New A/C system sounds like space ship landing
Just had installed a complete Lennox system with variable speed furnace(SL280V). The furnace is indeed much quieter than the dinosaur it replaced, but it seems that when it is running on the slow heat speed, there is a constant whine or "singing" sound from the motor. It seems to run most all the time, and when it does shut off, it sounds like a space ship engine winding down. This can be heard through the register in the master bedroom and I find it aggravating me when trying to sleep. When the motor is spinning down, I can also feel the frequency of the whine in the walls near the unit.
The old furnace had a kind of spongy board underneath it, but my installers said they don't usually use such a board. I am thinking I need some type of vibration absorbent material that the unit can rest on. Any thoughts?
sounds like harmonic noise from a return grille caused by higher air flo
spread the fins on the grille so as to change the angle they are on and may help
could also be a bearing in the motor that wasnt oiled at the factory and the motor needs replacing
call your installer back and have it looked at
tell him all your concerns about the unit and see what he comes up with
Thanks, yes two different techs from the installer have come by and listened to the furnace fan. They say that is how the new fan motors operate. The whine is definitely coming from the fan motor.
Originally Posted by tinknocker service tech
Thanks, the whine is coming from the fan motor, but I can hear it through the register in the master bedroom. The furnace/coil unit is sitting on a wood base in a closet in the middle of the house. What I'd like to do is isolate the furnace from the wood base it sits on, as well as from the nearby walls.
Originally Posted by DGIO-Not
The noise you mentioned is coming out of the supply grille in the master BR? How close is it in relation to the furnace closet. Looks like you have plenty of filtered return opening for 5 tons, so I don't think it is return velocity noise. You have second'ed that.
The whine you hear is the motor. I have a variable speed (ECM) motor in an A/H next to my office. It is also two speed, and when it is in low speed, it also has a whine. It's caused by the 'cogging' of a permanent magnet motor and is in its nature.
You might be able to 'tune' the harmonic you are experiencing out by making a slight adjustment in speed to the motor. Call your installing company, and see if they could make a small adjustment in speed to the motor. There is a small window to work with as it is also important that the motor is @ the right RPM as correct airflow is important for your system's efficiency and performance. But a small % either side of your harmonic just might remedy the situation.
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Keep the fire inside the fireplace.
I see several things wrong w/ install but it has nothing to do with the noise you hear.
On the install- the gas line where it passes through platform must be sealed. Base of filter box must be sealed to platform. Furnace must be sealed to filter box or EZ base.
I don't see a trap on that condensate drain from coil.
On the noise- may be a bad motor. Did you have ducts replaced?
The drain typically runs in a chase under the slab, then exits above grade creating the required trap. Typical install.
Originally Posted by precision hvac
Remove filter in base of unit and see if it goes away.
Thanks so much. That is very helpful info. I will get them to vary the speed a bit and try to mitigate the whine.
Originally Posted by thermojohn
Yes, I can hear the motor whine through the register in the master bedroom. Sounds just like it does elsewhere in the house.
Thanks, I already played around a bit with the filter. What happens is that if I pull the filter out about 5 or 6 inches, the fan will speed up dramatically. If I remove the filter completely the fan will speed up for a while, and then it slows down significantly. I am assuming it has some kind of air flow sensor that realizes that without the filter it can achieve the same air flow with less fan power.
Originally Posted by SBKold
I also replaced the pleated filter with a standard fiberglass type filter, which seemed to reduce the motor whine a bit, presumably again due to freer air flow.
I mentioned the filter because it should be a significant restriction causing your unit to struggle to move the proper amount of air.
Increasing or decreasing fan speed away from what it is optimal to run is not helping the system be as efficient as its SEER, AFUE, ratings.
You may have better, quieter results by redesigning that part of it.