a valuable service to the homeowners and send referral business to you guys?

The floor is yours.
Hearthman

Mr Bill · #2 05-05-2007, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by hearthman

If you look on the Pro Technical site under the thread about undersized gas lines, you'll see a rant by jmac and others absolutely blasting home inspectors and the work they do.
The floor is yours.
Hearthman

Hey Home Inspectors generate me work and I have had a couple of disagreements
with them no big deals but all in all they actually help our bottom line.

renaissanse man · #3 05-05-2007, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hearthman

If you look on the Pro Technical site under the thread about undersized gas lines, you'll see a rant by jmac and others absolutely blasting home inspectors and the work they do. I invite everyone to comment here in public where they can't hide from the public. Let's here what you have to say. Air out all that dirty laundry. Just realize this: any one of those guys could tie you up for an afternoon showing you pics of HVAC work that was faulty/ failed/ dangerous. They do a good job by & large of not generalizing about all HVAC techs being idiots and try to keep it professional. I cannot say that about the discussion here so far. Can you be objective and see where they provide a valuable service to the homeowners and send referral business to you guys?

The floor is yours.
Hearthman

Tell us what you really think.

The Penguin · #4 05-05-2007, 07:18 PM

this will depend upon what you need

As a home owner I think most inspectors are not worth the paper their reports are written on. Further more their reports are worthless.

If they miss anything they apprantly are not liable in any way - its in the fine print.

I would never waste my time and money on a home inspector.

from an uninformed home owner view point a GOOD home inspector could save them the heart ache of buying a ppty in geat need of cash to fix up.
The reality is that most home owners get a worthless home inspector

the trouble is that most home owners won't know they got a good or bad inspector untill its too late

James 3528 · #5 05-05-2007, 07:19 PM

Leave Pro Tech business in the Pro Tech Area. Don't drag it into another forum. It would be considered "Professional" of you to do that.

Mr Bill · #6 05-05-2007, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Penguin

If they miss anything they apparently are not liable in any way - its in the fine print.

I don't think that applies in Texas I think they do have some liability now.

selfemployed · #7 05-05-2007, 07:48 PM

It took me a few times and some thinking not to become agitated when reading those reports. But considering they walk in the house, called no one to ask questions about anything they observed. Advised the buyer of things that need to be checked by a qualified person so they won't be sured for leaving something out. I better understand why there is nothing good on the reports. The people are paying to be told if there may be something thats a health / safety or other concern observed. Most of the problems arise out of some of their observation which cause concern by the buyer because they don't understand changes in code, when built and current construction. Home Inspectors may not recommend corrective action or how something should be fixed if needed. Thats the licensed contractors job when called.

jmac00 · #8 05-05-2007, 08:02 PM

uuut-oooh, this may not go as well as Harty may have thought

I think James may have a good point, this could get "upsetting" for some

James 3528 · #9 05-05-2007, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jmac00

uuut-oooh, this may not go as well as Harty may have thought

I think James may have a good point, this could get "upsetting" for some

My point was very good. The committee that certifies people for that area has been know to remove people from if for demonstrating they probably should not have been in there in the first place. (Hey, we make mistakes.) That area is locked down for a reason and this one isn't. I don't have thread locking abilities or I would lock this one or move it to that area where you kids could bash each others brains out cause I like reading a good dressing down every now and then .

rogerk · #10 05-05-2007, 08:44 PM

The H.I. that looked over my house before I bought it was a joke. He failed to tell me that the dryer vent was 100% clogged. Im his report it said it was clear. I had silverfish in the attic, alot of silverfish. He left that out. Termites under the master bath tub which had a leak where the copper went into the slab. He left that out. Hall bath had 3 leaks in the shower copper water lines. He left that out. I basically paid him $300.00 to stand in the kitchen and lie to me and say that he found nothing wrong with the house.

BigJon3475 · #11 05-05-2007, 08:50 PM

If there weren't inspectors you would have hacks as the normal at least there is some fail safe even if they aren't as qualified sometimes as they should be or are stuck on one code that they happen to remember.

jmac00 · #12 05-05-2007, 08:53 PM

ooooh my, this may get ugly

James is correct <gag, choke> I think I'll leave this thread alone, nothing good could come from this.

addios

dec · #13 05-05-2007, 08:58 PM

Boy, I dont even like giving my opinion on that subject much. I cant say I dont make money off home inspectors but I just cant understand where they get all the ideas that ........ If I have good enough forms and word it right , I have no responsability and they cant come after me.

Ok so you should not be responsable for whats wrong with the house. As far as pointing out all the things out that are wrong ........ well yes I think you should be responsible to a point.

I am just amazed when I go out and look at some of the heating systems for inspectors that have give my name to the perspective buyers. Now most of the time my deal is with the perspective buyer , not the inspector. I give a complete report of anything I see that is out wack with the system. Usally I am sent out for some little stuff the inspector says are just minor little things.

By the time you end up looking at it , its a furnace setting there covered in aspestos, no return ducting hooked to the furnace at all, every possible thing wrong with it. Ok so thats fine but when I tell the homeowner the results ......... they are wondering why the inspector said it was just minor stuff.

Just out of curiousity, if a homeowner gets charged $350 to $550 for a home inspection........ thats what some have told me they charge. What is the final cost to that homeowner pays by the time I give them a bill with an electrician, plumber, and who ever else is going to charge them too.

Does that homeowner realize that inspectors report is going to be filled with a bunch of items that says ...... you better have that looked at by someone that knows what they are talking about.

And why is pretty much every home inspector was a builder that has gone broke ?????? oh wait that was city bulding inspectors wasnt it ??? hummmm..... I dont there is much differance.

Like I said , I think I will kinda keep my opinion on home inspectors to myself ........ lol