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    WHAT SENATOR JOHN GLENN SAID

    Things that make you think a little:

    There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq in January. In the fair city of Detroit there were 35 murders in the month of January. That's just one American city, about as deadly as the entire war-torn country of Iraq.

    When some claim that President Bush shouldn't have started this war, state the following:

    a. FDR led us into World War II.

    b. Germany never attacked us; Japan did From 1941 - 1945, 450,000 lives were lost .. an average of 112,500 per year.

    c. Truman finished that war and started one in Korea.

    North Korea never attacked us.

    From 1950 - 1953, 55,000 lives were lost ... an average of 18,334 per year.

    d. John F. Kennedy started the Vietnam conflict in 1962.

    Vietnam never attacked us.

    e. Johnson turned Vietnam into a quagmire. From 1965 - 1975, 58,000 lives were lost an average of 5,800 per year.

    f. Clinton went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent.

    Bosnia never attacked us.

    He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions.

    g. In the years since terrorists attacked us, President Bush has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran, and North Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people.

    The Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking.

    But.

    It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51-day operation.

    We've been looking for evidence for chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records.

    It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Ted Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick.

    It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the votes in Florida!!!!

    Our Commander-In-Chief is doing a Great Job!

    The Military Morale is high!

    The biased media hopes we are too ignorant to realize the facts.

    But Wait there's more!!!

    JOHN GLENN (ON THE SENATE FLOOR)

    Mon, 26 January 2004 11:13

    Some people still don't understand why military personnel do what they do for a living. This exchange between Senators John Glenn and Senator Howard Metzenbaum is worth reading. Not only is it a pretty impressive impromptu speech, but it's also a good example of one man's explanation of why men and women in the armed services do what they do for a living.

    This IS a typical, though sad, example of what some who have never served think of the military.

    Senator Metzenbaum (speaking to Senator Glenn):

    "How can you run for Senate when you've never held a real job?"

    Senator Glenn (D-Ohio):

    "I served 23 years in the United States Marine Corps.

    I served through two wars. I flew 149 missions.

    My plane was hit by anti-aircraft fire on 12 different occasions.

    I was in the space program. It wasn't my checkbook, Howard; it was my life on the line It was not a nine-to-five job, where I took time off to take the daily cash receipts to the bank."

    "I ask you to go with me... as I went the other day... to a veteran's hospital and look those men with their mangled bodies... in the eye, and tell THEM they didn't hold a job!

    You go with me to the Space Program at NASA and go, as I have gone, to the widows and Orphans of Ed White, Gus Grissom, and Roger Chaffee.. and you look those kids in the eye and tell them that their DADS didn't hold a job.

    You go with me on Memorial Day and you stand in Arlington National Cemetery, where I have more friends buried than I'd like to remember, and you watch

    You stand there, and you think about this nation, and you tell ME that those people didn't have a job?

    What about you?

    For those who don't remember...

    During W.W.II, Howard Mezenbaum was an attorney representing the Communist Party in the USA.

    Now he's a Senator!

    If you can read this, thank a teacher.

    If you are reading it in English, thank a Veteran.

    It might not be a bad idea to keep this circulating


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    Snopes.
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    Originally posted by senior tech


    If you are reading it in English, thank a Veteran.



    Why?


    I learned how to read and speak English because of a public school in Copenhagen, Denmark....

    I dont see how a veteran made this possible for me...'



    (BTW I am a "Veteran", so save that crap for some other time...)

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    Originally posted by oloenneker
    Originally posted by senior tech


    If you are reading it in English, thank a Veteran.



    Why?


    I learned how to read and speak English because of a public school in Copenhagen, Denmark....

    I dont see how a veteran made this possible for me...'



    (BTW I am a "Veteran", so save that crap for some other time...)
    That's because you are an ingrate.
    No reserve. No retreat. No regrets.

    For those who have fought for it, freedom has a sweetness the protected will never know.

    http://www.airwarvietnam.com/16thSOSGunners2.jpg

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    Originally posted by oloenneker
    Originally posted by senior tech


    If you are reading it in English, thank a Veteran.



    Why?


    I learned how to read and speak English because of a public school in Copenhagen, Denmark....

    I dont see how a veteran made this possible for me...'



    (BTW I am a "Veteran", so save that crap for some other time...)
    Some things are just not up for debate...and this is one of them...so accepted or not, if you are truly a vet, Thank You.

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    Originally posted by geerair
    Snopes.
    Yeah. Snopes.
    No reserve. No retreat. No regrets.

    For those who have fought for it, freedom has a sweetness the protected will never know.

    http://www.airwarvietnam.com/16thSOSGunners2.jpg

    Proud member of KA Club

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    Yes. Snopes.
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    Originally posted by geerair
    Yes. Snopes.
    OK...from Snopes;
    Claim: Senate candidate John Glenn delivered a stinging rebuke to a challenger who accused him of never having held a job.

    Status: True.
    And still, geer is just full of crap and too lazy or stupid to post a link to what he "thinks" is going on but is usually wrong about.
    Government is a disease...
    ...masquerading as its own cure…
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    Maybe geer meant to post "urban legends"....so, a quote from Urban Legends;
    John Glenn vs. Howard Metzenbaum

    Netlore Archive: Responding to a remark allegedly made by opponent Howard Metzenbaum to the effect that he had 'never held a job,' Ohio Senatorial candidate John Glenn lashes back by citing 23 years service to his country in the Marine Corps

    Description: Email Flier
    Circulating since: June 2001
    Status: Mostly true

    So far I have found nothing for or against the first part of that post. Maybe geer can insinuate something for us.
    Government is a disease...
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    Originally posted by RoBoTeq
    So far I have found nothing for or against the first part of that post. Maybe geer can insinuate something for us.
    The first part was not written by Glenn as the e-mail implies. Perhaps you read the snopes article too fast to catch that.

    Also the first part has been posted before and contains numerous historical mistakes. I destroyed the first part when it was first posted here some time ago.

    Apparently critical thinking is in short supply in ARP. You boys eat these bogus e-mails like they were candy.

    [Edited by geerair on 02-13-2006 at 12:59 PM]
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    Originally posted by oloenneker
    Originally posted by senior tech


    If you are reading it in English, thank a Veteran.



    Why?


    I learned how to read and speak English because of a public school in Copenhagen, Denmark....

    I dont see how a veteran made this possible for me...'



    (BTW I am a "Veteran", so save that crap for some other time...)
    if it wasnt for american veterans, you would have learned deutsch instead of english.


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    royc

    Very well said. Maybe even Russian.

    It takes just a generation for history to start becoming a blur.

    Best regards...

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    And still, geer posts denials with absolutely nothing to support his rantings.
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