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    RUUD rooftop gas pack

    A couple of weeks ago, I had a call from a commercial customer, who stated that one of their package rooftop heaters "made the store smell like gas when it ran".

    It's about a 15-year-old Ruud. It has a forced draft blower, as opposed to an induced draft blower. A really dumb design. You can't troubleshoot the thing correctly, because when you take the cover off to get to the gas valve, ignition module, and burners, you expose the draft inducer and lose your forced draft.

    Anyway, after a bit of poking around, I concluded that the hx was bad. This unit is a rotted out sack, to say the least.

    I told them what I found, and quoted a replacement. several days later, I called to see what they wanted to do.....they said that somebody had already fixed it.....oh, really?

    I stopped today for a peek.....couldn't believe what I found. Somebody had plated over most of the side vent outlets, and had installed an induced draft blower over the remaining outlet louvers....then they took a piece of 12" metal duct, and fabricated a "shroud" to protect the draft inducer.

    Yikes !! I'll get and post pics later this week.....

    I'm guessing, that they found what I found. So, they converted it to induced draft instead of forced draft to "get by".
    Technical incompetence is NOT a sales tool....

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    well p ost some picts and maybe call the local inspector or there building insurnace company and see what t hey would have to say.. Sounds to me like a accident waiting to happen
    If you can not do it right, Why even do it at all?

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    Pics as promised. Not the cute little "fabricated" deflector on the IDB outlet....
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    Technical incompetence is NOT a sales tool....

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    Holy sh!t!
    Nemo me impune lacessit.

    How much blood do I have to bathe in to get clean?

    Don't look down on anyone unless you're helping them up.

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    That is not only kind iginuitive, But Highly dangerous and all around just dumb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garya505 View Post
    Ah, sorry I thought that's what he meant. An inch shouldn't make that much difference (at least that's what I always tell my wife).

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    How can anyone see this even as a temporary fix?

    'Round these parts you would find yourself in jail for doing stuff like that.

    Wonder how some folks work like this and sleep at night
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    Confused

    WTF!!!
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    WOW!

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    Someone would have to die in Philly, and then maybe the perp would get a fine.

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    Dragged down the streets, thrown into a horse dung filled open air cage cart, spit on, hot oil bathed, hung, drawn and quatered, mouth stuff with a rag so no one here's him yell "Freedom"!!!!!!!

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    Wow
    Yea that fixed the crack in the HX
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Markl View Post
    Pics as promised. Not the cute little "fabricated" deflector on the IDB outlet....
    You know, some of these pictures could fall out of someone's pocket at the fire marshall's office...
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