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11-22-2011, 03:19 PM #1
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HVAC Certification Training Assistance
I have an opportunity for employment in an HVAC career.
I am trying to figure out exactly what I "need" and the most practical way to go about getting it.
I called the local Penn Co Tech and OUCH $20,000 +
I do know I need to make sure my certs include the new 410a
Suggestions on how I can begin this? Affordable Training? any resources links suggestions you can provide would be immensely helpful! if there is a thread that already has all this please include a url. If there is one thing I am good at its reading :-) (its an addiction)
I have no formal training or experience at all in this career path but it is inline with my capabilities otherwise (I have an aptitude for the technical side of things)
Went to school to become an AE before deciding its not what I wanted.
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11-22-2011, 03:40 PM #2
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What state do you live in?
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11-22-2011, 03:43 PM #3
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Pennsylvania - Edgeley between levittown and bristol.
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11-22-2011, 03:46 PM #4
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Look into your local union, you learn while you get paid. Originally Posted by nerys
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11-22-2011, 04:27 PM #5
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RSES has some good NATE books on their website for cheaper prices but Books and online training are no substitute for a classroom and on the job training.
Get your EPA 608 certification before doing any work.
EPA 608If you're too "open" minded, your brains will fall out.
Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.
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11-22-2011, 04:48 PM #6
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I found Orleans Tech (suggested by the potential employer) much much cheaper $11.5k all inclusive (all books materials etc..)
going to take the exam on monday.
24 week program. the 410a test is $80 and training will be in the program for this.
I assume this is different from 608. I will ask if the class material covers 608 and if I can also take that cert. from what I am reading I think I need both 608 II and 410a. is that correct?
what other questions should I ask ie what are the right questions that I need to know the answers too.
I have no doubt I can absorb the knowledge but I want to be sure its the RIGHT knowledge or I will be left with a $15k to $30k loan bill after interest and no way to pay for it :-)
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11-22-2011, 05:12 PM #7
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I wouldn't stop until you have EPA 608 universal(type I, II, and III). It really isn't that much harder to obtain. I would worry about EPA 608 before anything else, even 410a.
If you're too "open" minded, your brains will fall out.
Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.
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11-22-2011, 05:12 PM #8
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Why would you consider this route, when you can work for a company learn from on the job training and get paid. Originally Posted by nerys
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11-22-2011, 05:31 PM #9
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how do I "DO" that exactly? if I can do that I would definitely prefer that route.
so far all I have found require you to already have experience. I have zero. (but learn fast)
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11-22-2011, 08:30 PM #10
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Originally Posted by nerys
Look up the website for local 420 in philly, and do an apprenticeship program. You will never be sorry.[Avatar photo from a Florida training accident. Everyone walked away.]
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11-22-2011, 08:48 PM #11
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www.rses.org www.ua.org www.training.carrier.com www.rseselearning.org The UA website would be your best bet to sign up for an apprenticeship. The other three are affordable training. 1.Find your local union (timebuilder suggested local 420 in philly). 2. Go down there and meet with the business agent and see if you can get your name on the apprenticeship list. 3. When a Contractor needs an apprentice and your name is up to number 1 on the list they will call you and if all works out you get your start.
Challenge yourself, take the CM test --- Certificate Member since 2004 ---Join RSES ---the HVAC/R training authority ---www.rses.org
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11-23-2011, 07:21 AM #12
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These guys ?? http://lu420.org/
they appear to be a mech unit (welding brazing etc..) ie pipe work.
is there another 420?
also these unions will train people with ZERO experience ??
sorry for the potentially silly questions but I am a bit new at this :-)
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11-23-2011, 07:42 AM #13
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Originally Posted by nerys
UA means "united association."
What was "united" was pipefitters and service technicians for HVAC.
It's the right place. If you qualify, you can be taken into the apprenticeship program. Last time I checked, they could not find enough young guys to go into the program, probably because of the number of young guys who would rather sit at home and play x box.
Best move you could make, trust me. Say, "I want to apply for the Mechanical Equipment Apprenticeship Training Program."
Scroll down in this link:
http://lu420.org/apprenticeship.asp[Avatar photo from a Florida training accident. Everyone walked away.]
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